New Anti-Gaming movie from religious extremists

[iris]

Originally Posted by Krang's Uncle

You come off as a raving lunatic here: "See...this is just idiotic bullsh*t" and here, "My point is this, if you don't know anything about games, you have no right to an opinion on this matter, because you have no f*cking clue what you're talking about. Period." Your community is full of whiners that get so bent out of shape. How many times have video games been portrayed to be the source of society's ills before? And despite that, they are still here and dont appear to be going away, regardless of what some religious talking mouth says. Yet, here you go getting so upset because its happening again. Sometimes i forget that mental midgets dont make connections, so i'll lay it out for you. Politicians/religious figures have certain "wells" they continually draw from. These "wells" are how they keep their base of power in support of them. A "well" could be an issue such as immigrations, taxes, or even video games. Its hard not to be rude when youve got people ranting and raving like the lunatics they so detest.

Where do you get off telling Jack Thompson what he should and shouldnt get upset about? You and him probably have more in common than you think and would make good friends. You could play a game to see who comes up with the fastest knee jerk response to various topics.

This attitude of 'the gamers doth protest too much' is unsupportable, given the magnitude of the provocation, which places the burden of the American violence problem at the feet of the VG industry.

You can't see assertions like that and just roll over and go to sleep, because Thompson isn't trolling for a livid response from gamers; he's trying to convince people that he has The Answer-- that he's right. He's not responding to "ranting lunatics." You can't just say, hey we've always had videogames and we always will, so we may as well stop answering this garbage propaganda. With all due respect, that would be an incredibly naive approach. If you don't want to protect your rights, someone is always willing to take them off your hands.

[gobo]

Try limiting your 'smart' word use to three per sentence please. You confuse me otherwise.

But, you're right. If people stop making counter-arguments (insane or rational), government won't hesitate to ban videogames. They'll assume that no riots will break out over the issue.

[ThemanthatwouldbeRaphael]

Originally Posted by ThirdMarioBro

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIu3J...elated&search=

Joe Lieberman, Jack Thompson, Religious Leaders, Pastors, and soccer moms. The whole gang is here to play aren't they.

"OMG, terrorists used a plane simulator to learn how to blow us up! We must now degenerate society and voluntarily live in the dark ages! It is our only way to protect our virtues! It's what God intended!"

PROTECT THE CHILDREN!

PROTECT THE CHILDREN!

PROTECT THE CHILDREN!


It's always the same old bullsh*t speech, each and every time. The pricks have no quarrel with letting their children see the military blow people's heads off on national news each and every night, but they have every issue seeing polygons go "pop" on the TV. If stores would just enforce the damned ratings system, this would all go away.

"When I started teaching at MIT 15 years ago, students wanted to be film makers. Now they want to be game designers".


People like that are hell bent to preserve the "old system", just like all the religious extremists of the past want to "protect the old ways of life" so they can suppress people and knowledge so they can then proclaim the need for leadership to "their" personal goals. They want people to live the life they led, and nothing else. It's always the same old cycle. Disturbed people do stupid stuff. It doesn't matter if they play games, watch movies, or read the Bible. Why? All of them are violent. Everything is violent. If someone is messed up, they're messed up. If they played video games, it just becomes a convenient scapegoat.

This will stir up some sh*t, then blow over and go away again. Good tactic on their part, I must admit.

I see know I'm actually going to live up to my rants and murder Jack Thompson.

Honestly, I thought this guy had just given up since two of his anti-gaming laws were overturned. This guy is ignorrant and uninformed, just like the rest of these losers. Thats why the man avoids debating with video game experts. Although he idd get skooled by Adam Sessler on the episdoe of AOTS.

[iris]

Originally Posted by gobo

Try limiting your 'smart' word use to three per sentence please. You confuse me otherwise.

I did try. All that studying for the GRE done messed up my personal patois... I mean vernacular... I mean... I... arghhh. :p

[Draconic]

People aren't making it easy for me to pick a side.

One side hates me because I'm going to be a videogame designer, the other one hates me because I'm a Christian.

From this viewpoint, doesn't look like there's much room for me on either side.

[iris]

Originally Posted by Draconic

One side hates me because I'm going to be a videogame designer, the other one hates me because I'm a Christian.

From this viewpoint, doesn't look like there's much room for me on either side.

There's no reason to feel so conflicted. Try this on:

1. Recognize that video games do not cause violence; people understand the difference between reality and fantasy.
2. Recognize that you do not have to design violent video games. There are plenty that are not gorefests.
3. Recognize that religious views should never be enforced through law. The idea of separating church from state is one of the best ideas in government.
4. Recognize that the responsibility of teaching morality to children belongs to their parents and guardians. People do not have to buy violent video games for nine-year-olds.

[gobo]

Soooooooooo level-headed... That's HOT! :drool:

[Draconic]

Originally Posted by iris

There's no reason to feel so conflicted. Try this on...

Thanks, but I already accept all of that. I was mostly pointing out that I have people damning me on the right for playing/making videogames, (and no, they will be violent,) but I also have people on left who criticize me for being Christian, regardless of whether or not my views are in line with the likes of Jack Thompson. I think sometimes it's easy to blur the line of calling Christians fanatics, and refering solely to the fanatic Christians, if that makes any sense.

(I suppose you could draw parallels to saying, "Dumb White People" as opposed to saying "The White Dumb people")

[iris]

Well, I dunno. I am Christian. I am not a fanatic. Most people can tell the difference. Some people can't. There's not too much one can do about what goes on in other peoples' heads.

You know, people often think that there is either This Side or That Side to an issue. It's not true. It's just that the extreme ends are the loudest. Most people are firmly in the middle somewhere. So, in reality, you are in the majority group.

[Jester]

I've had this discussion before too. I'm a Christian, but I'm not a Fred Phelps/Jack Thompson Christian. I'm not an extremist, but a lot of people will make that assumption just because you classify yourself as a Christian.

[gobo]

And, that's the problem right there: people wanting everything to be black or white. Why can't the answer be a mixtuure? And, why black or white? Why not red or blue? Sometimes the answer doesn't fit the mold, but people don't want to listen.

[Peanut]

Originally Posted by Mecha Cow

I don't think anyone dislikes Thompson for hating video games. It's him publicly insulting and making blind assumptions about an entire community that has most people ticked off.

This isn't rocket science here.

People just make assumptions, dude. Like Krang's Uncle said, we're all whiners. I'm sure Jack would agree.

They don't seem to understand that we don't care that these people hate or detest games. We care that they are actively trying to ruin and or put enforcements on them, while at the same time spreading the stereo-type that we're all gun-totting time bombs. It's like that one PA comic, where Tycho screams "I play violent games" to get to the front of a long line. Jack Thompson can go on ranting and raving about how bad games are forever for all I care, but when he's trying to step in and get involved in things he just doesn't understand, i.e. the whole Bully incident, that's where I, as a gamer, take offense.

His ridiculous statements on Attack of the Show, as ThemanthatwouldbeRaphael pointed out, showed just how little he knows. I won't agree that he got owned by Sessler, because that guy doesn't know jack sh*t either, and pretty much came off as an angry FF fanboy, but he did make Thompson slip up on a couple occasions and show his ignorance.

[Mecha Cow]

Speaking of PA, it's cute how Thompson and pals conveniently ignore stuff like Child's Play.

[Krang's Uncle]

Originally Posted by Anarky

Jack Thompson is Bizarro-Peanut.

But, Uncle, please don't do that. Don't insult people like that, because you know what's going to happen.

But what I must say, I see certain similarities between the gamers' way of argumenting and those you refer to as "religious extremists". Both groups consist of raging lunatics with anger issues. I mean, good ol' Jack is his own antithesis in this way. "Videogames make people agressive... I'M GOING TO SUE YOU, PUNK!!! WWWAAAAGH!!!" It's also funny to see the gamers react. "Man this Jack Thompson's such a lunatic... THEY'RE ALL IDIOTS AND THEY SHOULD BE REMOVED FROM THIS EARTH!!! WAAAAARGGH!!!"

Finally, someone gets it. Im not trying to bash you guys for being gamers, but i cant stand how some of you (and you know who you are) ACT like the people that do hate videogames. Hypocrites is what you are. But thats your problem. If youre offended, i really dont care. Let them prove how ignorant they are, that will damage their cause more than some idiot on a message board posting "JACK ThmopSon Wants TO TAKE awy my gaMezZZZ!!!" ever will. There are organizations that will stand up for your rights, dont act like Jack has all this power to make laws as he sees fit.

And Peanut, you are a whiner. Ive accepted it, have you?

[Peanut]

Yep. Voicing my opinion is whining. Your e-peen must be nice and big now.

I mean, you assume because I type with a couple curses that I'm a lunatic, raving around about how much of an idiot Jack Thompson is. That's just the way I type things out. I'm not screaming and yelling and getting red in the face. You assume that you know everything, which is very common on the internet.

[Krang's Uncle]

Theres a better way to voice displeasure. I dont care if thats "the way i type things out." Use some brain cells and figure out a better way to voice your stance, lil Jack.

[iris]

Krang's Uncle, you seem to have a greater understanding of hypocrisy than I. Please help me with something: What do you call a person who incessantly grouches about someone else's grouching?

No, Thompson doesn't have the power to make law. Except he does. Do you know how much legislation is written by lobbyists? Apparently not. He's not going to take out the gaming industry in one fell swoop, but he'll wear away at it if people let him.

And hello, *waves at Krang's Uncle*, I work with one of those wonderful rights-defending organizations. And I'm telling you that people need to help themselves also.

[Peanut]

Originally Posted by Krang's Uncle

Theres a better way to voice displeasure. I dont care if thats "the way i type things out." Use some brain cells and figure out a better way to voice your stance, lil Jack.

I'm a single person on a message board about a kids TV show. What I say on here will make little difference. I was merely discussing the subject with some of my fellow gamers, is that wrong? It is kind of sad to see how much my few comments irked you, though.

[Mecha Cow]

Finally, someone gets it. Im not trying to bash you guys for being gamers, but i cant stand how some of you (and you know who you are) ACT like the people that do hate videogames. Hypocrites is what you are. But thats your problem. If youre offended, i really dont care. Let them prove how ignorant they are, that will damage their cause more than some idiot on a message board posting "JACK ThmopSon Wants TO TAKE awy my gaMezZZZ!!!" ever will. There are organizations that will stand up for your rights, dont act like Jack has all this power to make laws as he sees fit.

Have you read a single post in this thread? Who here is 'whining' about people 'wanting to take away their video games'? Quotes please. I also don't see how Peanut is a hypocrite for being 'upset'. Funny how you call others ignorant. How about you stop hiding behind the fact 'naughty' words were used and actually bring up some arguments? Oh wait, you can't, because you clearly have no idea what you're talking about.

Please don't post again. Ever.

[Jo Dawn]

Stoooooop fiiiiiiiiiighting....

There. That was whining.


Seriously, though. Discuss, don't start name-calling and making it personal. It's not. Thank you.