Mikey in the new series - Page 3

~~Tokka-B~~ · 02-13-2003, 06:44 PM

I really wouldn't consider this great literature...this is more like script for a cartoon. The writers don't expect people to go that deep into the character or story...I bet you also know some secret about SpongeBob and Patrick, right?

*Stone Ill* · 02-13-2003, 06:47 PM

They are fraternal twin cousins.

*heretic888* · 02-13-2003, 06:47 PM

what?? I am referring to the comic, you know....

geez, what the hell is your problem?? do you have to start **** whenever someone isn't being shallow like you??

~~Tokka-B~~ · 02-13-2003, 06:54 PM

Exactly...it is just a comic book, it isn't ernest hemingway or anyone like that, geez...

And if disagreeing with you is starting poop, then it is your problem to deal with...I also believe that the moderators have warned people not to curse, so many people have been speaking so carelessly lately...it must be tough to be a mod....

*Kameko* · 02-13-2003, 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tokka

I really wouldn't consider this great literature...this is more like script for a cartoon. The writers don't expect people to go that deep into the character or story...I bet you also know some secret about SpongeBob and Patrick, right?

Erm... supposedly they're gay.

~~Tokka-B~~ · 02-13-2003, 07:10 PM

Alright, I didn't mean it literally guys...just a joke...how did you hear about that one Kameko?

*Kameko* · 02-13-2003, 07:21 PM

The local paper. In about three different articles. No kidding.

Shadow · 02-14-2003, 11:47 AM

who's gay? spongebob? i never would have guessed

actually...i would have

Courk · 04-15-2007, 11:06 AM

Yeah, I'm bumping an old thread (one that seems to have veered way off topic), but since I'm starting with the new toon, I found a thread that had the same subject without 4 years of extra info that I don't know much about yet

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So far I've seen Eps 1 and 3 (2 was skipped for some reason). One thing I found interesting about Mikey in the first episode is that he repeats exactly what Splinter said earlier to Raph. Though Mikey may not seem like he's paying full attention, I think he really is.

The line I'm talking about first occurs when they're all trying to put out the candle. After Raph tries, Splinter says "Poor choice, Raphael."

Later, when the 3 turtles are calling for Raph to hide behind the building, yet Raph jumps into the truck, Mikey says "Poor choice, Raphael."

I found it interesting that even though Mikey was crumpled in a corner after his failed attempt when Splinter first uttered the line, he was still paying attention. My impression of him so far is that, though he may seem like a goof, he is learning in his own way.

MAESTAS · 04-15-2007, 11:14 AM

Mikey is funny, and I like him the best in Fast Forward.

*triplexxx* · 04-15-2007, 11:19 AM

He's not my favorite....I don't have a favorite turtle, never will.
He can act dumb at times, but truth is, he's pretty smart considering he can hold his own as a ninja....he's very talented and can formulate strategies by thinking outside the box (ie: when he swallowed the key card in Turtles in Space 3, or when he guided Leonardo in handling Touch and Go in Nobody's Fool).

ninjitsu_magic_47 · 04-15-2007, 05:35 PM

I agree, Mikey is smarter then people give him credit for. In Touch and Go he formulated the plan with the subway, and in Reality Check he made a plane that was fairly tricky, I was pretty impressed by it.

Mikey would be a good leader if he didn't goof around so much. But if he stopped, he wouldn't be Mikey anymore.

*Revan* · 04-15-2007, 09:58 PM

I love mike but I thought it was a bit unfair that he gets to goof off all the time and still move to chunin with his brothers. so he passed a test, big deal. it was so easy. if all the turtles had to do was pass a test, why doesn't splinter just administer the test to them all. ah, mike, you slacker

*Sage Ninja* · 04-20-2007, 11:47 AM

wow, what a great thread and one that was made back when the series first came out. It is interesting that Michaelangelo's character in as earlier as the first few episodes started such a contraversy on how his character was treated. And its interesting to read all the reactions of the people on here from four years ago and there first impressions on Mike in the new toon. It seems that most of them liked his character and thought it was funny and "more real".

Now that the 2k3 series is over and there was a good five seasons to flesh Mikey out, do you all feel the same way about Mikey being funny and cool? Or do you feel that through out his series he has become more and more annoying and immature to like as a result?

Persoanlly when I first saw this series it took the better half of season one to get me to like his character since it was so diffrent from his old toon persona. But I eventually came to like him and accept him for his new personality and quirks. I think Mikey in this incarnations has given me the most mixed feelings about him than any other turtle in this series. I ranged from not liking where the writters where going with his character to sort of liking the depth and evoloution that seemed to peak out in his character in certain episodes.

Over-all I think Michaelangelo slowly advanced through out the seasons but mostly stayed the same. i think the most advancement he got was in seasons three and four (haven't seen season five aka: Ninja Tribunal). Where he they seemed to give a least one or two in depth episodes Like (Grudge Match) but to be honest I wish they had gone a bit further and not comprimised his charqcter so much for comic relief. there where many times where I felt he was just a filler character and the other turtles where just character evolving and plot driveing characters. Which I don't think is right because the stoary should be about all four of them not just three.

*Tinuvielsdreams* · 04-20-2007, 11:59 AM

Mikey is Mikey, he gets the job done when he needs to but there is nothing wrong with having a lot of fun...right?

A good example was Touch and go...Its just him and Splinter and he comes up with a plan that gets them out of a bad situation...Mikey says he likes this using my mind thing
Splinter says...yes it is a brave new world for you....

My new fave Mikey moment was a FF eppy (Yes I said it)
the Fly to the moon one where they run into the Gunjin again. He has that Raph puppet with him the whole time through the entire episode and as you watch it it pops up in the background or on his back and he does some really funny stuff with it...

Mikey is also good for some comic relief and you just have to like the guy..unless he brings up his battle nexus trophy...

*triplexxx* · 04-20-2007, 12:06 PM

Michaelangelo proved to be a good deal more than comic relief. He was smart, capable, and in every major battle a good contributor to the team. Not to mention, he actually got visible fame/glory for his accomplishments: the trophy and medal for his Battle Nexus victory, two statues erected in his honor (Battle Nexus & Reality Check), and

Spoiler:

. I think the new series did a good job focusing on all four of them and was never over-centric on anyone.

*Tinuvielsdreams* · 04-20-2007, 12:21 PM

Spoiler:

No but really he is a good fighter to and he did win the nexus re match all on his own..

Fledermaus · 04-20-2007, 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neutrino

I love mike but I thought it was a bit unfair that he gets to goof off all the time and still move to chunin with his brothers. so he passed a test, big deal. it was so easy. if all the turtles had to do was pass a test, why doesn't splinter just administer the test to them all. ah, mike, you slacker

Except he realized that he didn't deserve the promotion. He felt guilty, shamed that he didn't have as great of a challenge (since it wasn't long term) compared to his brothers.

However, relative to his own personal weaknesses, he admitted with humility to himself and to everyone that he had a problem. That was a huge step for him and for that Splinter advanced him to chunin. What does Mikey do at the end of the episode? He trains without being a responsible elder or peer ordering him to do so.

Those who are inclined to pursue their "passions" will always have that monster/temptation to fight with. But awareness of that problem is a sign of maturity. As Michelangelo grows more mature he will find ways to work around his negative tendencies instead of letting them drive him, preventing him from fully realizing his potential.

Every person who is easily distracted/has trouble staying on task can relate.

bullet · 04-20-2007, 01:46 PM

ionno about anyone else, but he did make me laugh...maybe at least once per episode. i mean, if not for the way he acts, then for the way that donnie or raph respond to him. raph's expressions like "words fail me" etc still make me laugh like an idiot at a cartoon.

teletran · 04-20-2007, 02:23 PM

I think a lot of the time, at least at first, they were using the character of Michelangelo to poke fun at the old cartoon.

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02-13-2003, 06:47 PM	#43
heretic888 Foot Elite Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,344	.... what?? I am referring to the comic, you know.... geez, what the hell is your problem?? do you have to start **** whenever someone isn't being shallow like you?? __________________ "Ninpo began as training to become a moral people and to learn to endure in whatever social condition one is in; to know and accept one's fate, and to live for human beings and all other creatures. The person who masters all of these is a Ninja." (Masaaki Hatsumi)

04-15-2007, 11:14 AM	#50
MAESTAS Foot Soldier Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: USA Posts: 100	Mikey is funny, and I like him the best in Fast Forward. __________________ http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm...endid=69240289

04-15-2007, 11:19 AM	#51
triplexxx Mad Scientist Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,809	He's not my favorite....I don't have a favorite turtle, never will. He can act dumb at times, but truth is, he's pretty smart considering he can hold his own as a ninja....he's very talented and can formulate strategies by thinking outside the box (ie: when he swallowed the key card in Turtles in Space 3, or when he guided Leonardo in handling Touch and Go in Nobody's Fool). __________________ Please don't shoot me Mr. Big Mike. I'm too young and good-looking to die, well too young. I got a father, I got a mother, I got a grandmother, I got a little sister...and a little brother this high (raises hand), and a little brother this high (lowers hand), and little brother this high (lowers hand), and a little brother this high (lowers hand), and a little brother this high (lowers hand) and then I got a great big brother this high (slaps gun and runs). "Fright Night" - Three Stooges

04-15-2007, 09:58 PM	#53
Revan Han Shot First Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Paper Street Soap Company Posts: 3,687	I love mike but I thought it was a bit unfair that he gets to goof off all the time and still move to chunin with his brothers. so he passed a test, big deal. it was so easy. if all the turtles had to do was pass a test, why doesn't splinter just administer the test to them all. ah, mike, you slacker __________________

02-13-2003, 06:44 PM	#41
~~Tokka-B~~ Banned Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Lost Sewer Posts: 1,829	I really wouldn't consider this great literature...this is more like script for a cartoon. The writers don't expect people to go that deep into the character or story...I bet you also know some secret about SpongeBob and Patrick, right?

02-13-2003, 06:47 PM	#42
Stone Ill Mad Scientist Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Burlington, Ontario Posts: 2,397	They are fraternal twin cousins.

02-13-2003, 06:54 PM	#44
~~Tokka-B~~ Banned Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Lost Sewer Posts: 1,829	Exactly...it is just a comic book, it isn't ernest hemingway or anyone like that, geez... And if disagreeing with you is starting poop, then it is your problem to deal with...I also believe that the moderators have warned people not to curse, so many people have been speaking so carelessly lately...it must be tough to be a mod....

02-13-2003, 07:10 PM	#46
~~Tokka-B~~ Banned Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: The Lost Sewer Posts: 1,829	Alright, I didn't mean it literally guys...just a joke...how did you hear about that one Kameko?

02-13-2003, 07:21 PM	#47
Kameko Sister to the TMNT Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Los Angeles, California, USA Posts: 2,756	The local paper. In about three different articles. No kidding.

02-14-2003, 11:47 AM	#48
Shadow Hench Mutant Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 489	who's gay? spongebob? i never would have guessed actually...i would have

04-15-2007, 11:06 AM	#49
Courk Hench Mutant Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 321	Yeah, I'm bumping an old thread (one that seems to have veered way off topic), but since I'm starting with the new toon, I found a thread that had the same subject without 4 years of extra info that I don't know much about yet . So far I've seen Eps 1 and 3 (2 was skipped for some reason). One thing I found interesting about Mikey in the first episode is that he repeats exactly what Splinter said earlier to Raph. Though Mikey may not seem like he's paying full attention, I think he really is. The line I'm talking about first occurs when they're all trying to put out the candle. After Raph tries, Splinter says "Poor choice, Raphael." Later, when the 3 turtles are calling for Raph to hide behind the building, yet Raph jumps into the truck, Mikey says "Poor choice, Raphael." I found it interesting that even though Mikey was crumpled in a corner after his failed attempt when Splinter first uttered the line, he was still paying attention. My impression of him so far is that, though he may seem like a goof, he is learning in his own way.

04-15-2007, 05:35 PM	#52
ninjitsu_magic_47 Thug Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 79	I agree, Mikey is smarter then people give him credit for. In Touch and Go he formulated the plan with the subway, and in Reality Check he made a plane that was fairly tricky, I was pretty impressed by it. Mikey would be a good leader if he didn't goof around so much. But if he stopped, he wouldn't be Mikey anymore.

04-20-2007, 11:47 AM	#54
Sage Ninja Band of the Hawk Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: USA Posts: 3,924	wow, what a great thread and one that was made back when the series first came out. It is interesting that Michaelangelo's character in as earlier as the first few episodes started such a contraversy on how his character was treated. And its interesting to read all the reactions of the people on here from four years ago and there first impressions on Mike in the new toon. It seems that most of them liked his character and thought it was funny and "more real". Now that the 2k3 series is over and there was a good five seasons to flesh Mikey out, do you all feel the same way about Mikey being funny and cool? Or do you feel that through out his series he has become more and more annoying and immature to like as a result? Persoanlly when I first saw this series it took the better half of season one to get me to like his character since it was so diffrent from his old toon persona. But I eventually came to like him and accept him for his new personality and quirks. I think Mikey in this incarnations has given me the most mixed feelings about him than any other turtle in this series. I ranged from not liking where the writters where going with his character to sort of liking the depth and evoloution that seemed to peak out in his character in certain episodes. Over-all I think Michaelangelo slowly advanced through out the seasons but mostly stayed the same. i think the most advancement he got was in seasons three and four (haven't seen season five aka: Ninja Tribunal). Where he they seemed to give a least one or two in depth episodes Like (Grudge Match) but to be honest I wish they had gone a bit further and not comprimised his charqcter so much for comic relief. there where many times where I felt he was just a filler character and the other turtles where just character evolving and plot driveing characters. Which I don't think is right because the stoary should be about all four of them not just three. __________________ Cassandra: You won't fight me, but will you fight--for him! Cassandra's Revenge ~Tangled the Series ________________________________ http://frankviola.org/2012/01/30/godsviewofawoman/ _______________________________ http://nox-artemis.tumblr.com/post/4...k-and-feminism

04-20-2007, 11:59 AM	#55
Tinuvielsdreams Nothing without passion Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 1,722	Mikey is Mikey, he gets the job done when he needs to but there is nothing wrong with having a lot of fun...right? A good example was Touch and go...Its just him and Splinter and he comes up with a plan that gets them out of a bad situation...Mikey says he likes this using my mind thing Splinter says...yes it is a brave new world for you.... My new fave Mikey moment was a FF eppy (Yes I said it) the Fly to the moon one where they run into the Gunjin again. He has that Raph puppet with him the whole time through the entire episode and as you watch it it pops up in the background or on his back and he does some really funny stuff with it... Mikey is also good for some comic relief and you just have to like the guy..unless he brings up his battle nexus trophy...

04-20-2007, 12:06 PM	#56
triplexxx Mad Scientist Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,809	Michaelangelo proved to be a good deal more than comic relief. He was smart, capable, and in every major battle a good contributor to the team. Not to mention, he actually got visible fame/glory for his accomplishments: the trophy and medal for his Battle Nexus victory, two statues erected in his honor (Battle Nexus & Reality Check), and Spoiler: an actual membership in the Justice League in Membership Drive . I think the new series did a good job focusing on all four of them and was never over-centric on anyone. __________________ Please don't shoot me Mr. Big Mike. I'm too young and good-looking to die, well too young. I got a father, I got a mother, I got a grandmother, I got a little sister...and a little brother this high (raises hand), and a little brother this high (lowers hand), and little brother this high (lowers hand), and a little brother this high (lowers hand), and a little brother this high (lowers hand) and then I got a great big brother this high (slaps gun and runs). "Fright Night" - Three Stooges

04-20-2007, 12:21 PM	#57
Tinuvielsdreams Nothing without passion Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 1,722	Spoiler: Yep her gets to work every something Wednesday of every forth month and leap year when there is one...lol No but really he is a good fighter to and he did win the nexus re match all on his own..

04-20-2007, 01:46 PM	#59
bullet Stone Warrior Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 739	ionno about anyone else, but he did make me laugh...maybe at least once per episode. i mean, if not for the way he acts, then for the way that donnie or raph respond to him. raph's expressions like "words fail me" etc still make me laugh like an idiot at a cartoon. __________________ ...and that's how they defeated the thing that wouldn't leave.

04-20-2007, 02:23 PM	#60
teletran Random Punk Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: perth, western australia Posts: 46	I think a lot of the time, at least at first, they were using the character of Michelangelo to poke fun at the old cartoon.