Something interesting/disturbing...

[Murphy]

Originally Posted by TristJones

One final question regarding the movie (and if it can't be answered that's cool): given the distinctly different nature of the current animated series and the film, have any plans been put in place to spring a new animated (be it 2d or 3d) series out of the film - should it prove to be what I'm sure is a predicted success?

No plans in place... but I'm sure more than one movie-related creator has put this on his or her list to Santa.

Well, back to work for me. Talk to y'all soon.

[gobo]

Three double-posts in a row? You're an anarchist, huh?

[Chris]

Wow I'm away for work for one night and Murphy gives out news galore!

Firstly I'm very glad the movie will have Ninja Vs. Ninja action! TMNT Vs. Foot just as it was in the good old days!

Can't wait to see the new trailer, hopefully it will show up online at the same time it hits the big screen, I've still not seen the teaser at a UK cinema!

I feel like I want to cry about the Lost Season! If it is just a case of wanting the best marketing opportunity I think releasing it in March with the film, or later in the year when the movie hits DVD would probably be the best times to release it.

Originally Posted by Murphy

As far as chronology is concerned, I guess once (or should) the turtles return from the future, then they could theoretically be popped into any non-FF storyline, including the LS....

So you're saying the chronology could (for TV purposes) be shifted to Season 4 - FF - LS? I guess that could work. For continuity purposes say Season 4 ended with Good Genes, then Fast Forward happened, then the TMNT returned to the present and we get "Ninja Tribunal" as the first episode of a 14 episode Season 7 (assuming FF only has 26 episodes/2 seasons). I think I'd still put LS before FF on my DVD shelf, but for TV that could work really well.

Or, since FF will be over in 3 weeks, maybe they could air LS early next year around the launch of the movie? That would be a good promotional tie-in for 4Kids to help boost ratings! And they could release the DVD later in the year alongside the movie DVD as well.

Interesting as well that FF has been split into 2 seasons of 13 episodes rather than 1 season of 26 episodes. First time I'd heard about that! Does that mean we're going to get a cliff hanger in 3 weeks? Hard to believe the season is nearly over with already!

As for your universes question, personally I'd put all 4 movies into 1 universe as, whilst only certain points from 2 (and nothing from 3) will be properly acknowledged in the new film, nothing will be contradicted and there will be minor references to them. Of course if there are contradictions in the new film then there will be 2 seperate universes.

[Jo Dawn]

Hi, Murphy. Just want to greet you, and saw how completely nice it is of you to come and talk to us. Welcome!

2. Is this more of a Leo-centered story, or will each turtle have there moments of glory/to shine (i'm a big Raph fan so i had to ask lol)?

Originally Posted by Murphy

2. Hmm. I think one can safely say that both Leo and Raph get equal air-time.

So, does this mean that it's going to be like the first movie and have Don as a completely minor, back character? I certainly hope that this is not the case. Why is there no love for fans of the other two? (Don's my favorite for going on, oh, 20 years now... Leo's in second). Anyhow, I certainly hope there is equal amounts for all, and not have a Leo or Raph story. We've done that with two of the movies already.

Originally Posted by Murphy
Very sorry to report that the powers-that-be have yanked the "lost season" from both the DVD release schedule and the VOD list. I have no idea why they've done this (the 13 episode story arc is very, very cool) but I'll ask around...

Can you tell them of my tears? Heh. Man, I've been looking from that salvage from FF since it was announced. Do they not think it will sell properly? I can't imagine them not making money from it, as most everyone here (me, especially!) were looking forward to this as a saving grace. I truly loved the 2K3 series (I don't count FF).

Also, the fact that it is now two seasons long worries me. I thought it was supposed to be one season (another dream, crushed)... Can't they go back to the past??

Seriously though, tell them I cried a little. I'm a woman, it may just work on them.

[Aztec General]

Originally Posted by Murphy

Hey Tristan.

The prequel titles are totally tied into the movie (and movie comic book adaptation) and thus you're right, they're more like the Archie books in that they comprise a TMNT universe that is based solely on the world and events of the movie. Or, I suppose, movies, in that the new movie does continue the Shredder-is-dead plotline from the very first Turtle movie.

So, dang, we have yet another TMNT universe! How many does that make? Something like 7, right? Let's see:

1. Mirage comic book universe
2. Original cartoon universe
3. Archie comic book universe (which began in the original cartoon universe but then veered off into its own)
4. Movie 1 and new movie universe
5. Movie 2 and 3 universe (I don't think Kevin Munroe's "nods" to these films in the new film put them in the preceding universe... or do they?)
6. Image comic book universe
7. New cartoon universe (includes FF plotline and Dreamwave comics)

Is that it? Do we count the universe of the Mexican TMNT comic book series (based on the original cartoon but then this too wound up creating its own universe)? The Spanish comic book series (ditto)?

Oh, and what of the Live Show (shudder)?

Thanks for the info on the prequel issues. I can't wait to buy them!

Also you left out the Anime TMNT and "Our Friend Power 5". LOL.

In all seriousness, it's cool that the TMNT have so many different variations, yet are all based off of the same comic line.

[Roseangelo]

Originally Posted by Jo Dawn

So, does this mean that it's going to be like the first movie and have Don as a completely minor, back character? I certainly hope that this is not the case. Why is there no love for fans of the other two? (Don's my favorite for going on, oh, 20 years now... Leo's in second). Anyhow, I certainly hope there is equal amounts for all, and not have a Leo or Raph story. We've done that with two of the movies already.

As a Mikey fan, I have to echo this thought. This is probably my one remaining uncertainty/doubt about this movie.

[sdp]

Originally Posted by Murphy

So, dang, we have yet another TMNT universe! How many does that make? Something like 7, right? Let's see:

1. Mirage comic book universe
2. Original cartoon universe
3. Archie comic book universe (which began in the original cartoon universe but then veered off into its own)
4. Movie 1 and new movie universe
5. Movie 2 and 3 universe (I don't think Kevin Munroe's "nods" to these films in the new film put them in the preceding universe... or do they?)
6. Image comic book universe
7. New cartoon universe (includes FF plotline and Dreamwave comics)

Is that it? Do we count the universe of the Mexican TMNT comic book series (based on the original cartoon but then this too wound up creating its own universe)? The Spanish comic book series (ditto)?

Oh, and what of the Live Show (shudder)?

hahaha, i wrote something about it last May but felt it was too dumb so i didn't post it, good thing i saved it because i just posted it:
http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/sho...558#post442558

so yeah thats funny, I lived in Mexico City when the height of the original toons popularity was there but i didn't remember any comic book about it, hmm i'll try to see if i can find out more about it.

[Murphy]

Originally Posted by sdp

hahaha, i wrote something about it last May but felt it was too dumb so i didn't post it, good thing i saved it because i just posted it:
http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/sho...558#post442558 So yeah thats funny, I lived in Mexico City when the height of the original toons popularity was there but i didn't remember any comic book about it, hmm i'll try to see if i can find out more about it.

I like your universe post. Looks like we're on similar "dumb" pages. And yeah it looks like I neglected the anime universe and videogame universe(s).

Re the Mexico comic: I think it was a weekly and sometimes featured some sort of anthropomorphic tiger or jaguar (not Jagwar) or puma or other big cat type.

[gobo]

I thought the anime was an extension/tangent of the classic 'toon. Actually, I thought the same would apply to the CGI movie, it being a slight reinvention of the trilogy. But, you would know better than any of us about the new movie.

EDIT: Actually, that would put the Archie universe as a spin-off of the classic 'toon universe since they shared the same initial stories. And, thusly, Mirage's comic would simarly be related to the new 'toon.

AmIright?

[Chris]

I'd say you are with Archie being a spin off of the original cartoon universe since they did share identical opening adventures before each going in a different direction (which I believe was to be the same with Dreamwave and the new show but that comic got cancelled before that could happen).

I wouldn't link the continuities of Mirage and the new toon in that way. Yes the new toon takes a lot of influence from the comic, but there's no real shared stories (look at Vol. 1 #1 compared to "Things Change").

[Murphy]

Sitting here doing licensing approvals and what do I find in today's batch?

Yeah, a "first stage approval" (packaging design) to a 3-disc DVD set of the Lost Season... but only for Australia and New Zealand.

And it's now 12 episodes, not 13.

Seems 13 episodes entered into production but one episode got halted early in the animation process due to its story content being "too over the top." Whatever that means. Apparently, though, that missing 13th episode doesn't affect the continuity of the story arc.

So... you folks Down Under will get to see the Lost Season hit retail sometime over the next few months.

[Draconic]

Reigion Free DVD players, anyone?

[gobo]

Originally Posted by Chris

I wouldn't link the continuities of Mirage and the new toon in that way. Yes the new toon takes a lot of influence from the comic, but there's no real shared stories (look at Vol. 1 #1 compared to "Things Change").

True. There's no denying that these universes are not identical at any point. But, this is a notable relation. I was thinking more along the lines of ep #16 "The King vs. Donatello #1. Those two are about 3% away from being identical stories. Unfortunately, I can't think of a defining term for this sort of relation other than entwined (or for the Marvel Comics fan, "What If", and for the DC Comics fan, "Elseworlds"; I believe Pete's more a DC fan though).

As far as the DreamWave book, while it started with simply a skewed POV on the stories, it had gotten to all-original stories with the intention of spining-off from the show's original premises.

[Ratchet]

This is probably the first time we Aussies have come up good on a DVD release Can't wait! I'll have to keep you all posted if and when it hits...

I kinda saw the TMNT2K3 series as being somewhat similar to Marvel's Ultimate books - essentially the same characters you know and love, and familiar stories, but revamped and altered to better reflect the times and ideas of newer creative teams. I suppose as we saw, it also gives Peter a chance to expand on the Mirage universe ala the Battle Nexus. Given how far ahead comics are put into production (but also bearing in mind how far ahead TV shows have to be planned) I'd be interested in finding out which came first, the new comic's Battle Nexus or the new show's Battle Nexus...

[gobo]

Originally Posted by Murphy

a "first stage approval" (packaging design) to a 3-disc DVD set of the Lost Season... but only for Australia and New Zealand.

And it's now 12 episodes, not 13.

Seems 13 episodes entered into production but one episode got halted early in the animation process due to its story content being "too over the top." Whatever that means.

Guessing they mean "Dungeons-- er, "Demons and Dragons". But, three discs for 12 eps? Wacky... I bet if we ever get to read a script or anything, we'll think that they're being hypersensitive again like they were about "Insane in the Membrane". Maybe the reason why America is put on hold is so they can revisit and complete the ep? Yes, I dare to dream...

[BigApple3AM]

Originally Posted by Murphy

Sitting here doing licensing approvals and what do I find in today's batch?

I wish I had your job...


Thanks for keeping us in the know!

[Ecto Jedi]

Originally Posted by Murphy

Sitting here doing licensing approvals and what do I find in today's batch?

Yeah, a "first stage approval" (packaging design) to a 3-disc DVD set of the Lost Season... but only for Australia and New Zealand.

So they think it'll sell over there, but not in North America? Balls.

[Ratchet]

Dug this up from the distributor's website just a second ago (kinda surprised it was already there if Murph was just checking over the artwork today...).

The Turtles DVD's must have done some decent dollars here. There's a few different sets available in Oz that I'm pretty sure never came to the US. I've got a feeling what gets released and how all comes down to the distributors or licensees for each country. Remember, we got Insane in the Membrane aired as per usual, and the UK had those 2 Disc sets back when it all kicked off...

Anyway, here's the details:




TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES SEASON 5 BOX: NINJA TRIBUNAL
PG , 2007 , 276 minutes

Get ready to RAISE SOME SHELL in this awesome 3-disc box set featuring all 12 never-before-seen episodes from Season 5 of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles!


Abducted by the mysterious Ninja Tribunal and separated from Master Splinter, the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles – Leonardo, Donatello, Raphael and Michelangelo – are taken to a Tribal Monastery in Japan to begin a rigorous training program involving new weapons and powers. And they’re going to need all the training they can get, as the Turtles soon learn that they’ve been drafted into a battle against an ancient evil – the long-imprisoned spirit of the one true Shredder!


EPISODES
LAP OF GODS • DEMONS AND DRAGONS • LEGEND OF THE FIVE DRAGONS • MORE WORLDS THAN ONE • BEGINNING OF THE END • MEMBERSHIP DRIVE • NEW WORLD ORDER PART 1 • NEW WORLD ORDER PART 2 • FATHERS AND SONS • PAST PRESENT • ENTER THE DRAGONS PART 1 • ENTER THE DRAGONS PART 2


Format: DVD PAL
Packaging: DVD
Release Date (rent):
Release Date (buy): 07 Mar 2007
Audio: 2.0 Stereo
Aspect Ratio: 4:3 Full Screen

[Gary]

Originally Posted by gobo

Guessing they mean "Dungeons-- er, "Demons and Dragons".

The episode is 'Nightmares Recycled.'

Synopsis:

Raph, Don, Casey, and April’s evening salvage operation lands them a one-way ticket to Recycle World – the Garbageman’s deadly realm of refuse! As if fighting for their lives in a world of lethal compactors and shredders wasn’t bad enough, they’ve got to do it all with Hun – who’s not thrilled to reveal that he and Garbageman have something in common – DNA!

[Ratchet]

Wait for the deluge of people who were complaining about this episode when the guides were announced...