Is Master Chief the best Spartan?

~~Toonami Tom~~ · 10-04-2006, 01:11 PM

In the Halo games are the other Spartans equals to Master Chief, or is Master Chief the best and most skilled of his group? It really seems unknown, because the only time you play as other Spartans is multiplayer, and there you are just a Master Chief 'clone' really.

Theres also the possibility that there were or are Spartans better than Master Chief, although I doubt it.

Also, if there are other Spartans alive (from what I hear there are in fact others alive), where the heck are they? Unless they are sick, they should be doing their duty and fighting against the Covenant.

*XERO* · 10-04-2006, 01:34 PM

Unless there's an Edge Master Chief, my guess is yes.

Peanut · 10-04-2006, 02:12 PM

There are in fact quite a few surviving Spartans. All Master Chief's close friends. The first Halo novel, The Fall of Reach, revolves around the creation of the SPARTANs.

Master Chief was 6 years old when he was "kidnapped" by the UNSC by Captain Keyes and Dr. Catherine Halsey. He was one of 75 other children who were taken to a secret facility and trained to be super soilders. At the age of 14 they were put through surgery to give them biological and cybernetic enhancements. They did this so that they were physically able to wear the MJOLNIR armor, which would cripple a normal human being. Out of the 75, only 33 survived to become SPARTANs. Some were lost in training, a lot were lost in surgery, and several were left crippled due to it.

The planet in which all this takes place, Reach, is attacked by the Covenant as they search for the Forerunners and Halo. The SPARTANs, originally made to combat space pirates and smugglers, were now used to fight off the Covenant. After a war was waged on Reach's surface, the Covenant "glass" the planet, which is essentially focus all fire on the planets surface until it's destroyed.

Master Chief, also known as John/SPARTAN-117, is the only one believed to escape. He has an injured SPARTAN with him though, Linda SPARTAN-058. A close friend of his. He puts her in a cryogenic freezing tube, much like the one MC is seen waking up from in the first Halo. tFoR ends right where Halo: Combat Evolved takes off. Leaving you thinking there are no SPARTANs left alive.

Once Halo: CE ends, you're left with the Chief all alone on a ship with no one but Cortana for company. Just moments after this ending, we find out Master Chief picks up a signal from a UNSC Pelican Dropship that's crippled and floating around in orbit. Inside are some UNSC soilders and among them, Sergeant Johnson. Who surived The Flood and their infection due to a disease he has called Boren's syndrome, which is caused by spending too much time in the vicinity of the Covenant plasma used for their grenades and guns. This effectivly made him invulnerable to the Flood.

Anyways, after some chit-chat, Master Chief, stricken with grief thinking he's the last remaning SPARTAN, decides he needs to return to Reach and see if anyone has survived. Upon arriving there, he discovers the signal that all SPARTANs send out when in distress. Following it, he finds 3 remaning SPARTANs, holed up in an underground bunker with Dr. Halsey and Admiral Whitecomb. These are his friends Fred, Will and Kelly. They all decide they need to get to Earth and warn them about the incoming Covenant fleet.

So some stuff goes down, MC discovers that his friends found some kind of Forerunner relic and the Covenant are chasing them for it. While they discuss plans, Dr. Halsey, for some unknown reason, sedates and kidnaps Kelly, heading for an unkown destination.

Whitecomb comes up with a plot to destroy the Covenant fleet heading towards Earth in hopes that it'll buy them enough time to get the warning out. Master Chief and the surviving SPARTANs infliltrate the command center of the Covenant fleet. Inside they get Cortana to set it for self destruct. At the same time, Admiral Whitecomb pilots his ship towards the command center, the entire Covenant fleet chase him, thinking he has the relic. The Covenant command center explodes, taking Whitecomb and the entire fleet down along with it.

Despite all this, the Covenant is far from crippled, as more ships begin to arrive on the scene. The book ends with Master Chief, Sgt. Johnson and the 2 remaning SPARTANs headed towards Earth to give out the warning.

So in summation..yes. There are two SPARTANs, Will and Fred, on Earth during the events of Halo 2. The other two remaning SPARTANs, Kelly and Linda are MIA.

Halo Wars will most likely revolve around the fall of Reach, as that's when there were a bunch of SPARTANs. I expect we'll see some more SPARTANs in Halo 3. At least, I hope we will.

*Anarky* · 10-04-2006, 02:46 PM

Another thing about the Master Chief: Do we ever actually see his face? I mean, I never played the game and I don't think I ever got my hands on an X-Box for longer than ten minutes, but I never got to see his mug.

Also, is it just me or did Bungie watch too much Demolition Man (John Spartan anyone)?

Peanut · 10-04-2006, 03:14 PM

No. We've never seen the Master Chief's face. It's described in the 2nd Halo book; The Flood. He's supposedly as pale as a ghost, because he rarely takes his armor off.

And we don't know MC's last name. Only that his first name is John. The only thing he's ever called besides John and Master Chief is SPARTAN-117.

FireFly · 10-04-2006, 08:08 PM

i'm going to have to go with chruch on this

~~Toonami Tom~~ · 10-05-2006, 02:43 PM

Thanks for all the information on the Spartans and Master Chief, Peanut.

It would be great if these surviving Spartans are involved in Halo 3.

I have had my name here changed to Master Chief, I'm sure it is noticed, lol.

*XERO* · 10-09-2006, 12:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anarky

Also, is it just me or did Bungie watch too much Demolition Man (John Spartan anyone)?

Heh, don't be alarmed if there's a 'Murder/Death/Kill' reference or a villian identified as PHOENIX-187.

10-04-2006, 01:11 PM	#1
~~Toonami Tom~~ Banned Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: USA Posts: 4,939	Is Master Chief the best Spartan? In the Halo games are the other Spartans equals to Master Chief, or is Master Chief the best and most skilled of his group? It really seems unknown, because the only time you play as other Spartans is multiplayer, and there you are just a Master Chief 'clone' really. Theres also the possibility that there were or are Spartans better than Master Chief, although I doubt it. Also, if there are other Spartans alive (from what I hear there are in fact others alive), where the heck are they? Unless they are sick, they should be doing their duty and fighting against the Covenant.

10-04-2006, 01:34 PM	#2
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10-04-2006, 02:46 PM	#4
Anarky Outlaw Hero Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Tannhauser Gate Posts: 4,867	Another thing about the Master Chief: Do we ever actually see his face? I mean, I never played the game and I don't think I ever got my hands on an X-Box for longer than ten minutes, but I never got to see his mug. Also, is it just me or did Bungie watch too much Demolition Man (John Spartan anyone)? __________________ Because it's... I dunno... brutal.

10-04-2006, 08:08 PM	#6
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10-04-2006, 02:12 PM	#3
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	There are in fact quite a few surviving Spartans. All Master Chief's close friends. The first Halo novel, The Fall of Reach, revolves around the creation of the SPARTANs. Master Chief was 6 years old when he was "kidnapped" by the UNSC by Captain Keyes and Dr. Catherine Halsey. He was one of 75 other children who were taken to a secret facility and trained to be super soilders. At the age of 14 they were put through surgery to give them biological and cybernetic enhancements. They did this so that they were physically able to wear the MJOLNIR armor, which would cripple a normal human being. Out of the 75, only 33 survived to become SPARTANs. Some were lost in training, a lot were lost in surgery, and several were left crippled due to it. The planet in which all this takes place, Reach, is attacked by the Covenant as they search for the Forerunners and Halo. The SPARTANs, originally made to combat space pirates and smugglers, were now used to fight off the Covenant. After a war was waged on Reach's surface, the Covenant "glass" the planet, which is essentially focus all fire on the planets surface until it's destroyed. Master Chief, also known as John/SPARTAN-117, is the only one believed to escape. He has an injured SPARTAN with him though, Linda SPARTAN-058. A close friend of his. He puts her in a cryogenic freezing tube, much like the one MC is seen waking up from in the first Halo. tFoR ends right where Halo: Combat Evolved takes off. Leaving you thinking there are no SPARTANs left alive. Once Halo: CE ends, you're left with the Chief all alone on a ship with no one but Cortana for company. Just moments after this ending, we find out Master Chief picks up a signal from a UNSC Pelican Dropship that's crippled and floating around in orbit. Inside are some UNSC soilders and among them, Sergeant Johnson. Who surived The Flood and their infection due to a disease he has called Boren's syndrome, which is caused by spending too much time in the vicinity of the Covenant plasma used for their grenades and guns. This effectivly made him invulnerable to the Flood. Anyways, after some chit-chat, Master Chief, stricken with grief thinking he's the last remaning SPARTAN, decides he needs to return to Reach and see if anyone has survived. Upon arriving there, he discovers the signal that all SPARTANs send out when in distress. Following it, he finds 3 remaning SPARTANs, holed up in an underground bunker with Dr. Halsey and Admiral Whitecomb. These are his friends Fred, Will and Kelly. They all decide they need to get to Earth and warn them about the incoming Covenant fleet. So some stuff goes down, MC discovers that his friends found some kind of Forerunner relic and the Covenant are chasing them for it. While they discuss plans, Dr. Halsey, for some unknown reason, sedates and kidnaps Kelly, heading for an unkown destination. Whitecomb comes up with a plot to destroy the Covenant fleet heading towards Earth in hopes that it'll buy them enough time to get the warning out. Master Chief and the surviving SPARTANs infliltrate the command center of the Covenant fleet. Inside they get Cortana to set it for self destruct. At the same time, Admiral Whitecomb pilots his ship towards the command center, the entire Covenant fleet chase him, thinking he has the relic. The Covenant command center explodes, taking Whitecomb and the entire fleet down along with it. Despite all this, the Covenant is far from crippled, as more ships begin to arrive on the scene. The book ends with Master Chief, Sgt. Johnson and the 2 remaning SPARTANs headed towards Earth to give out the warning. So in summation..yes. There are two SPARTANs, Will and Fred, on Earth during the events of Halo 2. The other two remaning SPARTANs, Kelly and Linda are MIA. Halo Wars will most likely revolve around the fall of Reach, as that's when there were a bunch of SPARTANs. I expect we'll see some more SPARTANs in Halo 3. At least, I hope we will.

10-04-2006, 03:14 PM	#5
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	No. We've never seen the Master Chief's face. It's described in the 2nd Halo book; The Flood. He's supposedly as pale as a ghost, because he rarely takes his armor off. And we don't know MC's last name. Only that his first name is John. The only thing he's ever called besides John and Master Chief is SPARTAN-117.

10-05-2006, 02:43 PM	#7
~~Toonami Tom~~ Banned Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: USA Posts: 4,939	Thanks for all the information on the Spartans and Master Chief, Peanut. It would be great if these surviving Spartans are involved in Halo 3. I have had my name here changed to Master Chief, I'm sure it is noticed, lol.