Saturday Morning Cartoon: 07 good or not

[Sonic777]

I wonder if saturday morning cartoons are good or not.
My favorite channel to watch kids WB because it has
some of my favorite shows like leigon of superheros
and the batman.

[DrSpengler]

While American cartoons don't exist in the volume that they used to, there are still quite a few quality ones on the airwaves, and of course, a bit less crap.

As far as Nick goes, I have a guilty pleasure in Kappa Mikey, though I hear its not very popular. I've tried giving Shuriken School a chance, but I'm just not feeling it. It's kinda creepy listening toMaurice LaMarche play a 10 year old boy and constantly hitting on characters voiced by 10 year old girls.

For Cartoon Network, Class of 3000 has some solid writing in the humor department and a great cast of voice actors. I just change the channel when they get to the musical segment (the LAST thing I want to hear is Tom Kenny rapping).

My Gym Partner is a Monkey isn't exactly high-quality material, but I would qualify it as funnier than Fosters. I'll watch it when nothing else is on, but that's about it.

And let us not forget Ben 10, which I enjoy quite a bit. It's got some great continuity and a fun premise, but the continuity isn't serious. You can miss several episodes and still jump in relatively fine.

As far as Disney goes, I didn't dig Super Robot Monkey Team at first until I saw some of the darker episodes. And let me tell you, that show could get REALLY friggin dark. It finally won me over for good when they introduced a psychotic janitor voiced by Jeffrey Combs. Awesome. Along with Megas XLR, it's cancellation is a travesty.

Yin Yang Yo is...okay. No great shakes, but at least it has the self-awareness to make fun of its own trite leassons its forced to teach at the end of every episode. Also, it's the only kids show I've seen since Fantastic Four that uses the term "this/it/you suck(s)" freely without restraint. Not a reason to like the show, but it surprised me.

Pucca...is strange. When it was a webtoon you only watched maybe a couple minute-long shorts at a time, and it was cute. But a half hour of a little girl molesting the crap out of some dude is just...creepy.

[LogicDonny]

I pretty much only watch a bit of the turtles on saturday morning and just watch regular tv like movies, etc.. i did check out the batman and that cartoon where Superman is a kid.

I miss the old days of samurai jack and Justice League.

[Peanut]

Originally Posted by LogicDonny

I miss the old days of samurai jack

I have not liked a cartoon, or indeed even watched any new cartoons, since Samurai Jack got canned. Talk about heart breaking.

[Time Mistress]

The Batman, Avatar, and Kim Possible are all worthy of watching. Not much else is currently, though Nick's Skyland shows some promise (only seen one ep so far though).

[Ecto Jedi]

Thruthfully, the only Saturday morning cartoon I watch (albeit sporadically) is TMNT. Do the majority of networks even have a Saturday morning cartoon lineup anymore? All I ever see is Fox's 4Kids. Or am I just not looking...

[Spitfire]

In my opinion cartoons died in the 90's. The last season of Batman:TAS*Or The New Adventures Of Batman* was Fast Forward status.

But in the 90's we had some great shows on the air. And to my surprise DC has put out some quality programs despite how lame I find 90% of their heroes to be. I haven't watched The Batman yet but he looks like a 12 year old and from what I've seen the animation style looks like Teen Titians. I hate that crap.

But that's just Batman. We had Justice League, Batman Beyond, X-men, Spider-man*Stock footage battles woo*, The Tick. We had guns in cartoons and blood as well. G movies should have been PG and PG movies should have been PG-13*No way TMNT 1 would have been PG now, or even made for that matter* It was great...

Now we get watered down, kinda dark storylines, no blood, laser blasters because guns are to real, and board line anime style animation even in our American cartoons. Screw that crap.

And Samurai Jack was awesome, I need to watch that show again and decide if I want to buy it. I only remember the first season. I don't think I saw the finial season. I remember he used to get all cut up and I think bleed alot. It was cool. Now they don't really even show cuts on people.

[Ecto Jedi]

Originally Posted by Spitfire666xXxXx

Now we get watered down, kinda dark storylines, no blood, laser blasters because guns are to real, and board line anime style animation even in our American cartoons. Screw that crap.

The real kicker for me was seeing the new G.I. Joe Sigma Six series getting the Japan treatment. Goddammit, it's G. I. Joe! It should never, ever be done anime-style. Ugh...

[Toonami Tom]

I used to only watch TMNT on 4Kids. I started watching The Batman last weekend on KidsWB. It's good.

[Sonic777]

Samurai Jack was cool.But aku was never final defeat in the end.It would have been cool to see that happen.

[Spitfire]

Originally Posted by Ecto Jedi

The real kicker for me was seeing the new G.I. Joe Sigma Six series getting the Japan treatment. Goddammit, it's G. I. Joe! It should never, ever be done anime-style. Ugh...

Yeah that's a kick in the nuts, too see the most American of TV programs done like an anime.

[Ra]

Originally Posted by Spitfire666xXxXx

Yeah that's a kick in the nuts, too see the most American of TV programs done like an anime.

I blame Pokemon. Really. None of this Western Anime crap came out before Pokemon. Once Pokemon was popular, I noticed seeing more and more anime-influenced cartoons coming out until...yeah, you get the picture.

There are hardly any 07 cartoons I think are worth watching. All I ever watch now is reruns of 2k3 TMNT, "Codename: Kids Next Door", "The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy", "Justice League (Unlimited)", some "Kim Possible", and "The Batman". Also not to mention reruns of "X-Men Evolution", "Superman: The Animated Series", "Batman: The Animated Series", and, if it ever pops up, "Samurai Jack".

Stuff like "Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends" I watch on occasion, but I try to avoid "Camp Lazlo", "My Gym Partner is a Monkey", and "Squirrel Boy" at all costs. In my view, most of the new cartoons of today are just rubbish. How I wish I was a kid back in the 80's and 90's...

[Spitfire]

Being in the 5th grade when Poke'mon hit let me tell you something, blame Dragon Ball Z. I don't know about you guys but at my school when DBZ hit it was the **** all the way until 8th grade, and even then it was still the ****.

Now it's just ****, but the point is after DBZ I saw a new wave of anime being brought onto our airwaves. Toonami started with just DBZ and then American shows. Slowly it turned into all anime. I think it still is. And they used to show Outlaw Star and Cowboy Bebop in the evenings at like midnight or 1 AM. Those shows were good.

Now all they show is crap. Not that anime is any goo to begin with but it's just to popular. And I don't know about where you guys live but where I live the population is mostly Asian. The Asian population is in fact larger then all the other races combined. This could be why, in my area at least, anime is so stupidly popular.

I went out with a girl who liked anime. I had to watch the most god awful crap I've ever been submitted to. And she dragged me to a convention...ugh. She got mad because all I did was make fun of how crappy peoples costumes were, or how utterly retarded some of them looked.

Anyways most studios out source for animation so that style carries over. And being as how anime is popular why not rip it off. Anime has good animation for the most part, but the story telling is just crap. So you mix the two and you think you have gold...if it's not broke don't fix it. Please...

[Ra]

Ah yes, Dragon Ball Z...that has to be blamed for the current state of cartoons too...As much as I love everything up to the end of the Frieza Saga, I'm afraid this and Pokemon inspired all of the animation companies to say "Hey! That's pretty popular! Let's try and copy their style..."

Please, when can we see good old fashioned western animation again?! *moans*

[LogicDonny]

The ocean group dub of Dragonball z was my favorite..

I miss dragonball z, it was years and years before they finally finished the series like 7 years ?

sailor moon, pokemon, dragon ball z.

I rather watch them in uncut than censored.

The 80's and 90's sure has some great animation..

Look no furtuher, we still got some prime-time animation on so at least we get something good.

[ThirdMarioBro]

I gave up animation after the Jap invasion. Adult Swim and the Simpsons are about all I've got left. It was all anime kid pandering and other sh*t.

[ZariusTwo]

Too bad Youtube does'nt have the classic M.A.S.K episode "Assault On Liberty", which involves the twin towers (creepy sight indeed to see Miles Mayhem in the building...makes you wonder)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYW4z...elated&search=

Found more from the most criminally underrated animated series ever.

[Krang]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Yes, the animation inudstry is starting to recover from the cancerous incursion of Jap crap anime importing...even if some of the shows are a little slow in proving it.

Despite your use of anime as a scapegoat, the "animation industry" was already on the decline in the mid 90's, which was before anime became commonplace in the US. While I agree that it's stupid when American cartoons copy Japanese stylizations, I don't think they would be any better off today if it weren't for anime importing. In fact, Saturday morning cartoons were pretty much gone already in the early 90s due to completely unrelated factors, so I don't see the point of bringing up your dislike of anime in this thread in the first place.

Originally Posted by Spitfire666xXxXx

In my opinion cartoons died in the 90's. The last season of Batman:TAS*Or The New Adventures Of Batman* was Fast Forward status.

But in the 90's we had some great shows on the air.

I agree. I can't think of too many cartoons from the mid-90's or later that were worth watching, in my opinion. The only exceptions I can think of are ones that began earlier and were still going (like TMNT) and ones by Warner Bros. (like Pinky and the Brain, Animaniacs, Batman, Justice League, etc.).

Originally Posted by Spitfire666xXxXx

Now it's just ****, but the point is after DBZ I saw a new wave of anime being brought onto our airwaves. Toonami started with just DBZ and then American shows. Slowly it turned into all anime. I think it still is. And they used to show Outlaw Star and Cowboy Bebop in the evenings at like midnight or 1 AM. Those shows were good.

And that was just one programming block on one station. I wouldn't exactly call that excessive. Besides, with Toonami reduced to once a week and TechTV merged with G4, there's far less anime on TV now than there was in the early 2000's.

Now all they show is crap. Not that anime is any goo to begin with but it's just to popular.

By saying that anime is not "any good to begin with," you're admitting to being biased against all anime without any consideration for things like genres, production companies, etc. That's like saying that all movies are crap just because you happened to see a few bad ones.

And I don't know about where you guys live but where I live the population is mostly Asian. The Asian population is in fact larger then all the other races combined. This could be why, in my area at least, anime is so stupidly popular.

Err... that's rather ignorant and stereotypical to blame Asians for the popularity of anime, which is supposedly such a bad thing. And I fail to see how the populations of Asian countries are relevant to this topic at all.

I went out with a girl who liked anime. I had to watch the most god awful crap I've ever been submitted to.

I doubt she made you watch every single anime series in existence, so maybe you should consider that you just saw a few series that you didn't like (or, possibly, that you were so biased against anime that you had subconsciously decided to hate each series before even seeing them). But whatever you saw certainly doesn't represent anime as a whole.

Anime has good animation for the most part, but the story telling is just crap.

If you don't want to watch anime, that's your choice, but please avoid using baseless generalizations to support your decision.

[Mr._Mutant_Man]

The only cartoons I've really seen on Saturday mornings lately have been Legion and The Batman. This is partially because nothing else interests me, and also because of the fact that my Fridays are typically spent staying up really late the night before....playing video games and occasionally drinking beer (and maybe once every so often when the planets are aligned I go out).

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by Krang

Despite your use of anime as a scapegoat, the "animation industry" was already on the decline in the mid 90's, which was before anime became commonplace in the US. While I agree that it's stupid when American cartoons copy Japanese stylizations, I don't think they would be any better off today if it weren't for anime importing. In fact, Saturday morning cartoons were pretty much gone already in the early 90s due to completely unrelated factors, so I don't see the point of bringing up your dislike of anime in this thread in the first place.

You say I dislike anime, yet take ONE look at my avatar. Go on, take a look...

I don't dislike anime at all, present anime maybe, but not the genre completly, I hate what DEPENDING on it has done to American innovation.