Michael Richards (kramer) comedy club incident

~~LogicDonny~~ · 11-24-2006, 08:43 PM

If you heard of Micheal Richards incident at the comedy club where he was heckled and he was yelling, I found the video on youtube where he was doing it.

Warning: This video will contain course langage and stupidity.. Viewers discrection is advise..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sEUIZsmTOE

Also, i found the video from a late night show where he aplogizes..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3l-gRHjUNk

This is wrong. Considering I had no idea where to put this topic, I put it in tv cuz he was on tv lol.

Peanut · 11-24-2006, 09:03 PM

Jesus. Out of control! I still lol'd though. I liked how the guy he was arguing with was saying it was all un-called for, while spouting racial comments of his own. Quite funny.

**Jester** · 11-24-2006, 09:24 PM

Yeah, but to be honest how many white people are overly offended by the phrases "cracker" or "honky". You can't honestly say those words have the same bite as the one Richards used.

Peanut · 11-24-2006, 09:26 PM

Why does it matter? It's a racial slur, isn't it? As far as I'm concerned, the words he were using are used so much in common speech these days that it hardly constitutes as a huge racial remark anymore.

**Jester** · 11-24-2006, 09:44 PM

I think Patrice O'Neil said the same thing, or at least something similar...I'm really not sure how I feel. If the situation had been reversed where a black comic lost it and hurled racial slurs at a pair of white hecklers, would it be news?

**ThirdMarioBro** · 11-24-2006, 10:43 PM

He's being attacked because he picked out a person in particular and went to town. George Carlin has said sh*t that beats that little tantrum by a factor of ten, but nobody cares because he's always referring to people in general.

~~LogicDonny~~ · 11-24-2006, 10:52 PM

Remember when they mention how Richards never been in any movies but Seinfeld.

Well they are wrong lol.

1980 Fridays TV Series
1982 Faerie Tale Theatre (TV) .... King Geoffrey, Vince
1982 Young Doctors in Love .... Malamud Callahan
1983 Herndon TV Series .... Dr. Herndon P. Stool
1984 The House of God .... Dr. Pinkus
1985 Transylvania 6-5000 .... Fejos
1986 Whoops Apocalypse .... Lacrobat
1986 Fresno (mini) TV Series .... 2nd Henchman
1987 Jonathan Winters: On the Ledge
1989 UHF .... Stanley Spadowski
1989 Seinfeld (TV) .... Cosmo Kramer
1990 Problem Child .... Martin Beck
1993 Coneheads .... Motel Clerk
1993 So I Married an Axe Murderer .... Newspaper reporter
1994 Airheads .... Doug Beech
1995 Unstrung Heroes .... Danny Lidz
1996 Ellen's Energy Adventure (uncredited) .... Caveman discovering fire
1996 London Suite (TV) .... Mark Ferris
1997 Redux Riding Hood (voice) .... The Wolf
1997 Trial and Error .... Richard 'Ricky' Rietti
2000 The Michael Richards Show TV Series .... Vic Nardozza
2000 David Copperfield (TV) .... Mr. Wilkins Micawber
2008 Cat Tale (pre-production) (voice) .... Ace

If you want to learn more about him, click on the link to teh page. It mentions the story of his outburst and etc.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Richards

*ZariusTwo* · 11-25-2006, 12:37 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjqCmtKHfR4

**Jo Dawn** · 11-25-2006, 02:11 PM

I think... Ok, how to put this...

Yes, the words he used are more commonly heard in today's society. But, it isn't so much about the word he used as much as HOW he used it. He used it in the most hurtful and vile way that he could. He meant for it to hurt.

I think it's not so much about WHAT the words are that we use towards people, as much as HOW we use words towards people.

Um, does that make sense to anyone but me? Heh. I could try and explain better.

**Barkworm** · 11-25-2006, 02:57 PM

There goes a childhood hero. What a piece of sh*t...

~~LogicDonny~~ · 11-25-2006, 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjqCmtKHfR4

Now that was funny how seinfeld theme is played.. Nicely good linky.

I love him as Kramer but I don't think it will change when I watch Seinfeld.. Will it?

**Jester** · 11-25-2006, 08:38 PM

I dunna...I own and love UHF. (I need to replace it because it's pretty scratched up) I wonder what Al thinks of his pal Stanley Spadowski's rant.

*DrSpengler* · 11-25-2006, 08:55 PM

Michael Richards needs to drink FROM THE FIRE HOSE!!!

**Jester** · 11-25-2006, 08:57 PM

He certainly dared to be stupid.

OA · 11-25-2006, 10:43 PM

Is there a double standard when it comes to racial slurs when a white person says something vs a black person? Absolutely. Is that right? Probably not. Is it right that some black people use that word so freely yet still react when a white person does? Again, probably not. But the history of that word in regards to white people using it is so vile and disgusting that I can think of no other word that could be worse for a white person to say, at least here in America. If you are white, you should not ever, ever use that word. Simple as that. Again, there is a double standard. But right or wrong, thats the way it is. In almost every circumstance if you use that word, and esp. in the way he used it, you are a racist. So IMO, kramer is a racist. And its disgusting....

~~LogicDonny~~ · 11-26-2006, 03:32 AM

you know I hear that word Micheal used at his anger on unreal tounrment 2004 by a few guys and I wonder why people even use the word? It's wrong amd immoral.

*Mecha Cow* · 11-26-2006, 09:04 AM

It's almost seems as if this was part of his act and he was trying (and failing miserably) to be funny. Either way, it's completely uncalled for. What the hell, Kramer.

And I wanted to say that someone who uses the N-word isn't neccesarily a racist, but could just be looking for something to hurt another person with (which still doesn't justify it at all), but no, after watching this video he does come off as a racist piece of sh*t.

Oh well, I don't care about him enough to let this affect my enjoyment of Seinfeld.

*DrSpengler* · 11-26-2006, 01:49 PM

Video of Kramer's apology (this is very racist of me O NOES).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjnm8fzRExc&eurl=

*Ecto Jedi* · 11-26-2006, 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LogicDonny

you know I hear that word Micheal used at his anger on unreal tounrment 2004 by a few guys and I wonder why people even use the word? It's wrong amd immoral.

We should really try to avoid letting an arrangement of letters and a series of grunting noises produced by our vocal chords get us so enflammed and upset. Really, people get shot and killed over the use of this word. And what for? It only has as much meaning or significance as we give to it. All we're doing by stigmatizing the use of this word is giving it more and more power...

**Barkworm** · 11-26-2006, 03:53 PM

I don't even think he's racist but for someone who performs on stage every day flipping out like that is completely pathetic.

11-24-2006, 08:43 PM	#1
~~LogicDonny~~ Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,643	Michael Richards (kramer) comedy club incident If you heard of Micheal Richards incident at the comedy club where he was heckled and he was yelling, I found the video on youtube where he was doing it. Warning: This video will contain course langage and stupidity.. Viewers discrection is advise.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sEUIZsmTOE Also, i found the video from a late night show where he aplogizes.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3l-gRHjUNk This is wrong. Considering I had no idea where to put this topic, I put it in tv cuz he was on tv lol.

11-24-2006, 09:24 PM	#3
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,301	Yeah, but to be honest how many white people are overly offended by the phrases "cracker" or "honky". You can't honestly say those words have the same bite as the one Richards used. __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

11-24-2006, 09:44 PM	#5
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,301	I think Patrice O'Neil said the same thing, or at least something similar...I'm really not sure how I feel. If the situation had been reversed where a black comic lost it and hurled racial slurs at a pair of white hecklers, would it be news? __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

11-24-2006, 10:43 PM	#6
ThirdMarioBro Tea Time! Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,905	He's being attacked because he picked out a person in particular and went to town. George Carlin has said sh*t that beats that little tantrum by a factor of ten, but nobody cares because he's always referring to people in general. __________________

11-25-2006, 12:37 AM	#8
ZariusTwo Overlord Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Britain, DINO THUNDER...POWER UP! Posts: 22,494	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjqCmtKHfR4 __________________ Spider-Man: The Rescue Spider-Man: The Galloping Cat Spider-Man: Scarlet Mirror Doctor Who: Child of the Daleks

11-24-2006, 09:03 PM	#2
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	Jesus. Out of control! I still lol'd though. I liked how the guy he was arguing with was saying it was all un-called for, while spouting racial comments of his own. Quite funny.

11-24-2006, 09:26 PM	#4
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	Why does it matter? It's a racial slur, isn't it? As far as I'm concerned, the words he were using are used so much in common speech these days that it hardly constitutes as a huge racial remark anymore.

11-24-2006, 10:52 PM	#7
~~LogicDonny~~ Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,643	Remember when they mention how Richards never been in any movies but Seinfeld. Well they are wrong lol. 1980 Fridays TV Series 1982 Faerie Tale Theatre (TV) .... King Geoffrey, Vince 1982 Young Doctors in Love .... Malamud Callahan 1983 Herndon TV Series .... Dr. Herndon P. Stool 1984 The House of God .... Dr. Pinkus 1985 Transylvania 6-5000 .... Fejos 1986 Whoops Apocalypse .... Lacrobat 1986 Fresno (mini) TV Series .... 2nd Henchman 1987 Jonathan Winters: On the Ledge 1989 UHF .... Stanley Spadowski 1989 Seinfeld (TV) .... Cosmo Kramer 1990 Problem Child .... Martin Beck 1993 Coneheads .... Motel Clerk 1993 So I Married an Axe Murderer .... Newspaper reporter 1994 Airheads .... Doug Beech 1995 Unstrung Heroes .... Danny Lidz 1996 Ellen's Energy Adventure (uncredited) .... Caveman discovering fire 1996 London Suite (TV) .... Mark Ferris 1997 Redux Riding Hood (voice) .... The Wolf 1997 Trial and Error .... Richard 'Ricky' Rietti 2000 The Michael Richards Show TV Series .... Vic Nardozza 2000 David Copperfield (TV) .... Mr. Wilkins Micawber 2008 Cat Tale (pre-production) (voice) .... Ace If you want to learn more about him, click on the link to teh page. It mentions the story of his outburst and etc. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Richards

11-25-2006, 02:11 PM	#9
Jo Dawn Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Authority On All Things Don Posts: 5,190	I think... Ok, how to put this... Yes, the words he used are more commonly heard in today's society. But, it isn't so much about the word he used as much as HOW he used it. He used it in the most hurtful and vile way that he could. He meant for it to hurt. I think it's not so much about WHAT the words are that we use towards people, as much as HOW we use words towards people. Um, does that make sense to anyone but me? Heh. I could try and explain better. __________________

11-25-2006, 02:57 PM	#10
Barkworm Draconian leftist ruler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 6,758	There goes a childhood hero. What a piece of sht... __________________ Make ***, not kill!

11-25-2006, 08:38 PM	#12
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,301	I dunna...I own and love UHF. (I need to replace it because it's pretty scratched up) I wonder what Al thinks of his pal Stanley Spadowski's rant. __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

11-25-2006, 08:55 PM	#13
DrSpengler Foot Elite Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 4,842	Michael Richards needs to drink FROM THE FIRE HOSE!!!

11-25-2006, 08:57 PM	#14
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,301	He certainly dared to be stupid. __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

11-25-2006, 10:43 PM	#15
OA Scatter the nuns!! Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 3,981	Is there a double standard when it comes to racial slurs when a white person says something vs a black person? Absolutely. Is that right? Probably not. Is it right that some black people use that word so freely yet still react when a white person does? Again, probably not. But the history of that word in regards to white people using it is so vile and disgusting that I can think of no other word that could be worse for a white person to say, at least here in America. If you are white, you should not ever, ever use that word. Simple as that. Again, there is a double standard. But right or wrong, thats the way it is. In almost every circumstance if you use that word, and esp. in the way he used it, you are a racist. So IMO, kramer is a racist. And its disgusting.... __________________

11-26-2006, 03:32 AM	#16
~~LogicDonny~~ Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,643	you know I hear that word Micheal used at his anger on unreal tounrment 2004 by a few guys and I wonder why people even use the word? It's wrong amd immoral.

11-26-2006, 09:04 AM	#17
Mecha Cow Gorgeous and modest too Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 3,699	It's almost seems as if this was part of his act and he was trying (and failing miserably) to be funny. Either way, it's completely uncalled for. What the hell, Kramer. And I wanted to say that someone who uses the N-word isn't neccesarily a racist, but could just be looking for something to hurt another person with (which still doesn't justify it at all), but no, after watching this video he does come off as a racist piece of sh*t. Oh well, I don't care about him enough to let this affect my enjoyment of Seinfeld. __________________

11-26-2006, 01:49 PM	#18
DrSpengler Foot Elite Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 4,842	Video of Kramer's apology (this is very racist of me O NOES). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjnm8fzRExc&eurl=

11-26-2006, 03:53 PM	#20
Barkworm Draconian leftist ruler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 6,758	I don't even think he's racist but for someone who performs on stage every day flipping out like that is completely pathetic. __________________ Make ****, not kill!