I hated whenever Raph threw his SAIS

dante1st · 03-14-2007, 01:11 PM

I just used to hate that so much, it just feels like he's vulnerable when he "throws his weapon away," whether it be in the cartoons, movie, or comics. It just seems that in the heat of battle the effort to go and retrieve the thrown sai that skewered an enemy and then continue fighting the next bad guy outweighs simply dispatching your opponent using traditional weapon based combat that excludes throwing.

*Revan* · 03-14-2007, 02:57 PM

ha, i know exactly what you mean! I read earlier in the "Raph's Sais" thread that many ninjas carried three sai in the case that they had to throw one and could not retrieve it.

That is the one thing FF got right. When raph hurls his weapons if FF, they "magically" find their way directly back into his hands after striking the target.

Raph'N'Roll · 03-14-2007, 03:18 PM

I don't mind him doing it if he has no other choice, and out of all four Turtles his weapon is the most throwable.
But there were times in both old and new cartoons when he seemed to throw them just for the sake of it, which is silly, and I doubt Splinter would be too happy with that.

*Revan* · 03-14-2007, 03:20 PM

"I lost a Sai!"

"Then it is gone."

"'But I can get it back!"

dante1st · 03-14-2007, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Neutrino

"I lost a Sai!"

"Then it is gone."

"'But I can get it back!"

You wouldn't have lost it if you didn't fling them around so much!!

*Kendamu* · 03-14-2007, 06:49 PM

I remember Leo throwing his swords at least a couple of times so it's not all Raph. Besides, unlike Leo, Sai are supposed to be thrown in certain situations.

*Revan* · 03-14-2007, 07:18 PM

Yeah throwing weapons with a purpose makes sense. The part that does not make sense is how they don't retrieve their weapons but still have them later.

*Kendamu* · 03-14-2007, 09:27 PM

Remember the storage shell Turtles figures? That was my explination for that.

Raph86 · 03-14-2007, 09:32 PM

Well in the movies, he didn't really use his sais that much. Usually he just used punching and kicking moves. I don't know why he gets so mad that he lost a sai, it's not like he uses them anyway.

*Kendamu* · 03-14-2007, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Raph86

Well in the movies, he didn't really use his sais that much. Usually he just used punching and kicking moves. I don't know why he gets so mad that he lost a sai, it's not like he uses them anyway.

A lot of basic sai techniques involve holding the sai so that punching and blocking technqiues are more effective (due to blocking and striking with metal). I always kind of saw them in a similar light to the brass knuckles.

That might explain his punching and stuff.

*Revan* · 03-14-2007, 09:37 PM

Thats true but none of the boys really use their weapons in the movie or in the cartoons. If they really did use them, there would probably be way more dead foot ninjas instead of foot ninjas getting bumped heads. I mean come on, double katana blades and no fatalities?! I don't want to start another tmnt violence snowball fight, I'm just saying.

*Kendamu* · 03-14-2007, 09:39 PM

You can thank the target audience at the time (me) for that sort of thing.

*Revan* · 03-14-2007, 09:46 PM

Yeah me too.

Even as a child I can remember thinking to myself. "Why doesn't shredder just arm his foot clan with guns?" Of course that wouldn't matter since the boys can dodge lasers. Ever notice how shooters always seem to miss the boys.

*Kendamu* · 03-14-2007, 09:48 PM

The way I saw it back then was that "Ninjas don't use guns" and other stuff like that.

It wasn't until I grew up that I found out that the Japanese have had guns since the 1500s or so and that Ninja did use them if they could get ahold of them.

*Revan* · 03-14-2007, 09:50 PM

Ha yeah. 3 ninjas.

"Rocky, these ninjas have guns!"

"Colt, if they have guns, they're no ninjas."

(I always wanted to be colt. Rocky = Leo. Colt = Raph. Tum-Tum = Mike)

*Kendamu* · 03-14-2007, 09:53 PM

Yeah. Out of myself and a couple of my good friends at the time, I was Colt.

*Revan* · 03-14-2007, 09:57 PM

And the three goons = Beebop and Rocksteady. The 3 ninjas made quick work of those morons.

BTW, I vaguely remember another movie similar to 3 ninjas with preteenagers that had martial arts skill. The only thing I can remember about the movie is a character named Cookie. Anyone know what movie this is?

*Spitfire* · 03-14-2007, 10:10 PM

Because it's totally cool to see him kill everyone he fights the exact same way. Totally entertaining.

*Kendamu* · 03-14-2007, 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neutrino

And the three goons = Beebop and Rocksteady. The 3 ninjas made quick work of those morons.

BTW, I vaguely remember another movie similar to 3 ninjas with preteenagers that had martial arts skill. The only thing I can remember about the movie is a character named Cookie. Anyone know what movie this is?

http://www.badmovieplanet.com/unknow...ws/rev377.html

Is this what you're asking about?

*Revan* · 03-14-2007, 11:11 PM

Wow! Yep that's it. Man I remember it being better than that. Ha, I was really into all things ninja when I was young. Surf Ninjas, 3 Ninjas, tmnt of course. My love for tmnt led me into battletoads as well.

03-14-2007, 01:11 PM	#1
dante1st New Recruit Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 4	I hated whenever Raph threw his SAIS I just used to hate that so much, it just feels like he's vulnerable when he "throws his weapon away," whether it be in the cartoons, movie, or comics. It just seems that in the heat of battle the effort to go and retrieve the thrown sai that skewered an enemy and then continue fighting the next bad guy outweighs simply dispatching your opponent using traditional weapon based combat that excludes throwing. Last edited by dante1st; 03-14-2007 at 06:50 PM.

03-14-2007, 02:57 PM	#2
Revan Han Shot First Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Paper Street Soap Company Posts: 3,687	ha, i know exactly what you mean! I read earlier in the "Raph's Sais" thread that many ninjas carried three sai in the case that they had to throw one and could not retrieve it. That is the one thing FF got right. When raph hurls his weapons if FF, they "magically" find their way directly back into his hands after striking the target. __________________

03-14-2007, 03:20 PM	#4
Revan Han Shot First Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Paper Street Soap Company Posts: 3,687	"I lost a Sai!" "Then it is gone." "'But I can get it back!" __________________

03-14-2007, 07:18 PM	#7
Revan Han Shot First Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Paper Street Soap Company Posts: 3,687	Yeah throwing weapons with a purpose makes sense. The part that does not make sense is how they don't retrieve their weapons but still have them later. __________________

03-14-2007, 09:32 PM	#9
Raph86 Random Punk Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Hickville, USA Posts: 30	Well in the movies, he didn't really use his sais that much. Usually he just used punching and kicking moves. I don't know why he gets so mad that he lost a sai, it's not like he uses them anyway. __________________ "Hey we spent half our lives crawling around the bottom of a glass bowl, and we ain't going back." -Raphael My DA http://hammerfallen.deviantart.com/

03-14-2007, 03:18 PM	#3
Raph'N'Roll Hench Mutant Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Ireland Posts: 313	I don't mind him doing it if he has no other choice, and out of all four Turtles his weapon is the most throwable. But there were times in both old and new cartoons when he seemed to throw them just for the sake of it, which is silly, and I doubt Splinter would be too happy with that.

03-14-2007, 06:49 PM	#6
Kendamu Sewerhead Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 2,890	I remember Leo throwing his swords at least a couple of times so it's not all Raph. Besides, unlike Leo, Sai are supposed to be thrown in certain situations.

03-14-2007, 09:27 PM	#8
Kendamu Sewerhead Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 2,890	Remember the storage shell Turtles figures? That was my explination for that.

03-14-2007, 09:37 PM	#11
Revan Han Shot First Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Paper Street Soap Company Posts: 3,687	Thats true but none of the boys really use their weapons in the movie or in the cartoons. If they really did use them, there would probably be way more dead foot ninjas instead of foot ninjas getting bumped heads. I mean come on, double katana blades and no fatalities?! I don't want to start another tmnt violence snowball fight, I'm just saying. __________________

03-14-2007, 09:39 PM	#12
Kendamu Sewerhead Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 2,890	You can thank the target audience at the time (me) for that sort of thing.

03-14-2007, 09:46 PM	#13
Revan Han Shot First Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Paper Street Soap Company Posts: 3,687	Yeah me too. Even as a child I can remember thinking to myself. "Why doesn't shredder just arm his foot clan with guns?" Of course that wouldn't matter since the boys can dodge lasers. Ever notice how shooters always seem to miss the boys. __________________

03-14-2007, 09:48 PM	#14
Kendamu Sewerhead Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 2,890	The way I saw it back then was that "Ninjas don't use guns" and other stuff like that. It wasn't until I grew up that I found out that the Japanese have had guns since the 1500s or so and that Ninja did use them if they could get ahold of them.

03-14-2007, 09:50 PM	#15
Revan Han Shot First Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Paper Street Soap Company Posts: 3,687	Ha yeah. 3 ninjas. "Rocky, these ninjas have guns!" "Colt, if they have guns, they're no ninjas." (I always wanted to be colt. Rocky = Leo. Colt = Raph. Tum-Tum = Mike) __________________

03-14-2007, 09:53 PM	#16
Kendamu Sewerhead Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 2,890	Yeah. Out of myself and a couple of my good friends at the time, I was Colt.

03-14-2007, 09:57 PM	#17
Revan Han Shot First Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Paper Street Soap Company Posts: 3,687	And the three goons = Beebop and Rocksteady. The 3 ninjas made quick work of those morons. BTW, I vaguely remember another movie similar to 3 ninjas with preteenagers that had martial arts skill. The only thing I can remember about the movie is a character named Cookie. Anyone know what movie this is? __________________

03-14-2007, 10:10 PM	#18
Spitfire Writer • Director Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 12,035	Because it's totally cool to see him kill everyone he fights the exact same way. Totally entertaining. __________________ Check out my online portfolio http://www.christopherpelletier.com/

03-14-2007, 11:11 PM	#20
Revan Han Shot First Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Paper Street Soap Company Posts: 3,687	Wow! Yep that's it. Man I remember it being better than that. Ha, I was really into all things ninja when I was young. Surf Ninjas, 3 Ninjas, tmnt of course. My love for tmnt led me into battletoads as well. __________________