Pete hates the old toon?

[Kendamu]

Okay, I read around TMNT forums and stuff like that and I've read a few times that Peter Laird hated the old TMNT cartoon. Now, I can see why he might not like it, but I've never seen an actual source quote or whatever where Pete was like "Hand me an old 'toon DVD and I'll take a #2 on it" or whatever.

Anyone wanna point out a source for me so I can read Pete's views of the old 'toon for myself?

[Buslady]

The old toon was not his vision of what the TMNT are. He described them as looking inflatable which they were.

[DrSpengler]

He has stated about a jillion times in the letters collumn of Vol. 4 that he does NOT hate the old toon or Bebop & Rocksteady or any of that.

He says that it just wasn't "his vision" of the TMNT but he udnerstands why so many people loved it and he respects it for being the main factor in the TMNT's worldwide popularity. There were thigns about it he hated, but he doesn't hate the show itself in its entirety.

[Kendamu]

EDIT: Letters columns.

I'll actually have to start reading those. Thanks!

[Brock]

Originally Posted by Goongasnootch

Okay, I read around TMNT forums and stuff like that and I've read a few times that Peter Laird hated the old TMNT cartoon. Now, I can see why he might not like it, but I've never seen an actual source quote or whatever where Pete was like "Hand me an old 'toon DVD and I'll take a #2 on it" or whatever.

Anyone wanna point out a source for me so I can read Pete's views of the old 'toon for myself?

In the interview with him on the Volume 1: Attack of the Mousers DVD, Peter says (in regard to the old show):

"With the first animated series the emphasis was on humor and it was sort of like humor with a little bit of action, which is the exact opposite of how we used to do the comics, which was action with humor....

I liked the old show, I thought it was fun, the Turtles were always too puffy for me, too cutesy...

The Turtles don't walk around in the daytime, which they did quite a bit in the old series, drove me crazy..."

My impression is that that he does not hate the old series but believes that the current one is a superior product. If I come across any more quotes I'll post them.

[triplexxx]

Originally Posted by Buslady

The old toon was not his vision of what the TMNT are. He described them as looking inflatable which they were.

He's entitled to his opinion like anyone else, but they weren't any fatter than their NT counterparts, except in animation mistakes, even if there were a lot.

[kerfootw]

Originally Posted by Brock

In the interview with him on the Volume 1: Attack of the Mousers DVD, Peter says (in regard to the old show):

"With the first animated series the emphasis was on humor and it was sort of like humor with a little bit of action, which is the exact opposite of how we used to do the comics, which was action with humor....

I liked the old show, I thought it was fun, the Turtles were always too puffy for me, too cutesy...

The Turtles don't walk around in the daytime, which they did quite a bit in the old series, drove me crazy..."

My impression is that that he does not hate the old series but believes that the current one is a superior product. If I come across any more quotes I'll post them.

He's right you know. Now if only I could make those bastards on the imdb get with it!

[ThemanthatwouldbeRaphael]

Originally Posted by kerfootw

He's right you know. Now if only I could make those bastards on the imdb get with it!

Dude don't bother. I wasted 3 days arguing with inbred, backwoods, retard about this on imdb. Never again.

[Warhorse]

Originally Posted by ThemanthatwouldbeRaphael

Dude don't bother. I wasted 3 days arguing with inbred, backwoods, retard about this on imdb. Never again.

You did? Who were you on imdb.

[Rooish]

Originally Posted by Goongasnootch

EDIT: Letters columns.

I'll actually have to start reading those. Thanks!

The letters are the best part of the comic. Pete rants, people get mad at him and insult Jim Lawson's art. Pure gold.

[Buslady]

They can't take it that they have an artist who used to really nice work years ago, and now looks like he's drawing thumbnails instead of finished art.

[ZariusTwo]

And of course I recall telling all of those critics to go hump themselves in the letters pages for being ungrateful brats who love to complain about everything.

AND he published them

[Kendamu]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

And of course I recall telling all of those critics to go hump themselves in the letters pages for being ungrateful brats who love to complain about everything.

AND he published them

I like Pete and I like the majority of what he does but that just put him on a whole new level of awesomeness for me.

[ThemanthatwouldbeRaphael]

Originally Posted by Warhorse

You did? Who were you on imdb.

nickdesigns

And of course I recall telling all of those critics to go hump themselves in the letters pages for being ungrateful brats who love to complain about everything.

AND he published them

This I gotta read, which issue(s)

[Kendamu]

That reminds me. I need to pack up my comic collection for this weekend at a friends' house. They'll love snagging a look at my new stash I've gotten since I last saw them. That, and it'll give me time to read the letters since they don't have cable and their computer is currently broken.

[ThemanthatwouldbeRaphael]

Originally Posted by Goongasnootch

That reminds me. I need to pack up my comic collection for this weekend at a friends' house. They'll love snagging a look at my new stash I've gotten since I last saw them. That, and it'll give me time to read the letters since they don't have cable and their computer is currently broken.

No cable or internet?

How do they survive?

[Kendamu]

Originally Posted by ThemanthatwouldbeRaphael

No cable or internet?

How do they survive?

We spar, do randori, watch DVDs, play video games, go somewhere else, run on walls, climb stuff, make weapons, throw spears, read comics, sleep, etc.

[kerfootw]

Originally Posted by ThemanthatwouldbeRaphael

nickdesigns



This I gotta read, which issue(s)

Cool! Who were you on tv.com (if you were I mean)? I had the same name.

[ThemanthatwouldbeRaphael]

Originally Posted by kerfootw

Cool! Who were you on tv.com (if you were I mean)? I had the same name.

Are you following me online?

Anyways, I'm Splinters_pupil.

[Ratchet]

Originally Posted by Rooish

The letters are the best part of the comic. Pete rants, people get mad at him and insult Jim Lawson's art. Pure gold.

I actually find the TMNT and Tales letters columns to be some of the best reading I have to look forward to each month (outside of the comic itself of course!). There was a time there where the political bombardment was intense! It's a very different forum to what you see in other comics... I don't think I've seen Marvel or DC run letters like the ones in the TMNT books in... like... wellll... EVER!