Metal Gear Solid Will Officially Be A Movie - Page 3

*Dr. Doom* · 05-25-2006, 08:21 PM

Why won't you just go away?

Peanut · 05-25-2006, 08:30 PM

Because I love to ruin lives!

*Dr. Doom* · 05-25-2006, 09:06 PM

It's bad enough to have you blaspheeming in one thread, but you're doing it in like 3 or 4 simultaniously.

Peanut · 05-25-2006, 10:01 PM

I do believe we're up to 2. It could be 3, though.

I've had my fun. I'll leave you to weep now.

**Barkworm** · 05-26-2006, 04:58 AM

Doom, let's just wait for the next Halo thread and flame it!!!!!111

Peanut · 05-26-2006, 02:26 PM

Please do. I'm not a Halo fanboy anyways.

*Raven* · 05-26-2006, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Peanut

No you don't. Dude, I don't even like Splinter Cell, and I can admit that the options and gameplay totally blow MGS straight out of the water. Go ahead and name one thing MGS does better than Splinter Cell in the stealth department. Besides the fact that Sam Fisher has dozens more moves than Snake, stealth actually makes sense in Splinter Cell.

Ever seen that MGS speed run where the dude just runs around the view cones of the enemies? That just shouldn't be allowed to happen in a stealth game.

Take the story out of MGS and, much like the FF series, you have a mediocre game. Take the story out of Splinter Cell and you still have a good game. Just look at the things MGS fans freak out about. A 15 minute MOVIE that shows no gameplay at all! That says something all by itself.

As far as Splinter Cell running on gimmicks...well you'll need to come up with a much better excuse to try and shame that game.

I was just basing it all off on opinion. I just cant stand Splinter cell, sure they do some things right and MGS does some things that I dont care for but over all I have alot more fun with MGS then splinter cell.

**Barkworm** · 05-26-2006, 04:35 PM

Presentation and gameplay are almost equally important to me. Even the best gameplay can be ruined by a lousy story or atrocious voice acting. I simply think MGS is the overall better package. While the gameplay is not quite as good as Splinter Cell's, MGS's presentation is on a completely different level.

Peanut · 05-26-2006, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Barkworm

Presentation and gameplay are almost equally important to me. Even the best gameplay can be ruined by a lousy story or atrocious voice acting. I simply think MGS is the overall better package. While the gameplay is not quite as good as Splinter Cell's, MGS's presentation is on a completely different level.

There's no doubt about that. Splinter Cell doesn't even come close to matching MGS on the presentation level. I guess I'm just a completely old school gamer. I care very little for story, and care everything about gameplay.

**Barkworm** · 05-27-2006, 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Peanut

I care very little for story, and care everything about gameplay.

So you like "Warrior Within" better than "Sands of Time"?

But yeah, I see where you're coming from.

*Brodie* · 05-27-2006, 02:32 AM

Splinter Cell is a better game, gameplay wise, has a copmplex almost realistic story (thanks Clancy).
But MGS has the character. Sure Fisher is cool, and looks like a total badass, but Solid Snake, the ORIGINAL Solid Snake, the only one that counts, mind you. is so memorable. Even the sounds the game makes when you get spotted, and those almost anime-esque exclamation points are memorable. It all deals with character. I dont think that'll play off in a movie, but Snake, as a character would.
But maybe not as well as Fisher, for realistic sense.

redsai4lex · 05-30-2006, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by InsaneZane

What he is referring to is the fact that Metal Gear Solid 2 had so much potential in the storyline, and Hideo Kojima ruined it by changing the main playable character... not only did he try to solve a problem where there wasn't one by making the main character a younger pretty-boy type just to please a bunch of people who wern't true fans in the first place (the people who complained about the main character in a video game being too old...which is true... Kojima admitted it himself.) but also, the way he directed a bunch of cut-scenes in "Sons of Liberty" and "Snake Eater" are not only corny, but dosn't make sense at all... as far as keeping realism in mind. (referring to stuff like: the scar on the boss slithering away, which is supposed to be symbolic, but still...thats pretty stupid...and etcetera...there are plenty of examples like this one at my disposal) Not to mention he kept the whole thing a complete secret during development by not releasing any screen shots of Raiden AND don't forget he's nowhere to be seen on the box-art even though hes the main player through the majority of the game...It was almost like Hideo Kojima was TRYING to disappoint the "true" fans.

And to RedXander...
There are plenty of people who could do well as Solid Snake other than Hugh Jackman... it's just that he is relativly perfect for the role... being that the first time Solid Snake ever had "real" facial features was in "Sons of Liberty" where he stangly resembled Hugh Jackman after David Hayter (vo-Solid Snake) did the screenplay for "X-Men: The Movie" ...so thats a little more than just a coincedence., plus he's not a bad actor...and his voice for Wolverine is definatly acceptable as Solid Snake.

Yes, I forgot to mention all that....

I should've guessed my bro would be able to
back me up really good, because he knows
what I'm talking about...

Like Zane said, there are plenty of examples of bad ideas
that came straight from Kojima, and all those examples are
more than enough reasons to keep kojima out of the movie...

whether anyone likes it or not, I am one of the BIGGEST
Metal Gear fans there will ever be...
I always have great hopes in every metal gear story...
they ALL had great potential...

Just because Kojima created something that GOOD....
DOES NOT MEAN hes doing a good job keeping it alive...
cuz HES NOT!!!
(I take it very personally when anyone trys to defend Kojima's ****** @$$)
Like I said,...
I thank him for creating it...
I DESPISE him for RUINING it....

*Raven* · 05-30-2006, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by RedXander

Yes, I forgot to mention all that....

I should've guessed my bro would be able to
back me up really good, because he knows
what I'm talking about...

Like Zane said, there are plenty of examples of bad ideas
that came straight from Kojima, and all those examples are
more than enough reasons to keep kojima out of the movie...

whether anyone likes it or not, I am one of the BIGGEST
Metal Gear fans there will ever be...
I always have great hopes in every metal gear story...
they ALL had great potential...

Just because Kojima created something that GOOD....
DOES NOT MEAN hes doing a good job keeping it alive...
cuz HES NOT!!!
(I take it very personally when anyone trys to defend Kojima's ****** @$$)
Like I said,...
I thank him for creating it...
I DESPISE him for RUINING it....

....

right he's really screwing Metal Gear up, thats why after MGS2 came out every game has had some sort of stealth aspect in it
thats why there have been multiple new stealth games that have come out because of it (-splinter cell)
Thats why Metal Gear has such a huge fan base, thats why when ever a new trailer comes out people discuss what the next games story will be for years until its release, lets not forget all the great stuff Kojima has done, such as the interesting boss fights (-when fighting Mantis you have to change the control from port 1 to port 2)

I'm really having a hard time believing that he's doing as what you say a bad time keeping MGS alive, in fact by what I've seen its the opposite.
(maybe you havent heard but when Kojima told every one that he wasent going to work on MGS4 people sent him death threats and telling him he should work on it, so you must be the only person out there that feels Kojima is ruining MG)

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(I take it very personally when anyone trys to defend Kojima's ****** @$$)

You have no idea how retarded that sounded....

Peanut · 05-30-2006, 12:26 PM

MGS is a stealth game?

*Dr. Doom* · 05-30-2006, 01:16 PM

-=Kicks Peanut down a flight of stairs=-

Raiden was put there as a character in a story that was being told. If you can't see that, you're just too sore in the butt over Snake not being playable for the whole game. Believe me, I was dissapointed too, but I realized why Raiden was there and I appreciate it as a part of the storyarc. He's not even a bad character at all, everyone seems to hate him for the wrong reason.

*Mecha Cow* · 05-30-2006, 01:20 PM

I must be the only person in the world who didn't hate Raiden.

Hell, I'd go as far as saying he made a more interesting lead character than Snake.

**Barkworm** · 05-30-2006, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by RedXander

(I take it very personally when anyone trys to defend Kojima's ****** @$$)

How old are you? Five? Don't post crap like that again.

*Dr. Doom* · 05-30-2006, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Stupid person

(I take it very personally when anyone trys to defend Kojima's ****** @$$)

To say that while claiming to be one of the biggest MGS fans ever is one of, if not the single largest turd I've ever seen coiled up in the form of a post on this message board in 2 and a half years. How can you even take something like thatt personally?

OA · 05-30-2006, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecha Cow

Hell, I'd go as far as saying he made a more interesting lead character than Snake.

I dont know if i'd go that far but i liked Raiden as wsell...

*R-iZZy* · 05-31-2006, 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Doom

-=Kicks Peanut down a flight of stairs=-

Raiden was put there as a character in a story that was being told. If you can't see that, you're just too sore in the butt over Snake not being playable for the whole game. Believe me, I was dissapointed too, but I realized why Raiden was there and I appreciate it as a part of the storyarc. He's not even a bad character at all, everyone seems to hate him for the wrong reason.

I wholeheartedly agree. I mean, they didn't just replace Snake with Raiden because they felt like it, he did go with the story of the game, and it's not like he didn't have a great personal arc, as well. Anyway, I liked Raiden. He was a little different than Snake (with the flips and random-ninjutsu stuff he could pull, which was far from CQC tactics), but he was still an important role in the story, and I don't even think he was misplaced at all.

05-25-2006, 08:21 PM	#41
Dr. Doom Allons-y! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Castle Doom Posts: 4,535	Why won't you just go away? __________________ I love you, Pickle.

05-25-2006, 09:06 PM	#43
Dr. Doom Allons-y! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Castle Doom Posts: 4,535	It's bad enough to have you blaspheeming in one thread, but you're doing it in like 3 or 4 simultaniously. __________________ I love you, Pickle.

05-26-2006, 04:58 AM	#45
Barkworm Draconian leftist ruler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 6,758	Doom, let's just wait for the next Halo thread and flame it!!!!!111 __________________ Make ****, not kill!

05-26-2006, 04:35 PM	#48
Barkworm Draconian leftist ruler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 6,758	Presentation and gameplay are almost equally important to me. Even the best gameplay can be ruined by a lousy story or atrocious voice acting. I simply think MGS is the overall better package. While the gameplay is not quite as good as Splinter Cell's, MGS's presentation is on a completely different level. __________________ Make ****, not kill!

05-27-2006, 02:32 AM	#51
Brodie Certified Teacher Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Bizarro Metropolis Posts: 6,495	Splinter Cell is a better game, gameplay wise, has a copmplex almost realistic story (thanks Clancy). But MGS has the character. Sure Fisher is cool, and looks like a total badass, but Solid Snake, the ORIGINAL Solid Snake, the only one that counts, mind you. is so memorable. Even the sounds the game makes when you get spotted, and those almost anime-esque exclamation points are memorable. It all deals with character. I dont think that'll play off in a movie, but Snake, as a character would. But maybe not as well as Fisher, for realistic sense. __________________ Stupendous Monster

05-25-2006, 08:30 PM	#42
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	Because I love to ruin lives!

05-25-2006, 10:01 PM	#44
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	I do believe we're up to 2. It could be 3, though. I've had my fun. I'll leave you to weep now.

05-26-2006, 02:26 PM	#46
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	Please do. I'm not a Halo fanboy anyways.

05-30-2006, 12:26 PM	#54
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	MGS is a stealth game?

05-30-2006, 01:16 PM	#55
Dr. Doom Allons-y! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Castle Doom Posts: 4,535	-=Kicks Peanut down a flight of stairs=- Raiden was put there as a character in a story that was being told. If you can't see that, you're just too sore in the butt over Snake not being playable for the whole game. Believe me, I was dissapointed too, but I realized why Raiden was there and I appreciate it as a part of the storyarc. He's not even a bad character at all, everyone seems to hate him for the wrong reason. __________________ I love you, Pickle.

05-30-2006, 01:20 PM	#56
Mecha Cow Gorgeous and modest too Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 3,699	I must be the only person in the world who didn't hate Raiden. Hell, I'd go as far as saying he made a more interesting lead character than Snake. __________________