The 10 Most Unmanily Superheroes (A Turtle Makes the List!?)

[zkarlette]

Originally Posted by Spitfire666xXxXx

What's unmanly is comic book nerds who make lists like that.

Indeed ....plus whoever made that article apparently isnt capable of saying anything without bashing it with hate , apparently he needs someone to show him what you can actually do with a nunchuk....

[Sage Ninja]

wow I didn't wake up this moring intending to be a bitch, but damn that artical pressed my bitch button!

where do I even start?

I find it interesting that the list is supposed to be reasons for why a character is unmannly, but there isn't a single example that really goes under the catergory of unmannliness. All the things listed are examples of why the writer thinks Michaelangelo is a screw-up, or an idiot (examples that are obviously just biased opionions that have nothing to back it up). the artical doesn't even come close to giveing a true example of unmasculine behavior on Michaelangelo's part. He didn't even throw in the fact that once or twice Michaelangelo has been made to wear a dress, which would have been at least a valid example of unmannliness--but didn't.

If this artical was on "which characters are the biggest screw-ups in boy cartoons" he might actually have some validilty in his list. But it isn't. So I can only conclude that the writter is just a petty Michaelangelo basher who just wanted to piss on the character for no appreant reason, other than he probably needed another character for his unmannily list.

His paragraph is biased and stupid, especially for the aim of the artical. Now if he had an artical un cartoons most useless charcters for what reason I might take what he says seriuosly.

[Jester]

I agree. But, here's a question among TMNT fans, which is the most and least manly Turtle?

[Sage Ninja]

they are all manly in their own ways. This artical is pretty damn stupid. And he only talks about classic toon Michaelangelo. Who I have to say, in all the incarnations that I have been aquanted with him with; Is far from a screw-up or unmasculine. Classic Michaelangelo was just as involved in battles as the other turtles where, and was reliable in a battle too. There where a few instances where he was intrusted in doing some important things on occassion, instead of just acting a decoy. ANd he was far from being a dumb-ass.

[Buslady]

Which is manly and least manly? that's corny.

they're all manly all in their own ways. Now studly, definantely...they're well built.

[Sage Ninja]

to be completely honest this sort of thing about Michaelangelo being the team screw-up or worst fighter, or most unmanly turtle is pissing me off. Especially since i've been seeing things like this more and more recently on the web.

What the hell! Why is it Michaelangelo is the turtle that is the victim of so much character bashing. Its always, Michaelangelo is the stupid turtle, the worthless one. Seriously where are all these things coming from? Michaelangelo in any medium is far from being the worthless one in the group and I'm tired of seeing so many fans saying stuff like that to put him down. it pisses me off.

If your going to bash him why don't they use character quirks about him that are least true. why is it always : Stupid, Screw-up, and worthless as ways to bash him, when they aren't true!!!

[Drtooth]

Originally Posted by Sage Ninja

to be completely honest this sort of thing about Michaelangelo being the team screw-up or worst fighter, or most unmanly turtle is pissing me off. Especially since i've been seeing things like this more and more recently on the web.

What the hell! Why is it Michaelangelo is the turtle that is the victim of so much character bashing. Its always, Michaelangelo is the stupid turtle, the worthless one. Seriously where are all these things coming from? Michaelangelo in any medium is far from being the worthless one in the group and I'm tired of seeing so many fans saying stuff like that to put him down. it pisses me off.

Mikey screws stuff up, sure, but only a little more than the others. Leo screws up, Raph screws up, Don screws up. Each in their unique ways.

Old toon Mikey was based on the fad of the surfer dude back in the 80's, brought on by things like Fast Times, and Bill and Ted (which post dates the old cartoon, but it emphisizes my point).

Mikey is,has been, and always will be my favorite turtle in all forms...even though Raph keeps gaining. Mikey clowns around, and I feel people are equating goofiness with incompetence. They seem to think he has a "Corporal Capeman" (from Inspector Gadget) level of annoying goof-o-city about him. But even if that were true, I'd rather have a team "screw up" than a character devoid of personality. I always loved characters with wacky personalities, and it explains why I don't like Leo as much as the others (but I still love Leo, don't get me wrong).

And I feel Mikey had more clout with the group tahn Old Raph did. Old Raph did get messy, he did fight, but sometimes seemed too preoccupied with cracking snide remarks. New and Comic Raph could aslo be seen as the screw up for a completely different reason... he's too damn agressive. Maybe he's the most manly one.

But it does seem this article writer has WAAAAAAY too much time on his hands... I'll stop it right there before I get into a totally inappropriate "what's also on his hands" joke.

[Sage Ninja]

you make some good points Drtooth. All the turtles screw-up on occasion (especially in the old toon ) and there where a few times in the old toon where Michaelangelo gets blamed for somethings that wasn't even his fault Times like that always ticked me off. And I think as far as screwing up goes Raphael and Michaelangelo are about even.

Although putting the screw-up portion aside. The thing the kinda irks me about this artical is the notion that the only way to be manly is through violence and physical prowess . I think Michaelangelo is plenty manly in the fact that he always steps to the plate when he has to, and he is honest.

[Drtooth]

Originally Posted by Sage Ninja

Although putting the screw-up portion aside. The thing the kinda irks me about this artical is the notion that the only way to be manly is through violence and physical prowess .

and sports. Don't forget sports. It's all the entire Guys and Gals stereotype that has been around since the dawn of time. You could say wearing a dress is unmanly, but having the balls to wear one is pretty manly in and of itself. It's a real big Philosophical debate, if you think about it.

[Sage Ninja]

yeah I know hate that stupid genderising of certain sports. When will people learn from the ancient Greeks?! .

But seriously I think there is more to be a man than just how physically strong you are or how well you can kill. I think it has to do of how true and comfertable you are with your self and present your self. Michaelangelo comes across to me of some one who is very comfertable in his own masculinity. So much so that he isn't afraid to show when he is upset, and show emotion. He's not afraid to act freaked out if one of his brothers are hurt (movies) or so insecure he wouldn't take a typically girly animal for a pet like klunk the cat (new toon/Mirage) or an exotic bird named Pete (Old toon), or even to explore his creative side by writting or drawing (Mirage/image) which typically has been something as a taboo to most males to engage in/to do. I like how Michaelangelo is secure enough in himself that he doesn't feel threatened by doing these types of things and still manages to to one kick ass warrior.

Heck he's well balanced and thats sexy and its cool he doesn't take himself so seriously that he is a staunch cookie cutter male figure. I think any guy who can pull off wearing a dress to act as decoy for the imporatance of achieving an objective, and still kick ass and use those nunchucks with out acting self conscience is plenty manly; only some one comfertable with himself and his masculinity could do that. Michaelangelo is a modern guy.