I miss Usagi. :(

Leonardo_Warrior_Turtle · 12-15-2006, 07:21 PM

While their are quite a few things that I miss from the TMNT 2k3 BFF, (before Fast Forward) their is one thing that I miss probably the most. That is the appearance of our favorite samarai rabbit Miyamoto Usagi. The episodes he were in were always some of the best animated adventures the show's team ever put together. I just watched Samarai Tourist and it's just sad not to see this rabbit warrior no longer. I'm hoping he is one of the allies mentioned in the synoposis for the Lost Season's episode where they all battle the original Shredder.

We miss you Usagi! If only we could get a spin-off.

*Masked Ninja* · 12-15-2006, 08:24 PM

They handled him well in the new 'toon, I think. It makes me want to go find the Battle Nexus DVD or something - Usagi + nice animation = yes. I miss him, too.

Though... I hope they leave him out of Fast Forward. Heaven knows what horrible angular beast the art style would turn him into.

*Warhorse* · 12-15-2006, 08:30 PM

Did they change the artists for the making of FF? I was just wondering.

And yeah, Usagi was definitely a pleasure to watch when he had his cameos.

*gobo* · 12-15-2006, 11:15 PM

Creator, Stan Sakai, would not allow him to be in FF. His arm was twisted to get Usagi for the classic show. He's not even fully satisfied with the 2K3 appearances. And, FF is a good example of why he doesn't want a series. While it might start out with him in control, when he goes off too make the movie, the show will devolve into a joke.

*discordiatookie* · 12-16-2006, 12:52 AM

howsabout space usagi?

*Sewer Bull* · 12-16-2006, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Leonardo_Warrior_Turtle

I'm hoping he is one of the allies mentioned in the synoposis for the Lost Season's episode where they all battle the original Shredder.

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Originally Posted by Masked Ninja

Though... I hope they leave him out of Fast Forward. Heaven knows what horrible angular beast the art style would turn him into.

Not a chance. Stan Sakai said that neither in Lost Season nor in Fast Forward would Usagi appear.

*gobo* · 12-16-2006, 01:22 AM

I tried to get him (Mr. Sakai) behind me to lobby for the inclusion of the Space Usagi pilot ep on the classic 'toon TMNT DVD that had the only two Usagi eps included. He didn't like the idea. My best guess is that it's because it was done without Sakai's explicit permission or input, or Fred Wolf Films (or whoever commissioned the show) just conned him out of royalties for Space Usagi being a different character from Usagi. Either way, Mr. Sakai isn't thrilled with the idea of Usagi starring in a television series. He fears that the character would be watered-down and end up losing the fans' respect. In as much as another American, independant comic, Lady Death, got a direct-to-video movie from an anime distributor, going to ADV Films with the concept might be the best hope of ever getting any such thing brought into this world.

Leonardo_Warrior_Turtle · 12-16-2006, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Sewer Bull

Not a chance. Stan Sakai said that neither in Lost Season nor in Fast Forward would Usagi appear.

When did he say this? Do you have a source that we can read this quote from? And when did he say he wasn't satisfied with his 2k3 appearance?

*Sewer Bull* · 12-16-2006, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Leonardo_Warrior_Turtle

When did he say this? Do you have a source that we can read this quote from?

Voila: http://usagiyojimbo.com/forum/viewto...r=asc&start=30

*J Legault* · 12-16-2006, 12:19 PM

In the Battle Nexus DVd bonus feature, Stan seem fine with his charater in the New TMNT series. But that feature was made a few years before the annoucement of the FF series.

And yes, I think it is wise for FF to not include Usagi.

Stephen · 12-16-2006, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by J Legault

And yes, I think it is wise for FF to not include Usagi.

There was the Usagi Utrom last week, or atleast it sounded like him

Leonardo_Warrior_Turtle · 12-16-2006, 05:50 PM

Well I went to that link and nowhere does it say about Usagi not being in the Lost Season. So I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

*Sewer Bull* · 12-17-2006, 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Leonardo_Warrior_Turtle

Well I went to that link and nowhere does it say about Usagi not being in the Lost Season. So I'm keeping my fingers crossed.

Right on, let's try this once again:

http://usagiyojimbo.com/forum/viewto...?p=15081#15081

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Originally Posted by Stan Sakai

Question: I wonder... are Usagi and Gen going to appear in the currently aired TMNT Fast Forward season? Or in the Season Five a.ka. Lost Season that is supposed to be released on DVD only?

Stan Sakai's answer: Usagi (and Gen's) appearances in the TMNT are over, at least for now. Their last appearance was, I think, Samurai Tourists.

*Sage Ninja* · 01-03-2007, 01:54 PM

that is to bad. I really liked Usagi. I really ate up the strong friendship and bond that Leo and him had with one another. They where just so perfectly in tooned with one another that I loved it. I even like old toon Usagi as well, even though that version 0f the franchise was much more light hearted.

Time Mistress · 01-12-2007, 09:33 PM

I miss Usagi too. I'd much rather watch a Usagi series than Fast Forward.

Nexxorcist · 01-13-2007, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Warhorse

Did they change the artists for the making of FF? I was just wondering.

nope, same team. it was just a style change. one of the main reasons for it was to make it easier for the animation company, dong woo, to animate the characters on model.

i think with the lost season, a lot of the animation quality was slipping, and the director thought the new style angular style without the thick and thin lines, because those can get pretty complicated when animating, would help keep the quality at a good consistent level.

*shuriken* · 01-13-2007, 07:43 PM

post 100 yay. Anyways... I liked all of Usagi's appearances, but putting him in fast forward would have crippled if not signifcantly hurt his appearance.

12-15-2006, 11:15 PM	#4
gobo Wacky Action Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: on Earth Posts: 12,784	Creator, Stan Sakai, would not allow him to be in FF. His arm was twisted to get Usagi for the classic show. He's not even fully satisfied with the 2K3 appearances. And, FF is a good example of why he doesn't want a series. While it might start out with him in control, when he goes off too make the movie, the show will devolve into a joke. __________________ Live and let live... or go to hell.

12-16-2006, 12:52 AM	#5
discordiatookie facehugger Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Aberdeen, Scotland Posts: 2,817	howsabout space usagi? __________________ Oh Discordia! Charyou Tree! Come, Reap! Don't tell us to grow up and out of it I got my cloak and dagger in a bar room brawl You actually trying to read this tiny text? Damn, you're dedicated! This is all just for effect you know... original TMNT art collection

12-16-2006, 01:22 AM	#7
gobo Wacky Action Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: on Earth Posts: 12,784	I tried to get him (Mr. Sakai) behind me to lobby for the inclusion of the Space Usagi pilot ep on the classic 'toon TMNT DVD that had the only two Usagi eps included. He didn't like the idea. My best guess is that it's because it was done without Sakai's explicit permission or input, or Fred Wolf Films (or whoever commissioned the show) just conned him out of royalties for Space Usagi being a different character from Usagi. Either way, Mr. Sakai isn't thrilled with the idea of Usagi starring in a television series. He fears that the character would be watered-down and end up losing the fans' respect. In as much as another American, independant comic, Lady Death, got a direct-to-video movie from an anime distributor, going to ADV Films with the concept might be the best hope of ever getting any such thing brought into this world. __________________ Live and let live... or go to hell.

12-16-2006, 12:19 PM	#10
J Legault Mad Scientist Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: West Coast Posts: 2,054	In the Battle Nexus DVd bonus feature, Stan seem fine with his charater in the New TMNT series. But that feature was made a few years before the annoucement of the FF series. And yes, I think it is wise for FF to not include Usagi. __________________ I am a fan of TMNT and I'm still one today. I got into the habbit back in 1992 or 93' when I was little. I would like to thank my 2 year older cousin for getting me in the habbit. 2001 was when I revised my knowledge on TMNT. And today I'm a bigger fan than I was years ago. I have all 3 TMNT Movies, current Toon, and old school Toon on DVD.

12-16-2006, 05:50 PM	#12
Leonardo_Warrior_Turtle Stone Warrior Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 858	Well I went to that link and nowhere does it say about Usagi not being in the Lost Season. So I'm keeping my fingers crossed. __________________

12-15-2006, 07:21 PM	#1
Leonardo_Warrior_Turtle Stone Warrior Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 858	I miss Usagi. :( While their are quite a few things that I miss from the TMNT 2k3 BFF, (before Fast Forward) their is one thing that I miss probably the most. That is the appearance of our favorite samarai rabbit Miyamoto Usagi. The episodes he were in were always some of the best animated adventures the show's team ever put together. I just watched Samarai Tourist and it's just sad not to see this rabbit warrior no longer. I'm hoping he is one of the allies mentioned in the synoposis for the Lost Season's episode where they all battle the original Shredder. We miss you Usagi! If only we could get a spin-off. __________________

12-15-2006, 08:24 PM	#2
Masked Ninja Doodles TMNT for fun Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: sploshin' through some sewer... Posts: 2,137	They handled him well in the new 'toon, I think. It makes me want to go find the Battle Nexus DVD or something - Usagi + nice animation = yes. I miss him, too. Though... I hope they leave him out of Fast Forward. Heaven knows what horrible angular beast the art style would turn him into.

12-15-2006, 08:30 PM	#3
Warhorse Emperor Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 5,544	Did they change the artists for the making of FF? I was just wondering. And yeah, Usagi was definitely a pleasure to watch when he had his cameos.

01-03-2007, 01:54 PM	#14
Sage Ninja Band of the Hawk Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: USA Posts: 3,926	that is to bad. I really liked Usagi. I really ate up the strong friendship and bond that Leo and him had with one another. They where just so perfectly in tooned with one another that I loved it. I even like old toon Usagi as well, even though that version 0f the franchise was much more light hearted. __________________ Cassandra: You won't fight me, but will you fight--for him! Cassandra's Revenge ~Tangled the Series ________________________________ http://frankviola.org/2012/01/30/godsviewofawoman/ _______________________________ http://nox-artemis.tumblr.com/post/4...k-and-feminism

01-12-2007, 09:33 PM	#15
Time Mistress Stone Warrior Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Pennshellvania, or the 79th level of Null-Time Posts: 710	I miss Usagi too. I'd much rather watch a Usagi series than Fast Forward. __________________ AKA the Edwardian Adventuress and Fairlady_Z "You just made your last mistake, Bugeyes -- 'cuz nobody beats up my best buddy and gets away with it -- Nobody! Got that?!" Raphael about Michaelangelo, TMNT Volume 1

01-13-2007, 07:43 PM	#17
shuriken Second City Shinobi Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Chi-town Posts: 4,182	post 100 yay. Anyways... I liked all of Usagi's appearances, but putting him in fast forward would have crippled if not signifcantly hurt his appearance. __________________ Some things are better left unsaid. This isn't one of them Last edited by shuriken; 01-13-2007 at 07:48 PM.