Loose ends tied up? Almost!

martinitolove · 03-15-2007, 05:59 PM

Loose ends tied up? Almost!

Here are the untied ones:

1. How has Ch'rell became Shredder, subdued the Mystics and founded the Foot Clan?

2. Which one of the Shredders has won the Battle Nexus Tournament?

3. What has Leatherhead been doing between the end of the third season and "Good Genes" episode? Why wasn't he helping TMNT to counter the attack during the "Scion of the Shredder" and “Enter the Dragons”?

4. What about April's and Renet's meeting in the future?

5. What is April’s origin? Is she a drawing by Kirby that came to live (like in the comic)? Then how comes she has a sister and an uncle Augie?

6. Where is the promised "Worms of Madness" incorporation?
Plot: a Foot Mystic resurrects the colony worms that were used to clone Shredder and manifests them into a huge amphibious creature thing that kidnaps Splinter and puts a reversing spell on the Turtles causing them to become the opposites of themselves. In other words, Leo is a goof, Mikey is all serious, Raph is a wimp, and Don is a dumbass.

7. Will the alien creature from "The Darkness Within" be found and destroyed by Bishop at any time?

8. Will we ever know the full story behind “Nightmares Recycled", Garbageman and Hun?

9. Now that TMNT were Dragons it would be cool for Dragonlord from Next Mutation to appear…

10. What about
- Zog,
- Clunk,
- Rat King,
- Touch & Go,
- Usagi, Gen, Lord Hebi, Kojima?

9. What does the future brings to:
- Karai & Chaplin
- Bishop and Baxter
- Hun and the Purple Dragons
- Human Acolytes
- Tribunal and the Ancient One
- Renet and Lord Simultaneous
- April and Casey?

Tied up loose ends, although a future return is easily possible:

1. Ch’rell is in space

2. Traximus and Mozar rule the Triceraton Empire fine

3. Nano is a member of the Justice Force

4. Nobody is a member of the Justice Force

5. Atlantis’ story is over and the Avian Raptarr is a member of Justice Force

6. The Utroms and Fugitoid are living together in space

7. Draco is dead and Battle Nexus world is doing great

PS: take a look at my previous post regarding things after the end of season four: http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/sho...ighlight=klunk

*Revan* · 03-15-2007, 06:03 PM

From your list, I would most like to see Renet and April's scenario.

~~ThemanthatwouldbeRaphael~~ · 03-15-2007, 07:02 PM

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1. How has Ch'rell became Shredder, subdued the Mystics and founded the Foot Clan?

He had Chuck Norris' help.

2. Which one of the Shredders has won the Battle Nexus Tournament?

The black one

3. What has Leatherhead been doing between the end of the third season and "Good Genes" episode? Why wasn't he helping TMNT to counter the attack during the "Scion of the Shredder" and “Enter the Dragons”?

Becasue he was holding out for more money

4. What about April's and Renet's meeting in the future?

You'll see the video's online. Though, you need to be 18 and over to view

5. What is April’s origin? Is she a drawing by Kirby that came to live (like in the comic)? Then how comes she has a sister and an uncle Augie?

This will be my only serious answer: In the comics, we learn she was born after Robyn, when their parents couldn't have kids. So she's kinda adopted.

6. Where is the promised "Worms of Madness" incorporation?
Plot: a Foot Mystic resurrects the colony worms that were used to clone Shredder and manifests them into a huge amphibious creature thing that kidnaps Splinter and puts a reversing spell on the Turtles causing them to become the opposites of themselves. In other words, Leo is a goof, Mikey is all serious, Raph is a wimp, and Don is a dumbass.

Pirates stole the finished product

7. Will the alien creature from "The Darkness Within" be found and destroyed by Bishop at any time?

Depends if Bishop is in a killing mood

8. Will we ever know the full story behind “Nightmares Recycled", Garbageman and Hun?

Not as long as pussies run the country

9. Now that TMNT were Dragons it would be cool for Dragonlord from Next Mutation to appear…

......... really?

10. What about
- Zog, He's dead, nuff said
- Clunk, I'm pretty sure he's dead too
- Rat King, He took of the bandages and broke into showbusiness. Youy know him as Justin Timberlake
- Touch & Go, They're not coming back till they legalize gay marrige
- Usagi, Gen, Lord Hebi, Kojima? They're in another comic book

9. What does the future brings to:
- Karai & Chaplin They do it, it gets wierd, he cries, it doesn't go anywhere from there
- Bishop and Baxter They get addicted to Gears of War
- Hun and the Purple Dragons They become a broadway singing group. Get Canned after 2 weeks, and then turn to the world of male prostitution
- Human Acolytes I'm pretty sure they die again
- Tribunal and the Ancient One Vegas Baby!
- Renet and Lord Simultaneous She accidentally messes up time so that Anna Nicole Smith never died
- April and Casey? They get replaced by a female Turtle

I hope this helps.

*Revan* · 03-15-2007, 09:02 PM

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- April and Casey? They get replaced by a female Turtle

Hahaha! Awesome! Funniest thing I've heard all day.

Leonardo_Warrior_Turtle · 03-15-2007, 10:08 PM

It's amazing the amount of loose ends the series has. That's why they at least should of done a complete ending to all of that before jumping into Fast Forward. I mean Enter the Dragons Part II is a great finale to 2k3 but all those loose ends untied makes me cringe. Maybe we should campaign for some direct to DVD TMNT 2k3 movies.

*Revan* · 03-15-2007, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Leonardo_Warrior_Turtle

Maybe we should campaign for some direct to DVD TMNT 2k3 movies.

No joke, I'm in. I never want it to end. NEVER.

*Chris* · 03-16-2007, 03:01 AM

I've not seen the TLS episodes that didn't air On Demand yet (still working my way through the DVDs rest of the series in order before I watch all of TLS) but I'll answer as best I can. These answers will contain SPOILERS.

1. This could be a great multipart episode like Secret Origins, though I suppose it works just as well as an unanswered mystery. He probably heard the story and took the name and armor to inspire fear and either made or obtained the Heart of Tengu (was this actually a remaining part of the original demon Shredder before he merged with Oroku Saki?) and used that to subdue the mystics.

2. I'm guessing the original/real Saki before he became evil and joined with the demon Tengu Shredder.

3. No idea, maybe he was away research Utrom tech and trying to rebuild a transmat to get home to the Utroms? Or maybe he has built a transmat (or been given one by the Utroms) and was off world visiting them?

4. I'm guessing that was hinting at April's origin and it would have been a future story that will now probably never get made.

5. I think it was intended to be the same as in the comics, she was drawn by her father using Kirby's crystal and a lot of will power. Though I don't think they would have gone into detials like unable to have children (too much info for a kids show and it contradicts Fast Forward)

6. In all honesty I think the promised "Worms of Madness" adaptation for Season 4 was what eventually became the Season 5 real Shredder storyline.

7. Probably already done off camera.

8. Nope, best we can hope for is script and/or storyboards to be included on the DVD set or on the official site after the US release of TLS.

9. Not if Peter Laird has his way. Done right I think Dragon Lord could be ok, but I just can't see it happening (just as I doubt the TMNT will become dragons again after TLS)

10. Zog's dead, Clunk is probably in the lair somewhere (he can't be dead in TMNT time it's been less than a year since Mikey found him), Rat King is still lurking in the shadows somewhere, I think Touch and Go probably left town after they got beat by Mikey and Splinter, Usagi and his friends are still around in their own world, Karai is probably running the Foot justly now (with Chaplin helping her), Bishop is being Bishop and with any luck Baxter will soon die, Hun and the Dragons are probably a petty street gang being hunted by Karai's good Foot, the Human Acolytes return to their normal lives like the TMNT did, the Tribunal return to Japan and rebuild their temple, April and Casey will hopefully get married (I really wanted TLS to end with a proposal) and eventually have a daughter called Shadow.

That's my guesses anyway!

martinitolove · 03-16-2007, 03:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Neutrino

Hahaha! Awesome! Funniest thing I've heard all day.

Yeah - do I hear some fans of Venus de Milo?

~~LogicDonny~~ · 03-16-2007, 01:10 PM

It is a shame that the loose ends is questioned in many shows.. sometimes we never get to see it happen.

I hope the writers contuine the show in the 6th season and make some of the loose ends tied.

*Raph's Girl* · 03-16-2007, 01:32 PM

1. How has Ch'rell became Shredder, subdued the Mystics and founded the Foot Clan?

A: Umm.... dunno?

2. Which one of the Shredders has won the Battle Nexus Tournament?

A: Well in Mirage vol 4 it's Oroku Yoshi!

3. What has Leatherhead been doing between the end of the third season and "Good Genes" episode? Why wasn't he helping TMNT to counter the attack during the "Scion of the Shredder" and “Enter the Dragons”?

A: Um..He was resting and recuperating from falling down a chasm with Hun?

4. What about April's and Renet's meeting in the future?

A: Uh well...maybe she meets Renet for the first time when Renet takes the turtles back to the past?

5. What is April’s origin? Is she a drawing by Kirby that came to live (like in the comic)? Then how comes she has a sister and an uncle Augie?

A: No clue about her origin but Robyn is the biological child of the O'Neil's in the comics and she has a son. Uncle Auggie is obviously the brother of her father...duh. In the original series she had an Aunt Agatha/Aggie. That's who Uncle Auggie is an homage to.

6. Where is the promised "Worms of Madness" incorporation?

A: Um... when the Utrom's building blew up Churel was healed by worms.

7. Will the alien creature from "The Darkness Within" be found and destroyed by Bishop at any time?

A: I too wanna see a return of the nightmare monster!

8. Will we ever know the full story behind “Nightmares Recycled", Garbageman and Hun?

A: No..it's not important to the storyline

9. Now that TMNT were Dragons it would be cool for Dragonlord from Next Mutation to appear…

A: No it wouldn't!!! Maybe Komodo King from Image but not Dragon Lord

10. What about
- Zog: Dead as a doornail..even in the comics
- Clunk: His name is Klunk. Um.. April's taking care of him? I dunno...but he was killed off in an issue of Tales of the TMNT...but lives on in his descendents.
- Rat King: Rumoured to be appearing in Fast Forward
- Touch & Go: They're in Level 33.1 according to Smallville.

- Usagi, Gen, Lord Hebi, Kojima?: Usagi's descendent, Space Usagi (who had his own movie and an action figure in the TMNT action figure line some 12-14 years ago) will be appearing in an upcoming ep of Fast Forward.

9. What does the future brings to:
- Karai & Chaplin: Karai dumps Chaplin when she realizes wants Leo?
- Bishop and Baxter: Watch Fast Forward for Bishop. Hopefully Baxter is dead by 2105
- Hun and the Purple Dragons: Nothing changes for those idiots....but it would be cool to see their descendents in Fast Forward
- Human Acolytes: Uh er uh Raph and Joy live happily ever after!

- Tribunal and the Ancient One: They're probably gonna live forever and ever....
- Renet and Lord Simultaneous: Uh...They're IN the future already!
- April and Casey?: Um.. they get married, found O'Neil tech, have a kid, die...

Tied up loose ends, although a future return is easily possible:

1. Ch’rell is in space
Yea but that don't mean he won't escape from Rura Penthe

2. Traximus and Mozar rule the Triceraton Empire fine
In the comics the Triceratons now consider the TMNT to be great heroes and even have their own version of a TMNT tv series!

3. Nano is a member of the Justice Force
And we saw him in "The Journal"!

4. Nobody is a member of the Justice Force
Yet in the comics he was killed off....

5. Atlantis’ story is over and the Avian Raptarr is a member of Justice Force
No it's not!! The female Atlantian that survived said there were more Atlantis islands out there!

6. The Utroms and Fugitoid are living together in space
I wanna see Fugitoid return...perhaps in Fast Forward??? He came back in the comics...

7. Draco is dead and Battle Nexus world is doing great
Yea...sure...everything's all hunky dory....till the next major problem

The Terror of Death · 03-16-2007, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris

I think Touch and Go probably left town after they got beat by Mikey and Splinter

The last time we saw Touch and Go was when they were kicked into a river by Leo and Mikey. I am not shure if they resurfaced but for all we know they could have drowned. I highly doubt this though.

*Chris* · 03-16-2007, 04:04 PM

Thanks for the update! There are still some episodes in the later part of Season 3 that I haven't seen (plus 1 or 2 episodes of Season 4). I'll catch them now I'm doing my full series run through leading to TLS DVDs. Maybe they did drown, or maybe they just got fed up of getting beaten by turtles and decided to skip town?

*Raph's Girl* · 03-16-2007, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris

Maybe they did drown, or maybe they just got fed up of getting beaten by turtles and decided to skip town?

Last I saw em they were in Smallville imprisoned in Lex Luthor's 33.1 program.

Seriously...there were a pair of brothers who had the same powers as Touch and Go in Smallville!

*Chris* · 03-17-2007, 10:18 AM

Think I remember that one, it was earlier this season right?

Hey maybe the TMNT can team up with the JL!

03-15-2007, 05:59 PM	#1
martinitolove Hench Mutant Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 259	Loose ends tied up? Almost! Loose ends tied up? Almost! Here are the untied ones: 1. How has Ch'rell became Shredder, subdued the Mystics and founded the Foot Clan? 2. Which one of the Shredders has won the Battle Nexus Tournament? 3. What has Leatherhead been doing between the end of the third season and "Good Genes" episode? Why wasn't he helping TMNT to counter the attack during the "Scion of the Shredder" and “Enter the Dragons”? 4. What about April's and Renet's meeting in the future? 5. What is April’s origin? Is she a drawing by Kirby that came to live (like in the comic)? Then how comes she has a sister and an uncle Augie? 6. Where is the promised "Worms of Madness" incorporation? Plot: a Foot Mystic resurrects the colony worms that were used to clone Shredder and manifests them into a huge amphibious creature thing that kidnaps Splinter and puts a reversing spell on the Turtles causing them to become the opposites of themselves. In other words, Leo is a goof, Mikey is all serious, Raph is a wimp, and Don is a dumbass. 7. Will the alien creature from "The Darkness Within" be found and destroyed by Bishop at any time? 8. Will we ever know the full story behind “Nightmares Recycled", Garbageman and Hun? 9. Now that TMNT were Dragons it would be cool for Dragonlord from Next Mutation to appear… 10. What about - Zog, - Clunk, - Rat King, - Touch & Go, - Usagi, Gen, Lord Hebi, Kojima? 9. What does the future brings to: - Karai & Chaplin - Bishop and Baxter - Hun and the Purple Dragons - Human Acolytes - Tribunal and the Ancient One - Renet and Lord Simultaneous - April and Casey? Tied up loose ends, although a future return is easily possible: 1. Ch’rell is in space 2. Traximus and Mozar rule the Triceraton Empire fine 3. Nano is a member of the Justice Force 4. Nobody is a member of the Justice Force 5. Atlantis’ story is over and the Avian Raptarr is a member of Justice Force 6. The Utroms and Fugitoid are living together in space 7. Draco is dead and Battle Nexus world is doing great PS: take a look at my previous post regarding things after the end of season four: http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/sho...ighlight=klunk

03-15-2007, 06:03 PM	#2
Revan Han Shot First Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Paper Street Soap Company Posts: 3,687	From your list, I would most like to see Renet and April's scenario. __________________

03-15-2007, 10:08 PM	#5
Leonardo_Warrior_Turtle Stone Warrior Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 858	It's amazing the amount of loose ends the series has. That's why they at least should of done a complete ending to all of that before jumping into Fast Forward. I mean Enter the Dragons Part II is a great finale to 2k3 but all those loose ends untied makes me cringe. Maybe we should campaign for some direct to DVD TMNT 2k3 movies. __________________

03-16-2007, 01:32 PM	#10
Raph's Girl Dierna Soul, Reporter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Jakku Posts: 10,831	1. How has Ch'rell became Shredder, subdued the Mystics and founded the Foot Clan? A: Umm.... dunno? 2. Which one of the Shredders has won the Battle Nexus Tournament? A: Well in Mirage vol 4 it's Oroku Yoshi! 3. What has Leatherhead been doing between the end of the third season and "Good Genes" episode? Why wasn't he helping TMNT to counter the attack during the "Scion of the Shredder" and “Enter the Dragons”? A: Um..He was resting and recuperating from falling down a chasm with Hun? 4. What about April's and Renet's meeting in the future? A: Uh well...maybe she meets Renet for the first time when Renet takes the turtles back to the past? 5. What is April’s origin? Is she a drawing by Kirby that came to live (like in the comic)? Then how comes she has a sister and an uncle Augie? A: No clue about her origin but Robyn is the biological child of the O'Neil's in the comics and she has a son. Uncle Auggie is obviously the brother of her father...duh. In the original series she had an Aunt Agatha/Aggie. That's who Uncle Auggie is an homage to. 6. Where is the promised "Worms of Madness" incorporation? A: Um... when the Utrom's building blew up Churel was healed by worms. 7. Will the alien creature from "The Darkness Within" be found and destroyed by Bishop at any time? A: I too wanna see a return of the nightmare monster! 8. Will we ever know the full story behind “Nightmares Recycled", Garbageman and Hun? A: No..it's not important to the storyline 9. Now that TMNT were Dragons it would be cool for Dragonlord from Next Mutation to appear… A: No it wouldn't!!! Maybe Komodo King from Image but not Dragon Lord 10. What about - Zog: Dead as a doornail..even in the comics - Clunk: His name is Klunk. Um.. April's taking care of him? I dunno...but he was killed off in an issue of Tales of the TMNT...but lives on in his descendents. - Rat King: Rumoured to be appearing in Fast Forward - Touch & Go: They're in Level 33.1 according to Smallville. - Usagi, Gen, Lord Hebi, Kojima?: Usagi's descendent, Space Usagi (who had his own movie and an action figure in the TMNT action figure line some 12-14 years ago) will be appearing in an upcoming ep of Fast Forward. 9. What does the future brings to: - Karai & Chaplin: Karai dumps Chaplin when she realizes wants Leo? - Bishop and Baxter: Watch Fast Forward for Bishop. Hopefully Baxter is dead by 2105 - Hun and the Purple Dragons: Nothing changes for those idiots....but it would be cool to see their descendents in Fast Forward - Human Acolytes: Uh er uh Raph and Joy live happily ever after! - Tribunal and the Ancient One: They're probably gonna live forever and ever.... - Renet and Lord Simultaneous: Uh...They're IN the future already! - April and Casey?: Um.. they get married, found O'Neil tech, have a kid, die... Tied up loose ends, although a future return is easily possible: 1. Ch’rell is in space Yea but that don't mean he won't escape from Rura Penthe 2. Traximus and Mozar rule the Triceraton Empire fine In the comics the Triceratons now consider the TMNT to be great heroes and even have their own version of a TMNT tv series! 3. Nano is a member of the Justice Force And we saw him in "The Journal"! 4. Nobody is a member of the Justice Force Yet in the comics he was killed off.... 5. Atlantis’ story is over and the Avian Raptarr is a member of Justice Force No it's not!! The female Atlantian that survived said there were more Atlantis islands out there! 6. The Utroms and Fugitoid are living together in space I wanna see Fugitoid return...perhaps in Fast Forward??? He came back in the comics... 7. Draco is dead and Battle Nexus world is doing great Yea...sure...everything's all hunky dory....till the next major problem __________________

03-16-2007, 03:01 AM	#7
Chris Mad Scientist Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: UK Posts: 1,898	I've not seen the TLS episodes that didn't air On Demand yet (still working my way through the DVDs rest of the series in order before I watch all of TLS) but I'll answer as best I can. These answers will contain SPOILERS. 1. This could be a great multipart episode like Secret Origins, though I suppose it works just as well as an unanswered mystery. He probably heard the story and took the name and armor to inspire fear and either made or obtained the Heart of Tengu (was this actually a remaining part of the original demon Shredder before he merged with Oroku Saki?) and used that to subdue the mystics. 2. I'm guessing the original/real Saki before he became evil and joined with the demon Tengu Shredder. 3. No idea, maybe he was away research Utrom tech and trying to rebuild a transmat to get home to the Utroms? Or maybe he has built a transmat (or been given one by the Utroms) and was off world visiting them? 4. I'm guessing that was hinting at April's origin and it would have been a future story that will now probably never get made. 5. I think it was intended to be the same as in the comics, she was drawn by her father using Kirby's crystal and a lot of will power. Though I don't think they would have gone into detials like unable to have children (too much info for a kids show and it contradicts Fast Forward) 6. In all honesty I think the promised "Worms of Madness" adaptation for Season 4 was what eventually became the Season 5 real Shredder storyline. 7. Probably already done off camera. 8. Nope, best we can hope for is script and/or storyboards to be included on the DVD set or on the official site after the US release of TLS. 9. Not if Peter Laird has his way. Done right I think Dragon Lord could be ok, but I just can't see it happening (just as I doubt the TMNT will become dragons again after TLS) 10. Zog's dead, Clunk is probably in the lair somewhere (he can't be dead in TMNT time it's been less than a year since Mikey found him), Rat King is still lurking in the shadows somewhere, I think Touch and Go probably left town after they got beat by Mikey and Splinter, Usagi and his friends are still around in their own world, Karai is probably running the Foot justly now (with Chaplin helping her), Bishop is being Bishop and with any luck Baxter will soon die, Hun and the Dragons are probably a petty street gang being hunted by Karai's good Foot, the Human Acolytes return to their normal lives like the TMNT did, the Tribunal return to Japan and rebuild their temple, April and Casey will hopefully get married (I really wanted TLS to end with a proposal) and eventually have a daughter called Shadow. That's my guesses anyway!

03-16-2007, 01:10 PM	#9
~~LogicDonny~~ Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,643	It is a shame that the loose ends is questioned in many shows.. sometimes we never get to see it happen. I hope the writers contuine the show in the 6th season and make some of the loose ends tied.

03-16-2007, 04:04 PM	#12
Chris Mad Scientist Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: UK Posts: 1,898	Thanks for the update! There are still some episodes in the later part of Season 3 that I haven't seen (plus 1 or 2 episodes of Season 4). I'll catch them now I'm doing my full series run through leading to TLS DVDs. Maybe they did drown, or maybe they just got fed up of getting beaten by turtles and decided to skip town?

03-17-2007, 10:18 AM	#14
Chris Mad Scientist Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: UK Posts: 1,898	Think I remember that one, it was earlier this season right? Hey maybe the TMNT can team up with the JL!