College Football Title Game

Brian · 12-04-2006, 02:06 PM

The BCS bowls were announced yesterday and the national title game will be Ohio State vs Florida. I've been hearing discussion and debate all over ESPN and I was wondering what you guys think.

Me? I wanted USC to win on Saturday.

*Katie* · 12-04-2006, 02:12 PM

the BCS is a joke. College football chooses it's "champion" in the most messed up way possible.

They need to work out a playoff system. That is the only way people will not debate forever about who deserves to be in the champinship and who the computers actually put there.

Brian · 12-04-2006, 02:15 PM

I hear ya. Plus, if they follow a March Madness-style playoff format, it would make things much more interesting. Remember George Mason at the the Final Four last season? Throw the BCS in a garbage can and light it on fire. They need a playoff system badly...

*Katie* · 12-04-2006, 02:17 PM

It's all about money and prestige of the colleges.

oh well. *waves a Florida flag* Go Gators (gotta keep my love in the SEC)

*Duke* · 12-04-2006, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Katie

They need to work out a playoff system. That is the only way people will not debate forever about who deserves to be in the champinship and who the computers actually put there.

The computers didn't put Florida in the Championship game. The computers actually rated Michigan and Florida exactly the same (.940). The voter polls that are used in connection w/ the computers to determine the BCS matchups were the ones that put Florida in the game.

*Katie* · 12-04-2006, 02:34 PM

yeah, I know. I meant that as a general statement, not one connected to this specific year.

I barely watch college football anymore....heck I barely watch Pro lately....I just remember being a youger Katie and my dad trying to explain the BCS all to me. I found it to be really pretty stupid.

*jeff the cheff* · 12-04-2006, 05:01 PM

Yea BCS is so dumb. I still don't understand why they can't do playoffs.

I hope Gators Ohiown the *uckeyes

*Cascadia* · 12-04-2006, 07:14 PM

I was hoping that USC would have won on Saturday. My team defeated USC this year....*waves an Oregon State flag*<----Leave it to the Beavers to end USC's winning streak.

**Jo Dawn** · 12-04-2006, 09:32 PM

I really don't care. I don't watch OSU games... and I live in Ohio.

Go 'Guins!!

*Kid Icarus* · 12-05-2006, 01:52 AM

I'm just glad that Nebraska sucked it up this year... Work would be horrible if we did well.

(can you tell that I don't care for our team much?)

*Masked Ninja* · 12-05-2006, 06:53 PM

*waves OSU flag*

I do think Michigan got hosed though. They made a great showing at that last game, and were the only team to give the Buckeyes real resistance this season. I don't doubt that Florida also deserves the spot, though. And a OSU/UM rematch might be too much for Glendale to handle.

As for Florida... ehh, haven't been following Florida. But I lived in Ohio for my whole pre-college life, so I was raised a Buckeye.

I'll be home for Christmas, but unfortunately I won't be there for the Game, as that Monday is the day school starts back up. Oh well... the dorm TV will work just as well.

Krang's Uncle · 12-05-2006, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Kid Icarus

I'm just glad that Nebraska sucked it up this year... Work would be horrible if we did well.

(can you tell that I don't care for our team much?)

Im a Nebraska fan. They did quite well, only USC and Oklahoma can really claim to have beat them. Nebraska gave up the games to Texas and Oklahoma St. Im not a die hard Cornhusker, but i do support them.

Im glad Florida is going to be given a chance to play for the national championship game. Michigan didnt get hosed. They had an opportunity to beat Ohio State and put themselves in the national title game, and they werent able to. End of story. How can a team not be the champ of its own conference yet have an opportunity to win the national championship? I was against Nebraska playing Miami for it a couple of years ago when they didnt make it to the Big 12 championship game too. The whole "they only lost to Ohio State" line isnt valid either. Going by that logic, Boise St. should be in the title game as they havent lost to anybody this year.

A playoff sounds good in theory, but where would the cut off be? Top eight? Top 12? Top 16? Bowls provide many programs with an opportunity to play one more game, it gives the coach more time to work with their players, and they provide a boost to local economies. I think the pros outweigh the cons.

*Cascadia* · 12-05-2006, 11:56 PM

It too bad that my other fav. team did not do as well as they usually do...they are in a rebuilding year. But they did hold onto Nebraska pretty close in the first half of the final game of the year.

Krang's Uncle · 12-06-2006, 10:05 AM

Colorado? They should have kept running the ball, as their running back (Mel Holliday) was punishing Nebraskas defensive line. I was impressed with his runs, he didnt have many but the ones he did he was breaking for a decent chunk of yards. If the game would have went into the 4th quarter tied or with Colorado ahead, i think they could have beat Nebraska. The Cornhuskers of 06 dont show up for the second half of games.

*R-iZZy* · 12-07-2006, 11:34 PM

FLORIDA ALL DAY, BABY!

Just look at my location: I was born and raised in Gator Country, so you know where my heart belongs. Gotta stick it out for my university.

What a joy it would be to know my school would be the first ever to win both the basketball and football championship in the same year. Don't wanna jinx it, though. I was so confident that we'd beat Auburn, and we ended up just getting edged in that game.

*jeff the cheff* · 12-10-2006, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Krang's Uncle

Im a Nebraska fan. They did quite well, only USC and Oklahoma can really claim to have beat them. Nebraska gave up the games to Texas and Oklahoma St. Im not a die hard Cornhusker, but i do support them.

Im glad Florida is going to be given a chance to play for the national championship game. Michigan didnt get hosed. They had an opportunity to beat Ohio State and put themselves in the national title game, and they werent able to. End of story. How can a team not be the champ of its own conference yet have an opportunity to win the national championship? I was against Nebraska playing Miami for it a couple of years ago when they didnt make it to the Big 12 championship game too. The whole "they only lost to Ohio State" line isnt valid either. Going by that logic, Boise St. should be in the title game as they havent lost to anybody this year.

A playoff sounds good in theory, but where would the cut off be? Top eight? Top 12? Top 16? Bowls provide many programs with an opportunity to play one more game, it gives the coach more time to work with their players, and they provide a boost to local economies. I think the pros outweigh the cons.

The BCS has nothing to do with winning the conference, it's supposed to be the two best teams.

Playoffs would be soooo much better and it would really decide who should win.

Krang's Uncle · 12-10-2006, 07:08 PM

Best teams based on what? Who didnt lose and to whom? If thats the case you should be in support of a Ohio State vs Boise St championship game. Neither has lost a game. Everyone else was defeated at some point in their season so therefore going by that logic they cannot be considered. As it is, the BCS did provide a matchup of the two best teams, Ohio State and Florida. So much for not having to be a conference champ in order to be one of the best teams. You provide no answers, just a cheap cop out by saying a playoff would fix everything. Thats shows a real knowledge of college football and its structure.

*Mr. Snackpants* · 12-10-2006, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Krang's Uncle

Im a Nebraska fan. They did quite well, only USC and Oklahoma can really claim to have beat them. Nebraska gave up the games to Texas and Oklahoma St. Im not a die hard Cornhusker, but i do support them.

Im glad Florida is going to be given a chance to play for the national championship game. Michigan didnt get hosed. They had an opportunity to beat Ohio State and put themselves in the national title game, and they werent able to. End of story. How can a team not be the champ of its own conference yet have an opportunity to win the national championship? I was against Nebraska playing Miami for it a couple of years ago when they didnt make it to the Big 12 championship game too. The whole "they only lost to Ohio State" line isnt valid either. Going by that logic, Boise St. should be in the title game as they havent lost to anybody this year.

A playoff sounds good in theory, but where would the cut off be? Top eight? Top 12? Top 16? Bowls provide many programs with an opportunity to play one more game, it gives the coach more time to work with their players, and they provide a boost to local economies. I think the pros outweigh the cons.

It doesn't matter if Michigan already "had their opportunity", if they are the second best team in the country they deserve to be in the NC game. I'm not saying Michigan is better than Florida, because I really have no idea. But the whole "Michigan had their chance" argument is b.s.

Don't even mention Boise State...

Krang's Uncle · 12-11-2006, 10:08 AM

Unfortunately, Michigan did have their chance and lost. The only b.s. going on is the belief that they are entitled to another game against Ohio State for the championship game. And once again, we have another person that rants and raves yet provides no solution or reason why something is b.s.

Boise State deserves as much if not more of a shot than Michigan. Period.

*Mr. Snackpants* · 12-11-2006, 07:49 PM

No soulution? Did I even suggest one? No.

It does not matter if Michigan had already played Ohio State once. The point of a Championship is the two best teams battling it out. THere is no rule stating there cannot be a rematch. Rematches happen in championships sometimes.

I did not say they are entitled to a NC berth. Both Florida and Michigan are deserving. But don't count Michigan out because "they already had their chance". Last I checked Michigan hasn't played for the NC this year. They played Ohio State in Columbus. So no, they haven't had a chance already. That was regular season and this is the bowl season.

Boise State? Please. You know darn well Boise doesn't belong in Glendale. Have you seen their schedule? First off, they play in the WAC. And second they played a DIAA team. The best team they played was Oregon State (and I don't care if they upset USC). Wow, what a schedule that was.

View Poll Results: Is this the right matchup?
Yes. This should be a really good game.	5	71.43%
No. Michigan got hosed.	2	28.57%
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12-04-2006, 02:06 PM	#1
Brian Foot Soldier Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 181	College Football Title Game The BCS bowls were announced yesterday and the national title game will be Ohio State vs Florida. I've been hearing discussion and debate all over ESPN and I was wondering what you guys think. Me? I wanted USC to win on Saturday.

12-04-2006, 02:12 PM	#2
Katie Just...way too serious. Join Date: May 2005 Location: purgatory Posts: 3,519	the BCS is a joke. College football chooses it's "champion" in the most messed up way possible. They need to work out a playoff system. That is the only way people will not debate forever about who deserves to be in the champinship and who the computers actually put there. __________________ THE WORLD IS JUST AWESOME

12-04-2006, 02:17 PM	#4
Katie Just...way too serious. Join Date: May 2005 Location: purgatory Posts: 3,519	It's all about money and prestige of the colleges. oh well. waves a Florida flag Go Gators (gotta keep my love in the SEC) __________________ THE WORLD IS JUST AWESOME

12-04-2006, 02:34 PM	#6
Katie Just...way too serious. Join Date: May 2005 Location: purgatory Posts: 3,519	yeah, I know. I meant that as a general statement, not one connected to this specific year. I barely watch college football anymore....heck I barely watch Pro lately....I just remember being a youger Katie and my dad trying to explain the BCS all to me. I found it to be really pretty stupid. __________________ THE WORLD IS JUST AWESOME

12-04-2006, 02:15 PM	#3
Brian Foot Soldier Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Minnesota Posts: 181	I hear ya. Plus, if they follow a March Madness-style playoff format, it would make things much more interesting. Remember George Mason at the the Final Four last season? Throw the BCS in a garbage can and light it on fire. They need a playoff system badly...

12-04-2006, 05:01 PM	#7
jeff the cheff Mad Scientist Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: 122 and an eighth Posts: 2,129	Yea BCS is so dumb. I still don't understand why they can't do playoffs. I hope Gators Ohiown the *uckeyes

12-04-2006, 07:14 PM	#8
Cascadia Oregonian in heart & soul Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,731	I was hoping that USC would have won on Saturday. My team defeated USC this year....waves an Oregon State flag<----Leave it to the Beavers to end USC's winning streak. __________________ Formally known as Scientific freak

12-04-2006, 09:32 PM	#9
Jo Dawn Inactive Moderator Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Authority On All Things Don Posts: 5,190	I really don't care. I don't watch OSU games... and I live in Ohio. Go 'Guins!! __________________

12-05-2006, 01:52 AM	#10
Kid Icarus Foot Elite Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Angel Land Posts: 4,150	I'm just glad that Nebraska sucked it up this year... Work would be horrible if we did well. (can you tell that I don't care for our team much?)

12-05-2006, 06:53 PM	#11
Masked Ninja Doodles TMNT for fun Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: sploshin' through some sewer... Posts: 2,137	waves OSU flag I do think Michigan got hosed though. They made a great showing at that last game, and were the only team to give the Buckeyes real resistance this season. I don't doubt that Florida also deserves the spot, though. And a OSU/UM rematch might be too much for Glendale to handle. As for Florida... ehh, haven't been following Florida. But I lived in Ohio for my whole pre-college life, so I was raised a Buckeye. I'll be home for Christmas, but unfortunately I won't be there for the Game, as that Monday is the day school starts back up. Oh well... the dorm TV will work just as well.

12-05-2006, 11:56 PM	#13
Cascadia Oregonian in heart & soul Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,731	It too bad that my other fav. team did not do as well as they usually do...they are in a rebuilding year. But they did hold onto Nebraska pretty close in the first half of the final game of the year. __________________ Formally known as Scientific freak

12-06-2006, 10:05 AM	#14
Krang's Uncle Foot Soldier Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 106	Colorado? They should have kept running the ball, as their running back (Mel Holliday) was punishing Nebraskas defensive line. I was impressed with his runs, he didnt have many but the ones he did he was breaking for a decent chunk of yards. If the game would have went into the 4th quarter tied or with Colorado ahead, i think they could have beat Nebraska. The Cornhuskers of 06 dont show up for the second half of games.

12-07-2006, 11:34 PM	#15
R-iZZy The Long Con Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: G'ville, FL (Gator Country), USA Posts: 3,007	FLORIDA ALL DAY, BABY! Just look at my location: I was born and raised in Gator Country, so you know where my heart belongs. Gotta stick it out for my university. What a joy it would be to know my school would be the first ever to win both the basketball and football championship in the same year. Don't wanna jinx it, though. I was so confident that we'd beat Auburn, and we ended up just getting edged in that game. __________________

12-10-2006, 07:08 PM	#17
Krang's Uncle Foot Soldier Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 106	Best teams based on what? Who didnt lose and to whom? If thats the case you should be in support of a Ohio State vs Boise St championship game. Neither has lost a game. Everyone else was defeated at some point in their season so therefore going by that logic they cannot be considered. As it is, the BCS did provide a matchup of the two best teams, Ohio State and Florida. So much for not having to be a conference champ in order to be one of the best teams. You provide no answers, just a cheap cop out by saying a playoff would fix everything. Thats shows a real knowledge of college football and its structure.

12-11-2006, 10:08 AM	#19
Krang's Uncle Foot Soldier Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 106	Unfortunately, Michigan did have their chance and lost. The only b.s. going on is the belief that they are entitled to another game against Ohio State for the championship game. And once again, we have another person that rants and raves yet provides no solution or reason why something is b.s. Boise State deserves as much if not more of a shot than Michigan. Period.

12-11-2006, 07:49 PM	#20
Mr. Snackpants Keep cool my babies! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mount Pleasant Posts: 2,239	No soulution? Did I even suggest one? No. It does not matter if Michigan had already played Ohio State once. The point of a Championship is the two best teams battling it out. THere is no rule stating there cannot be a rematch. Rematches happen in championships sometimes. I did not say they are entitled to a NC berth. Both Florida and Michigan are deserving. But don't count Michigan out because "they already had their chance". Last I checked Michigan hasn't played for the NC this year. They played Ohio State in Columbus. So no, they haven't had a chance already. That was regular season and this is the bowl season. Boise State? Please. You know darn well Boise doesn't belong in Glendale. Have you seen their schedule? First off, they play in the WAC. And second they played a DIAA team. The best team they played was Oregon State (and I don't care if they upset USC). Wow, what a schedule that was.