Rage Against The Machine returns - Audioslave no more

**Barkworm** · 02-21-2007, 06:41 AM

Kind of old news but I thought I could start a thread about it anyway.
I loved both RATM and Soundgarden but Audioslave simply wasn't that great, especially their development towards a more pop-rock based sound bugged me.

*Anarky* · 02-21-2007, 07:14 AM

I was a big RATM-fan, but Audioslave just felt like... lukewarm coffee. Trying too hard at perfecting a thing that didn't need an improvement. But some songs were rather nice, I must admit. They just lacked the je-ne-sais-quoi that RATM had.

**Barkworm** · 02-21-2007, 07:29 AM

To me it seemed like the Rage guys thought with a "real" singer like Cornell they could write more melodic rock tunes. And they just weren't that good at it.

**GK Punk** · 02-21-2007, 01:42 PM

I actually liked the first album, but nothing since then.

**Barkworm** · 02-21-2007, 02:01 PM

Yeah, me too. I'm looking forward to both the Rage reunion as well as Cornell's solo album though.

EDIT: I'm listening to an acoustic gig Cornell did last year and DAMN! I had almost forgotten what an incredible singer he is. Do yourself a favour and check this sh*t out.

**GK Punk** · 02-21-2007, 03:30 PM

I was actually listening to RATM's first album a few days ago for the first time in a few years. I forgot how great that album was. Easily my favorite of their stuff as well.

**Barkworm** · 02-21-2007, 03:39 PM

I actually didn't own the first RATM album till like three weeks ago. Amazing album. My favourite track is probably "Take the power back". I love the bass line on that one.

PaulKersey · 03-08-2007, 10:23 AM

To be honest, i dont mind. Audioslave made a fine album in 2002, but the two other cds aint very impressive.

Tabularasa · 04-16-2007, 11:58 AM

I was never a RATM fan so it didn't bother me, and Cornell is a good enough singer. I love their first album and the second wasn't so bad but their latest was a dissapointment.

**Barkworm** · 04-16-2007, 12:03 PM

"Good enough"??? BLASPHEMY!!!!!!

Tabularasa · 04-19-2007, 09:13 PM

lol, Cornell is def. one of the best singers right now in rock but I mean for the kind of songs Audioslave was doing, Cornell was a good fit.

Stimor · 04-21-2007, 06:39 PM

and they ripped metallica off with one of their songs, hiss i tell ye!

**GK Punk** · 04-21-2007, 08:53 PM

That's okay, Metallica Ripped off a Megadeth song or two in their day so it's only fair

Stimor · 04-22-2007, 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michi heavenly6

That's okay, Metallica Ripped off a Megadeth song or two in their day so it's only fair

even though the lead singer of megadeth was in metallica and i think there is some confusion in ye heart, brains and the left leg from the right. naming them songs would be nice and it by no logic is fair

*KROW* · 04-22-2007, 07:10 PM

I think the fairness of which Michi is speaking is that Audioslave ripped off Metallica, who ripped off Megadeth, thereby making it a sort of karmaic retribution. As for the actual songs, I'm not sure what they are. All I can think of are the songs Mustaine helped compose that are accredited to Metallica in their first two albums.

Those songs being:
"The Four Horsemen"
"Jump in the Fire"
"Phantom Lord"
"Metal Militia"
"Ride the Lightning"
"The Call of Ktulu"

**GK Punk** · 04-22-2007, 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KROW

I think the fairness of which Michi is speaking is that Audioslave ripped off Metallica, who ripped off Megadeth, thereby making it a sort of karmaic retribution. As for the actual songs, I'm not sure what they are. All I can think of are the songs Mustaine helped compose that are accredited to Metallica in their first two albums.

Those songs being:
"The Four Horsemen"
"Jump in the Fire"
"Phantom Lord"
"Metal Militia"
"Ride the Lightning"
"The Call of Ktulu"

Yep, that was basically the joke I was going for. That and there was a song on the black album that had the same bassline as Megadeth's "Dawn patrol" that was released on Rust in peace one year earlier.

**Barkworm** · 04-23-2007, 01:22 AM

Also "The Four Horsemen" was actually written by Mustaine alone, Hetfield and Ulrich just changed the lyrics and added a new bridge to get writing credits.

Stimor · 04-23-2007, 03:08 AM

so metallica did not rip anything from megadeth, simply had songs that mustaine helped to compose when he was in metallica. thus, being metallica songs! there was no megadeth +_-

**GK Punk** · 04-23-2007, 03:16 AM

well. there's still the song "The god that failed" (I Think this was the right name, I dont own any metallica albums anymore) That used the same bassline, almost note for note, as Megadeth's "The dawn patrol" a song that came out at least one year before Metallica's version.

Other than that, I was pretty much joking. I forgot how touchy Metallica fans can be over the whole Dave vs Metallica thing.

Stimor · 04-23-2007, 03:40 AM

well it is not my fault it was not true, don't take it out on me

02-21-2007, 06:41 AM	#1
Barkworm Draconian leftist ruler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 6,758	Rage Against The Machine returns - Audioslave no more Kind of old news but I thought I could start a thread about it anyway. I loved both RATM and Soundgarden but Audioslave simply wasn't that great, especially their development towards a more pop-rock based sound bugged me. __________________ Make ****, not kill!

02-21-2007, 07:14 AM	#2
Anarky Outlaw Hero Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Tannhauser Gate Posts: 4,867	I was a big RATM-fan, but Audioslave just felt like... lukewarm coffee. Trying too hard at perfecting a thing that didn't need an improvement. But some songs were rather nice, I must admit. They just lacked the je-ne-sais-quoi that RATM had. __________________ Because it's... I dunno... brutal.

02-21-2007, 07:29 AM	#3
Barkworm Draconian leftist ruler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 6,758	To me it seemed like the Rage guys thought with a "real" singer like Cornell they could write more melodic rock tunes. And they just weren't that good at it. __________________ Make ****, not kill!

02-21-2007, 02:01 PM	#5
Barkworm Draconian leftist ruler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 6,758	Yeah, me too. I'm looking forward to both the Rage reunion as well as Cornell's solo album though. EDIT: I'm listening to an acoustic gig Cornell did last year and DAMN! I had almost forgotten what an incredible singer he is. Do yourself a favour and check this sht out. __________________ Make **, not kill! Last edited by Barkworm; 02-21-2007 at 03:16 PM.*

02-21-2007, 03:39 PM	#7
Barkworm Draconian leftist ruler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 6,758	I actually didn't own the first RATM album till like three weeks ago. Amazing album. My favourite track is probably "Take the power back". I love the bass line on that one. __________________ Make ****, not kill!

02-21-2007, 01:42 PM	#4
GK Punk I'm your Devil Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,439	I actually liked the first album, but nothing since then.

02-21-2007, 03:30 PM	#6
GK Punk I'm your Devil Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,439	I was actually listening to RATM's first album a few days ago for the first time in a few years. I forgot how great that album was. Easily my favorite of their stuff as well.

03-08-2007, 10:23 AM	#8
PaulKersey Mouser Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Norway Posts: 13	To be honest, i dont mind. Audioslave made a fine album in 2002, but the two other cds aint very impressive. __________________ "A .475 Wildey magnum is a shorter version of the African big game cartridge, it makes a real mess."

04-16-2007, 11:58 AM	#9
Tabularasa Foot Soldier Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 106	I was never a RATM fan so it didn't bother me, and Cornell is a good enough singer. I love their first album and the second wasn't so bad but their latest was a dissapointment.

04-16-2007, 12:03 PM	#10
Barkworm Draconian leftist ruler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 6,758	"Good enough"??? BLASPHEMY!!!!!! __________________ Make ****, not kill!

04-19-2007, 09:13 PM	#11
Tabularasa Foot Soldier Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 106	lol, Cornell is def. one of the best singers right now in rock but I mean for the kind of songs Audioslave was doing, Cornell was a good fit.

04-21-2007, 06:39 PM	#12
Stimor Foot Soldier Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Finland Posts: 106	and they ripped metallica off with one of their songs, hiss i tell ye! __________________

04-21-2007, 08:53 PM	#13
GK Punk I'm your Devil Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,439	That's okay, Metallica Ripped off a Megadeth song or two in their day so it's only fair

04-22-2007, 07:10 PM	#15
KROW Meat-n-Potatoes Man Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: State's Anus, NY Posts: 6,472	I think the fairness of which Michi is speaking is that Audioslave ripped off Metallica, who ripped off Megadeth, thereby making it a sort of karmaic retribution. As for the actual songs, I'm not sure what they are. All I can think of are the songs Mustaine helped compose that are accredited to Metallica in their first two albums. Those songs being: "The Four Horsemen" "Jump in the Fire" "Phantom Lord" "Metal Militia" "Ride the Lightning" "The Call of Ktulu" __________________ - Optimus Acid Trip - Cult of a Half-Shell - Raiden's Bitter Tongue - *I don't try to be funny; I fail at it naturally.*

04-23-2007, 01:22 AM	#17
Barkworm Draconian leftist ruler Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 6,758	Also "The Four Horsemen" was actually written by Mustaine alone, Hetfield and Ulrich just changed the lyrics and added a new bridge to get writing credits. __________________ Make ****, not kill!

04-23-2007, 03:08 AM	#18
Stimor Foot Soldier Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Finland Posts: 106	so metallica did not rip anything from megadeth, simply had songs that mustaine helped to compose when he was in metallica. thus, being metallica songs! there was no megadeth +_- __________________

04-23-2007, 03:16 AM	#19
GK Punk I'm your Devil Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,439	well. there's still the song "The god that failed" (I Think this was the right name, I dont own any metallica albums anymore) That used the same bassline, almost note for note, as Megadeth's "The dawn patrol" a song that came out at least one year before Metallica's version. Other than that, I was pretty much joking. I forgot how touchy Metallica fans can be over the whole Dave vs Metallica thing.

04-23-2007, 03:40 AM	#20
Stimor Foot Soldier Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Finland Posts: 106	well it is not my fault it was not true, don't take it out on me __________________