best and worst episodes of season 3?

[Krangstein]

now that all of season 3 has been released I thought we might discuss it, what's good and what's not that great about it. I personally think season 3 is the best season of TMNT but there are also boring episodes here and there. Not a surprise though, 47 episodes... thats alot. Anyway. My favourite episodes are:

Take me to your leader
Baware of the Lotus
Leatherhead meets the Rat King
Attack of The Big Maac
Shredderville
Pizza By The Shred
Return of The Fly
Casey Jones: Outlaw Hero
The Fifth Turtle
Turtles on Trial
and of course the 3-part finale.

Episodes I don't like are:

Mr. Ogg goes to town (Stupid episode, annoying voice of Ogg)
Gang's all here (really hate that one with a passion!!!)
Maltese Hamster
Case of The Hot Kimono
Turtles, Turtles Everywhere
Mutagen Monster

All in all David wise, Michael Reeves and Francis Moss wrote the best episodes IMO. David Wise did however write 2 episodes I dislike, Mr. Ogg being the worst episode he ever wrote. Michael Reeve's poorest efford is I thing The Grybyx. A special mention should be given to the awful Gangs all here. That episode pretty much pisses all over the whole mutagen-idea and I really hate that the Turtles don't recognise Rocksteady and Bebop in such an obvious disguise. But the good thing, Michaelangelo grows new shoes when mutaded into human... LOL. What I love about season 3 are all the wonderful new characters, the ones from the comics... Rat King, Leatherhead, Usagi, Casey Jones.
What do you think?

[Sonic777]

Best:
leatherhead
The last three
The rat king
The fly

Worst
Ogg

[mikey2007]

i really disliked the Mr. Ogg goes to town, but other than that i really didn't have too much problem with them, i mean, there are some that aren't as good as the others, but the Maltese Hamster was kinda funny, trying to make fun of that old radio show or whatever is was(don't remember), but my favorite by far was the pizza by the shred, probably because it was the one i watched all the time because i had taped it, lol, but the 3 parter was pretty good too, along with the few others that Krangenstein put down

[sdp]

Why so much Mr. Ogg hate? i liked him..

I don't really remember that well most episodes to say but i do think Volume 4 was one of the least enjoyable volumes of S3. I have written 'mini-reviews' on most episodes in their respective DVD volume threads.

[oldmanwinters]

I agree that it was lame for Michaelangelo to lose his "ninja powers" when he turned into a human. He wasn't born with ninja arts as a mutant turtle specific thing, but he learned them from his master. When splinter became a rat, he didn't lose his ninja skills. Also, that episode features one of April's worst ever ideas on how to get a story. Her jacket over the jumpsuit gettup was the sorriest excuse for a gang member ever.

[Krangstein]

Originally Posted by oldmanwinters

I agree that it was lame for Michaelangelo to lose his "ninja powers" when he turned into a human. He wasn't born with ninja arts as a mutant turtle specific thing, but he learned them from his master. When splinter became a rat, he didn't lose his ninja skills. Also, that episode features one of April's worst ever ideas on how to get a story. Her jacket over the jumpsuit gettup was the sorriest excuse for a gang member ever.

So true. Gang's all here is the lamest episode ever, really painful to watch...

[Sage Ninja]

I rather liked the Gangs All here, but then it is a Michaelangelo centric episode so that could be why.

I agree though that it was infinately annoying and contradictory to the story to have the turtles unable to retain their ninja abilites just because they turn human. They are ninjas because they where trained as ninjas not because they are turtles. It would have been more reasonable to have the writter have them become more vulnerable while they are human than to lose their "powers" since being turtles doen't give them any powers except perhaps built in armour that is their shells. If anything it should have been written that turning human would hinder them only because they would have to get used to their humam bodies and not have as tough of an exterior.

[Spitfire]

Episodes I Hated
The Fifth Turtle*Hated Zach*
The Ninja Sword of Nowhere, Raph's voice alone makes this one list worthy
The Four Musketurtles, stupid episode
Camera Bugged, stupid
Green with Jealousy, ugh
Mutagen Monster, even as a kid I hated this one
Case of the Hot Kimono, Just retarded
The Great Boldini, three things make this one suck, Zach, Zach's friend, child molester who tickles little kids
The Missing Map, another stupid Zach episode
The Gang's All Here, what were they thinking?
The Grybyx, God terrible, stupid little monster thing
Mr. Ogg Goes to Town, Mr.Ogg can go to hell

Favorites
Turtles on Trial, Awesome museum fight
The Maltese Hamster, Don's witty "tough guy" voice always gave me chuckle, plus it was nice to see Don on his own
Enter the Rat King, Rat King rules nuff said
Cowabunga Shredhead, by far the funniest episode of the old series
Casey Jones, guys nuts I love it
Corporate Raiders from Dimension X , and it's even better when he's nuts on the job
Leatherhead: Terror of the Swamp, LH is the bomb
Leatherhead Meets the Rat King, my favorite villains square off, what could be better?
Shredderville, ooo evil future
The three part finale was good to

[mikey2007]

Originally Posted by Spitfire666xXxXx

Episodes I Hated
...
The Great Boldini, three things make this one suck, Zach, Zach's friend, child molester who tickles little kids
The Missing Map, another stupid Zach episode...

Favorites
Enter the Rat King, Rat King rules nuff said
Cowabunga Shredhead, by far the funniest episode of the old series
....

haha oh come one, the snow ball fight was a classic in the Great Boldini, and yes i thought it was rather weird that he[Don Turtelli] would tickle people with a feather, but i don't know why u didn't atleast like it a little bit just because of the fact that the Rat King was in it, since "the rat king rules"

...and in the Missing Map, u forgot the fact that his stupid brother [Walt] is in it too

...ok personally i didn't mind zach much, the reason they put zach and Caitlin in the episodes because kids would have loved to be friends with the turtles and could relate to these guys

but i couldn't agree with you more on the Cowabunga Shredhead, i loved it as much now as i loved it when i was little, i could watch it over and over, it's darn funny

[Krangstein]

Originally Posted by Spitfire666xXxXx

Episodes I Hated
The Fifth Turtle*Hated Zach*
The Ninja Sword of Nowhere, Raph's voice alone makes this one list worthy
The Four Musketurtles, stupid episode
Camera Bugged, stupid
Green with Jealousy, ugh
Mutagen Monster, even as a kid I hated this one
Case of the Hot Kimono, Just retarded
The Great Boldini, three things make this one suck, Zach, Zach's friend, child molester who tickles little kids
The Missing Map, another stupid Zach episode
The Gang's All Here, what were they thinking?
The Grybyx, God terrible, stupid little monster thing
Mr. Ogg Goes to Town, Mr.Ogg can go to hell

Favorites
Turtles on Trial, Awesome museum fight
The Maltese Hamster, Don's witty "tough guy" voice always gave me chuckle, plus it was nice to see Don on his own
Enter the Rat King, Rat King rules nuff said
Cowabunga Shredhead, by far the funniest episode of the old series
Casey Jones, guys nuts I love it
Corporate Raiders from Dimension X , and it's even better when he's nuts on the job
Leatherhead: Terror of the Swamp, LH is the bomb
Leatherhead Meets the Rat King, my favorite villains square off, what could be better?
Shredderville, ooo evil future
The three part finale was good to

I agree with you that Raphael's voice in Ninja Sword of Nowhere was unbearable, but the episode was very good. i loved the sun-dried tomato joke. And the antique-aliens at the end were hilarious. Also I really like Four Musketurtles, very funny episodes. Some times the silly, or even stupid episodes can be hilarious, sort of guilty pleasure. Episodes I really like, but still think are mindless and stupid, are Super Rocksteady and mighty Bebop, Cowabunga Shredhead, Camera Bugged and Tertle Terminator. Really funny stuff... Season 4 had many really funny but stupid episodes.

[Sage Ninja]

Originally Posted by Spitfire666xXxXx

Episodes I Hated
The Fifth Turtle*Hated Zach*
The Ninja Sword of Nowhere, Raph's voice alone makes this one list worthy
The Four Musketurtles, stupid episode
Camera Bugged, stupid
Green with Jealousy, ugh
Mutagen Monster, even as a kid I hated this one
Case of the Hot Kimono, Just retarded
The Great Boldini, three things make this one suck, Zach, Zach's friend, child molester who tickles little kids
The Missing Map, another stupid Zach episode
The Gang's All Here, what were they thinking?
The Grybyx, God terrible, stupid little monster thing
Mr. Ogg Goes to Town, Mr.Ogg can go to hell

Favorites
Turtles on Trial, Awesome museum fight
The Maltese Hamster, Don's witty "tough guy" voice always gave me chuckle, plus it was nice to see Don on his own
Enter the Rat King, Rat King rules nuff said
Cowabunga Shredhead, by far the funniest episode of the old series
Casey Jones, guys nuts I love it
Corporate Raiders from Dimension X , and it's even better when he's nuts on the job
Leatherhead: Terror of the Swamp, LH is the bomb
Leatherhead Meets the Rat King, my favorite villains square off, what could be better?
Shredderville, ooo evil future
The three part finale was good to

you know when I was little I hated Zack the fifth turtle and the episodes that he appeared in. But to be honest when I watch the episodes with him in them objectively I rather like him. In fact I think his whole fifth turtle persona was handled rather nicely. Although I agree that the Great Boldinni was lame and so was Zach's dumbass girlfriend!

About the Gangs' All Here Michaelangelo mentions several times that he can't be a ninja in his human form but I noticed that he did quit well with the whole sneaking thing like a ninja does. He was able to stick to the shadows and follow April and the gang members with out getting detected. And did any one notice how Mike was, a very ninja way, sneak behind the door with out being scene in the instant that April opened and closed the door?

The one thing that i didn't like about Gangs All here was the fact that they didn't let Michaelangelo have more time interacting as human teenager. I think the writters missed out on a good plot by not having Michaelangelo interacting and being put in more situations with other teenagers, and then forcing him to choose between being normal and being a ninja turtle. That would have been interesting.

[Krangstein]

Originally Posted by Sage Ninja

you know when I was little I hated Zack the fifth turtle and the episodes that he appeared in. But to be honest when I watch the episodes with him in them objectively I rather like him. In fact I think his whole fifth turtle persona was handled rather nicely. Although I agree that the Great Boldinni was lame and so was Zach's dumbass girlfriend!

About the Gangs' All Here Michaelangelo mentions several times that he can't be a ninja in his human form but I noticed that he did quit well with the whole sneaking thing like a ninja does. He was able to stick to the shadows and follow April and the gang members with out getting detected. And did any one notice how Mike was, a very ninja way, sneak behind the door with out being scene in the instant that April opened and closed the door?

The one thing that i didn't like about Gangs All here was the fact that they didn't let Michaelangelo have more time interacting as human teenager. I think the writters missed out on a good plot by not having Michaelangelo interacting and being put in more situations with other teenagers, and then forcing him to choose between being normal and being a ninja turtle. That would have been interesting.

Having Michaelangelo turned into a human was a stupid idea in the first place and ripps off mythology... I remember being annoyed as a kid, so no one tell me it'+s onlay a cartoon please

[Sage Ninja]

i've been playing around with the idea of writting my own version of The Gang's All Here where the whole conflict with April needing rescue from the gang is more in the back ground and Michaelangelo getting the chance to do more normal human things and interacting with teenagers his own age is more of the main plot. However I don't know how well I could pull it off or if people would hate it since it would be a redone work of a classic episode. Most people do their own orginal work when writting fan fic instead redoing alreasy written episodes.

Man its been about two years since i've written fan fic and i really want to get back into my writing.

[oldmanwinters]

Originally Posted by Sage Ninja

However I don't know how well I could pull it off or if people would hate it since it would be a redone work of a classic episode.

I don't know how everybody else feels, but I don't think "The Gang's All Here" deserves to be called a "classic episode." Copyrighted yes, but that's about it.

I think I know what you meant to say, though. hehe

[Krangstein]

[QUOTE=Sage Ninja;462863] However I don't know how well I could pull it off or if people would hate it since it would be a redone work of a classic episode. QUOTE]

A classic episode?? Are you joking?

[Jester]

Man I hated Mutagen Monster...if only because Barry Gordon wasn't Donnie.

The line "Those chemicals are mixing together to make muta-gin" still sticks out in my mind...

[Mr._Mutant_Man]

Originally Posted by Sage Ninja

i've been playing around with the idea of writting my own version of The Gang's All Here where the whole conflict with April needing rescue from the gang is more in the back ground and Michaelangelo getting the chance to do more normal human things and interacting with teenagers his own age is more of the main plot. However I don't know how well I could pull it off or if people would hate it since it would be a redone work of a classic episode. Most people do their own orginal work when writting fan fic instead redoing alreasy written episodes.

Man its been about two years since i've written fan fic and i really want to get back into my writing.

I say give it a shot. Could be interesting. I've seen people write alternative versions of other stuff. It's an interesting concept.

[Drtooth]

Originally Posted by sdp

I don't really remember that well most episodes to say but i do think Volume 4 was one of the least enjoyable volumes of S3. I have written 'mini-reviews' on most episodes in their respective DVD volume threads.

My sentiments exactly. I still need to get Vol3, 5, and 6, but most of those episodes were hit or miss. The Casey Jones episode was the only reason I bought it, and Take me to Your Leader was the only other one I felt was memorable.

Mutagen Monster is horrid. I've been on a podium talking anti-Mutegen Monster retorhic (sp?) for the last several years. Nothing is funny in it. Maybe Vernon's reaction to the glass of milk, but the whole thing was Cow, Cowabunga, and Dude ranch puns... blhh!

[Shredder]

Interesting topic.

Favorites:

-Old Switcharoo
-Take Me to Your Leader
-Sky Turtles
-Turtles on Trial
-Four Muskaturtles
-Turtles at the Earth's Core
-Casey Jones: Outlaw Hero
-Ninja Sword of Nowhere
-Cowabunga Shredhead
-Green with Jealousy
-Pizza by the Shred
-Leatherhead Meets the Rat King
-Super Rocksteady and Mighty Bebop
-Beware the Lotus
-Shredderville
-The 3 "Big" episodes

Least Favorites:

-The Fifth Turtle (sorry, never was much of a Zach fan)
-The Missing Map (I especially hated how Zach made Krang, Bebop, and Rocksteady look so bad)
-Great Boldini (notice a pattern? )
-Mutagen Monster
-Maltese Hamster
-The Grybyx
-Turtles, Turtles Everywhere

Originally Posted by Jester

The line "Those chemicals are mixing together to make muta-gin" still sticks out in my mind...

Me too!

[Krangstein]

I am surprised how many hate Zack. I know he' s not a brilliant character, but he's ok, so much more tolerable than other kid characters in other series'.
I also think Rob Paulson gave Zack a very good voice, too bad he couldn't do the same for mr. OGG. Also I want to mention donatello's substitude voice-actor was not that bad, at least compared to Raphael, Shredder and Krangs alternative voice actors.