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Old 03-26-2007, 11:59 AM   #81
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Yeah, looks like.

I was under the impression that this thread was for an honest discussion of the film. But, I guess honesty is not warranted here. So, with that, I will take my leave of this thread.

Have a good one.
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Old 03-26-2007, 12:40 PM   #82
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You're allowed honest discussion, but I think this thread is about celebration, not criticisms.

BTW, I am truly sorry for posting agreement on this thread; I saw what he posted and agreed with some of his statements without thinking about which thread I was in.
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Old 03-26-2007, 01:08 PM   #83
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No harm done dudes. Not to the the person who created this thread anyway.
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Old 03-26-2007, 01:18 PM   #84
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You're allowed honest discussion, but I think this thread is about celebration, not criticisms.

BTW, I am truly sorry for posting agreement on this thread; I saw what he posted and agreed with some of his statements without thinking about which thread I was in.
Don't think there's any need to apologise. The movie is not to everyone's taste, but that doesn't mean it destroys all love of the turtles.

We are lucky fans!
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Old 04-10-2007, 03:25 AM   #85
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How shall I say this?

I was a fan of TMNT from the 80's. We were poor, and my parents are taking care of 7 kids (four of them in highschool), so I never had the luxury of buying the original comics, and am blissfully unaware of the "dark, mature" storytelling of that medium. Heck, I didn't even bother the Archie version, because I have a thing against Ninjara, a mary sue who nabbed Raph.

Anyways, I digress...

I got a taste of that dark, gritty environment in the live action movie. And even though I followed the 2nd and 3rd movie, I was growing up as well... and began thinking that TMNT are generally... silly (Ninja Rap isn't helping and the third movie was plain awful).

And so they disappeared from my radar when I myself became a highschool student, shrugging off TMNT as a childhood thing that I have to let go of. I never followed the new cartoon. I tried, but I couldn't attach to the series at all.

In fact the reason I've decided to even watch the new movie is because of Mako, who voiced Iroh in Avatar the Last Airbender, a series that I genuinely liked. I wanted to hear his last work.

Imagine my surprise that TMNT is such a great movie, with wonderful interactions of these familiar characters with feeling and seriousness, that I find myself being a fan again.

So the movie may not break CGI boundaries, nor its story Lord of the Rings-esque, but it brought me back home, to a time when as a child, TMNT is the coolest thing ever and not embittered by the franchise's commercialism.

And I'll always be grateful to Kevin Munroe for making this movie.

From a prodigal fan, cheers to you. And yes, the loyal fans are very lucky indeed.

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Old 04-10-2007, 04:25 AM   #86
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Imagine my surprise that TMNT is such a great movie, with wonderful interactions of these familiar characters with feeling and seriousness, that I find myself being a fan again.

So the movie may not break CGI boundaries, nor its story Lord of the Rings-esque, but it brought me back home, to a time when as a child, TMNT is the coolest thing ever and not embittered by the franchise's commercialism.

And I'll always be grateful to Kevin Munroe for making this movie.

From a prodigal fan, cheers to you. And yes, the loyal fans are very lucky indeed.
Bingo. Me too.

The plot was bogus in this movie, but I couldn't have cared less. The Turtles were cooler than they've been in years and it just ruled, all the way through. The only way this animalistic beast of a movie could have been better would be if they had given ol' Shred-Head another blast.

SEQUEL! SEQUEL! SEQUEL! SEQUEL!
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I so wanted Shredder to be back! Let it not be Karai, please! We want Oroku Saki! Karai can be his right hand man,er..woman.
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Old 04-10-2007, 11:45 AM   #88
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I so wanted Shredder to be back! Let it not be Karai, please! We want Oroku Saki! Karai can be his right hand man,er..woman.
I love Karai. Now that she is in charge, the foot can actually fight. The foot was pathetic in movie 1 and 2 as far as fighting and stealth goes.
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Actually I feel the Foot should be tweaked up a bit. The canon fodder of Avatar's Firebenders gave the main characters a bit of trouble because they're outnumbered. It should have been the same in that final showdown.

Although to be fair, the Turtles were making a run for it, instead of taking them all at once in the movie. Plus the Foot did effectively captured most of the monsters.

But yeah, I liked how Karai managed the Clan overall. In fact this version made me a Karai fan (the new cartoon gets a meh from me). Hope she gets a substantial role.
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But yeah, I liked how Karai managed the Clan overall. In fact this version made me a Karai fan (the new cartoon gets a meh from me). Hope she gets a substantial role.
Here's hoping we get a scene in the sequel where a legion of Foot soldiers (headed by Karai or Shredder) uncover the Turtles' lair and blow it to smithereens, like in "Scion of the Shredder." That was one of my favourite episodes of all time.
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No way man, I totally dig the TMNT's new lair!
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No way man, I totally dig the TMNT's new lair!
Well, I do too, but that would make a kick-*ss scene, no?
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^ How would you do the scene?
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I have to admit, it would. But then we'd have Secret of the Ooze all over again lookin for a new sewer house.
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Wait, didn't the old Live Action have a train in that lair?

I liked the new lair as well. Circular, and quite orderly.
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Wait, didn't the old Live Action have a train in that lair?

I liked the new lair as well. Circular, and quite orderly.
It appears to be the same lair from 2k3
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Is it? I could have sworn that it looks slightly different.

The first thing you see in the Turtles' lair in the new toon is their "ninja training center" with the rest of the rooms spread out. In the movie, it was the living room/TV room, with the rest of the rooms spread out.

I wonder if there's anyone who can make some screenshots of the lair from all incarnations? It'll be fun playing spot the difference.
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Is it? I could have sworn that it looks slightly different.

The first thing you see in the Turtles' lair in the new toon is their "ninja training center" with the rest of the rooms spread out. In the movie, it was the living room/TV room, with the rest of the rooms spread out.

I wonder if there's anyone who can make some screenshots of the lair from all incarnations? It'll be fun playing spot the difference.
Well at the begining of TMNT I got the feel that they don't train anymore. But yes the lair is slightly different but I have a feeling the idea for the layout is from 2k3
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You're right, Neutrino. According to the novelization, they don't train anymore. Don's too busy building/fixing things, Mike's got a job that wears him out (literally), and Raph getting his workout beating the snot out of thugs.

Leo even gets pissed about it in the book, which leads to the whole "ninja tag" sequence that we don't get to see in the film.
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But yeah, I liked how Karai managed the Clan overall. In fact this version made me a Karai fan (the new cartoon gets a meh from me). Hope she gets a substantial role.
yeah, I like Karai too in the movie.At first I don't like her but after viewing several times, her accent and her style is sooo.....sophisticated.Beautiful and elegant. But I doubt her strength though

- When she threaten WInters with her sword, Winters merely push her sword away with no fear at all

- Leonardo dodge her attacks. Really now, for a Foot Clan member like The Shredder, who beat the crap out of Leo and the turtles, Karai is a bit weak.

- April manage to hold Karai's attack and finally giving a kick blow before running away. Oh, come on. She's a tv reporter all her life and just recently get into martial arts How can she beat up Karai? Or is it because Karai is *weak*?
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