More of an Original TMNT fan or a Next Gen TMNT fan?

Ryzar · 03-30-2006, 11:27 PM

I was just wondering out of the general population here how many of you are more of a fan of the TMNT cartoons of the late 80s early 90s - The "Original" TMNT? Or are you more of a fan of these new TMNT cartoons "The Next Mutation"? And why?

Personally, I've not seen but a few minutes of the new Ninja Turtles cartoons. They just don't interest me as much as they did before. Obviously, I am older than I was back when I was watching the originals. But I have some original TMNT eps that I can watch these days and I find I still enjoy watching the Old School cartoons, for the most part.

So what about yourselves?

*Hannah* · 03-30-2006, 11:51 PM

Uh, the new series is not The Next Mutation. TNM was a crappy live-action thing that... didnt last very long. Because it sucked.

Ryzar · 03-31-2006, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ç®À¥ÞÅ±Öµå

Uh, the new series is not The Next Mutation. TNM was a crappy live-action thing that... didnt last very long. Because it sucked.

well... shows how much I know about the current generation of TMNT. :p

I guess, If a Mod can change that "Next Mutation" to "Next Generation" It would be good.

otherwise, I guess this is a useless poll.

**GK Punk** · 03-31-2006, 02:31 AM

I changed the poll to say 2K3 series.

And I voted original. I like the new one just fine, but the old one is why I am here.

bloodbath666 · 03-31-2006, 02:37 AM

I say both. I love the new series alot. I think if the new series and the old one both premired together and it was the first time I'd seen any of them, I'd be wayyyyyyyy more into the new series. The old one tho brings back great memories. I remember being in the toy store looking for tmnt when I was a kid, and I remember my buddies and me would play with tmnt action figures all the time. I miss that time alot and anytime I see the old series it brings a smile to my face, I still love it, the cheesyness the, humor...............The new series I love the art and production of it, and I love the story lines of the new one better than the old one, but I'll always have a place in my heart for the old one.

03-31-2006, 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by alice.ever.falling.

TNM was a crappy live-action thing that... didnt last very long. Because it sucked.

Amen to that. It's too bad it tarnished the TMNT in general.
Ninja Turtles: TNM is like a priest who commits sexual acts with children. It makes the religion in question look REALLY bad.

Oh, and I like both the original and new series equally for two reasons...

The original series for humour and nostalgia.

The new series for action and adventure.

onyx · 03-31-2006, 02:51 AM

I like the 2K3 series better.

I've grown up with the old series and I did enjoy them very much (and still do), but, putting aside memories and nostalgy, the new show wins hands down. The action scenes are great, it's dark and creepy, it's more violent and it's more realisitic (as realistic as a mutant turtle show can be).

*ZariusTwo* · 03-31-2006, 09:41 AM

Oh for the love of...don't start this "old vs new" preference crap, this only leads to trouble, certain people tend to start thrashing the original in favour of the great-but-inferior new version without realising what this site's called and that the two cannot be compared and can be easily appreciated both at the same time.

I dont' watch the old show, like some do, for "memories", I still watch it because it actually IS better, objectivly, than the new one. Its' funnier, it's more original, and it's got it's own way of doing things. It's FUN, the new TMNT is solid and the best animated series in the medium presently, but it's jokes are terrible and the designs are grossly off-putting at times (which instantaniously owns anyone about to see the original had bad animation, the new one can be just as guilty, if not worse at times). Plus I can lighten up, as others can, and don't see why every new version of a classic HAS to be dark and forboding, I think we need a break from that before it gets dull, then bring it back. Thats's why you don't see that many dark shows in animation lately.

Mobius One · 03-31-2006, 11:19 AM

I disagree, Zarius. I respect your opinion, though. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE the old series. Like Kittie February6 said, if it wasn't for the old series, we woulnd't be here. It's just that the new series (to me) just has more intelligent storylines than the old show ended up having. Although the first season of the old show is still truthfully my favorite over everything. Other than that, though, everytime I watch the old episode DVD's, I feel that it gets old pretty quick, and I have to watch them a couple episodes at a time. The new ones just have more (if just a little bit) adult stories, and they are not wrapped up in one episode (at least the really good stories aren't).

I definitly see what you mean about how every series nowadays has to be "dark and forboding", but with the new TMNT show, it suits it very well. This is how a Ninja Turtles television show is supposed to be. Well its close enough. I guess if you wanted to make a show that was extremely accurate in tone to the original comics, it would have to be aired on Adult Swim or something, because it would have to be a little gory.

So yeah. Zarius, I know you like the old show better, and I am not attacking you for it by any means, I just that to me, the new show is more watchable.

*ZariusTwo* · 03-31-2006, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DemoGoblin87

I disagree, Zarius. I respect your opinion, though. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE the old series. Like Kittie February6 said, if it wasn't for the old series, we woulnd't be here. It's just that the new series (to me) just has more intelligent storylines than the old show ended up having.

I think it depends really, the worst episodes of the original are saved by the one liners and relationships the show's characters have. Its' Fraiser basiclly when it's not the Turtles against Shredder and Krang, and sometimes it is when they are. There's no doubt the first three years (that's as close as people get to loving it for the most part) are the best of the show followed by the last few, in terms of darker storytelling and a general arc, but the comedy makes what should'nt be watchable endurable

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I definitly see what you mean about how every series nowadays has to be "dark and forboding", but with the new TMNT show, it suits it very well. This is how a Ninja Turtles television show is supposed to be.

I'm not disputing that, of course it's what the Turtles should be, just needs a little improving here and there to get where it needs to be in smaller areas, there are parts that should work, but just...don't.

Jo269976 · 03-31-2006, 12:41 PM

I first became a TMNT fan because of the 2K3 Series, when i was little my bro loved it and i hated it, but after seeing the new TMNT i gave the olds ones a chance and it payed off, now i like it and my bro doesen't

manny · 04-01-2006, 10:17 AM

i like the originals better, even though the new r appealing at times

Ringman · 04-01-2006, 11:17 AM

I'm in a mixed bag here. I like the characters like Rocksteady and Bebop and Krang, but I like the serious tone of the newer shows. (I don't like how they make Mikey a total fool in the new series though, he was hipper in the original.) I guess I want something that was like the TMNT movies, or a mix between the Mirage and Archie comics. I like all the series, but none have really ever hit exactly what I was looking for. The Archie comics came DAMN close though.

Weird Pizza · 04-01-2006, 11:25 AM

The original

blue_angel99 · 04-01-2006, 11:47 AM

I love both. I enjoyed the old toons cause it was fun for kids to watch. All the jokes still make me laugh. The classic toon is what made the TMNT a pop icon for generations to come. As an adult, I enjoy the new TMNT because its less goofy; I now like the serious stories and graphic action, something the old toon lacks. Plus I love how they show the turtles true character.

*Hannah* · 04-02-2006, 03:25 PM

It's funny how it didn't cause any trouble like Zarius thought until he got here. =D

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Ninja Turtles: TNM is like a priest who commits sexual acts with children. It makes the religion in question look REALLY bad.

XDDDD Hahaha

**Jester** · 04-02-2006, 04:27 PM

Fan-o-both...nuff said. :p (Actually I've said it all before, and don't feel like posting it all again...)

*Sage Ninja* · 04-03-2006, 12:11 PM

I love them both but for the hell of it I voted for the original toon. I liked how fresh it was (at the time) and the story lines. Unlike allot of people I liked the most of the plot lines, even those after season three. For me the series offered something each season that I enjoyed. I the only season I didn't much care for was season five (with the exception of a few episodes).

I liked how the old cartoon wasn't dependent on being an action series and could actually have episodes that focused on the turtles just sitting around doing being themselves (like an a-day-in-the -life scenirio) instead of just ninjas. I think to an extent the show focused quite a bit on the characters and how they interacted with each other, sometimes with the action being the subplot, Like the episode "Donatello's Degree", where the episdoes primary focus was Donatello trying to get his degree and the obstackles in his path to get it. I thought this was a good episdoe because it focused more on Donatello (and Irma) rather than the action aspect; allot of episdes after season four where like this, and I enjoyed them.

By having it that way it freed up allot of constraints on the show, so that it could be more relaxed, because you weren't expecting them to always be in a life or death situation. I don't think the new toon could get away with this because the audinace is always expecting the turtles to doing something that "advances the story" or "doing something action packed", to the point that when the turtles do, do something sedate and mundane their "wasting time" or fans are bitching and moaning about the show airing a "filler" episode, Its like the turtles aren't allowed to have side adventures, unless it some how advance the theme or plot that is occureing that season.

The few episodes that these elements for me in the new toon are, "The unconvinceing turtle titan (I thought this gave a good look into Michaelangelo's personality) and the episode where Raphael spent some time with that blind elderly lady. I loved his interaction with the blind lady! In fact all the episdoes that where "stand alone" or so-called "filler" episodes where rather nice.

However I will say that the new toon offers more serious grippomg plots and situations that I wish that had been offered in the orginal toon. I like the new toon just as much as the original one.

*Duke* · 04-03-2006, 02:29 PM

I'm a huge fan of both but I still vote Old School because voting both just seems like a cheap out to me.

JackieChan · 04-03-2006, 04:20 PM

While I do like both versions of TMNT, I prefer the 2003 series. The storylines are great, it's dark, it's more violent, and the action is awesome. I do like the 1987 series because it was funny and more original, but to me, the 2003 series wins hands down. Though, I don't know how this new "Fast Forward" concept will turn out to be, but I'll give it a shot when it launches this fall.

View Poll Results: Which TMNT Cartoon Version are you more of a fan of?
The Original Series	16	30.77%
The 2K3 Series	15	28.85%
Both.	21	40.38%
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03-30-2006, 11:27 PM	#1
Ryzar Random Punk Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 31	More of an Original TMNT fan or a Next Gen TMNT fan? I was just wondering out of the general population here how many of you are more of a fan of the TMNT cartoons of the late 80s early 90s - The "Original" TMNT? Or are you more of a fan of these new TMNT cartoons "The Next Mutation"? And why? Personally, I've not seen but a few minutes of the new Ninja Turtles cartoons. They just don't interest me as much as they did before. Obviously, I am older than I was back when I was watching the originals. But I have some original TMNT eps that I can watch these days and I find I still enjoy watching the Old School cartoons, for the most part. So what about yourselves?

03-31-2006, 02:51 AM	#7
onyx Foot Soldier Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 232	I like the 2K3 series better. I've grown up with the old series and I did enjoy them very much (and still do), but, putting aside memories and nostalgy, the new show wins hands down. The action scenes are great, it's dark and creepy, it's more violent and it's more realisitic (as realistic as a mutant turtle show can be). __________________

03-31-2006, 09:41 AM	#8
ZariusTwo Overlord Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Britain, DINO THUNDER...POWER UP! Posts: 22,487	Oh for the love of...don't start this "old vs new" preference crap, this only leads to trouble, certain people tend to start thrashing the original in favour of the great-but-inferior new version without realising what this site's called and that the two cannot be compared and can be easily appreciated both at the same time. I dont' watch the old show, like some do, for "memories", I still watch it because it actually IS better, objectivly, than the new one. Its' funnier, it's more original, and it's got it's own way of doing things. It's FUN, the new TMNT is solid and the best animated series in the medium presently, but it's jokes are terrible and the designs are grossly off-putting at times (which instantaniously owns anyone about to see the original had bad animation, the new one can be just as guilty, if not worse at times). Plus I can lighten up, as others can, and don't see why every new version of a classic HAS to be dark and forboding, I think we need a break from that before it gets dull, then bring it back. Thats's why you don't see that many dark shows in animation lately. __________________ Spider-Man: The Rescue Spider-Man: The Galloping Cat Spider-Man: Scarlet Mirror Doctor Who: Child of the Daleks Last edited by ZariusTwo; 03-31-2006 at 10:01 AM.

03-31-2006, 11:19 AM	#9
Mobius One Hench Mutant Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: US Posts: 411	I disagree, Zarius. I respect your opinion, though. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE the old series. Like Kittie February6 said, if it wasn't for the old series, we woulnd't be here. It's just that the new series (to me) just has more intelligent storylines than the old show ended up having. Although the first season of the old show is still truthfully my favorite over everything. Other than that, though, everytime I watch the old episode DVD's, I feel that it gets old pretty quick, and I have to watch them a couple episodes at a time. The new ones just have more (if just a little bit) adult stories, and they are not wrapped up in one episode (at least the really good stories aren't). I definitly see what you mean about how every series nowadays has to be "dark and forboding", but with the new TMNT show, it suits it very well. This is how a Ninja Turtles television show is supposed to be. Well its close enough. I guess if you wanted to make a show that was extremely accurate in tone to the original comics, it would have to be aired on Adult Swim or something, because it would have to be a little gory. So yeah. Zarius, I know you like the old show better, and I am not attacking you for it by any means, I just that to me, the new show is more watchable. __________________ You can kill the Revolutionaries, But you can't kill the Revolution! www.worldskater224.deviantart.com -visit it! Formerly Demogoblin87...

03-30-2006, 11:51 PM	#2
Hannah Once more, with feeling! Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 4,111	Uh, the new series is not The Next Mutation. TNM was a crappy live-action thing that... didnt last very long. Because it sucked.

03-31-2006, 02:31 AM	#4
GK Punk I'm your Devil Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,439	I changed the poll to say 2K3 series. And I voted original. I like the new one just fine, but the old one is why I am here.

03-31-2006, 02:37 AM	#5
bloodbath666 Random Punk Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 24	I say both. I love the new series alot. I think if the new series and the old one both premired together and it was the first time I'd seen any of them, I'd be wayyyyyyyy more into the new series. The old one tho brings back great memories. I remember being in the toy store looking for tmnt when I was a kid, and I remember my buddies and me would play with tmnt action figures all the time. I miss that time alot and anytime I see the old series it brings a smile to my face, I still love it, the cheesyness the, humor...............The new series I love the art and production of it, and I love the story lines of the new one better than the old one, but I'll always have a place in my heart for the old one.

03-31-2006, 12:41 PM	#11
Jo269976 Stone Warrior Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Arkham Asylum Posts: 592	I first became a TMNT fan because of the 2K3 Series, when i was little my bro loved it and i hated it, but after seeing the new TMNT i gave the olds ones a chance and it payed off, now i like it and my bro doesen't __________________

04-01-2006, 10:17 AM	#12
manny Thug Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 94	i like the originals better, even though the new r appealing at times

04-01-2006, 11:17 AM	#13
Ringman New Recruit Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 3	I'm in a mixed bag here. I like the characters like Rocksteady and Bebop and Krang, but I like the serious tone of the newer shows. (I don't like how they make Mikey a total fool in the new series though, he was hipper in the original.) I guess I want something that was like the TMNT movies, or a mix between the Mirage and Archie comics. I like all the series, but none have really ever hit exactly what I was looking for. The Archie comics came DAMN close though.

04-01-2006, 11:25 AM	#14
Weird Pizza Thug Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 61	The original

04-01-2006, 11:47 AM	#15
blue_angel99 Hench Mutant Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 382	I love both. I enjoyed the old toons cause it was fun for kids to watch. All the jokes still make me laugh. The classic toon is what made the TMNT a pop icon for generations to come. As an adult, I enjoy the new TMNT because its less goofy; I now like the serious stories and graphic action, something the old toon lacks. Plus I love how they show the turtles true character. __________________

04-02-2006, 04:27 PM	#17
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,300	Fan-o-both...nuff said. :p (Actually I've said it all before, and don't feel like posting it all again...) __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

04-03-2006, 12:11 PM	#18
Sage Ninja Band of the Hawk Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: USA Posts: 3,926	I love them both but for the hell of it I voted for the original toon. I liked how fresh it was (at the time) and the story lines. Unlike allot of people I liked the most of the plot lines, even those after season three. For me the series offered something each season that I enjoyed. I the only season I didn't much care for was season five (with the exception of a few episodes). I liked how the old cartoon wasn't dependent on being an action series and could actually have episodes that focused on the turtles just sitting around doing being themselves (like an a-day-in-the -life scenirio) instead of just ninjas. I think to an extent the show focused quite a bit on the characters and how they interacted with each other, sometimes with the action being the subplot, Like the episode "Donatello's Degree", where the episdoes primary focus was Donatello trying to get his degree and the obstackles in his path to get it. I thought this was a good episdoe because it focused more on Donatello (and Irma) rather than the action aspect; allot of episdes after season four where like this, and I enjoyed them. By having it that way it freed up allot of constraints on the show, so that it could be more relaxed, because you weren't expecting them to always be in a life or death situation. I don't think the new toon could get away with this because the audinace is always expecting the turtles to doing something that "advances the story" or "doing something action packed", to the point that when the turtles do, do something sedate and mundane their "wasting time" or fans are bitching and moaning about the show airing a "filler" episode, Its like the turtles aren't allowed to have side adventures, unless it some how advance the theme or plot that is occureing that season. The few episodes that these elements for me in the new toon are, "The unconvinceing turtle titan (I thought this gave a good look into Michaelangelo's personality) and the episode where Raphael spent some time with that blind elderly lady. I loved his interaction with the blind lady! In fact all the episdoes that where "stand alone" or so-called "filler" episodes where rather nice. However I will say that the new toon offers more serious grippomg plots and situations that I wish that had been offered in the orginal toon. I like the new toon just as much as the original one. __________________ Cassandra: You won't fight me, but will you fight--for him! Cassandra's Revenge ~Tangled the Series ________________________________ http://frankviola.org/2012/01/30/godsviewofawoman/ _______________________________ http://nox-artemis.tumblr.com/post/4...k-and-feminism

04-03-2006, 02:29 PM	#19
Duke Mad Scientist Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,913	I'm a huge fan of both but I still vote Old School because voting both just seems like a cheap out to me.

04-03-2006, 04:20 PM	#20
JackieChan Mouser Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Miami, Florida Posts: 11	While I do like both versions of TMNT, I prefer the 2003 series. The storylines are great, it's dark, it's more violent, and the action is awesome. I do like the 1987 series because it was funny and more original, but to me, the 2003 series wins hands down. Though, I don't know how this new "Fast Forward" concept will turn out to be, but I'll give it a shot when it launches this fall.