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*VaughnMichael* · 05-12-2007, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Jo Dawn

Yes, I know all this, heh... I guess I should have worded my statement better. Thanks, though. What I meant was, everyone's all 'OMG FF better have an ending'. And no cares about the actual good show. I'm more concerned about seeing the real show and it's ending.

I care about everything and I don't want anything being left without any kind of ending what if 2k3 tmnt get stuck in FF land forever don't forget as much as you loath everything about FF it's still a part of the story that is 2k3 tmnt.
So you better hope and pray they take them back to the present day in the last episode because as much as I've enjoyed the change I do not want them to be in limbo forever I will not have this turn out to be another archie comics.

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Originally Posted by Roseangelo

Well, despite the drastic format change that came with FF, it's still part of the "real" show. I would like to see an episode where the Turtles go home to the present to wrap up the FF storyline, but it seems like we probably won't even get that. Despite my dislike of FF, that bums me.

The lost season has a good ending for that season, although I don't like it as an end to the series. But it doesn't sound like the series on the whole is over, so we'll just have to wait and see what happens.

heh

*Roseangelo* · 05-12-2007, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Putrescent

So you better hope and pray they take them back to the present day in the last episode because as much as I've enjoyed the change I do not want them to be in limbo forever I will not have this turn out to be another archie comics.

I don't think you have to be worried about that. The reason they want to pull out of FF is to get the TMNT back to regular New York. The transition will just be a little awkward. Like how Season 4 ended with "Ninja Tribunal," which obviously had a continuing story line and then all of a sudden 4Kids throws FF at you as if "Ninja Tribunal" never existed. So I would expect the TMNT to be suddenly back in NYC with no explanation or resolution to the whole time travel thing.

*VaughnMichael* · 05-12-2007, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Roseangelo

I don't think you have to be worried about that. The reason they want to pull out of FF is to get the TMNT back to regular New York. The transition will just be a little awkward. Like how Season 4 ended with "Ninja Tribunal," which obviously had a continuing story line and then all of a sudden 4Kids throws FF at you as if "Ninja Tribunal" never existed. So I would expect the TMNT to be suddenly back in NYC with no explanation or resolution to the whole time travel thing.

That is seriously the dumbest thing I've ever friggin heard!
Once again leave it to 4f'nkids and playmates to ruin the turtles they always think they know whats so good for them when they're the ones who screw it up! guh! I'm sorry but I'm just so sick of this.

Chef Boyarquoa · 05-12-2007, 08:03 PM

i'm almost glad FF is getting cancelled, because I much perfer 2k3 era, but I'm worried TMNT as a whole will be pulled from TV which would totally suck!

*VaughnMichael* · 05-12-2007, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Chef Boyarquoa

i'm almost glad FF is getting cancelled, because I much perfer 2k3 era, but I'm worried TMNT as a whole will be pulled from TV which would totally suck!

the thing is FF is 2k3 just dumbed down if it goes it all goes I think thats the thing people aren't getting...boy am I steamed over this I hate when things don't have closure.

*CyberCubed* · 05-12-2007, 09:03 PM

4kids may not care what order they air episodes in, but the individual writers, Lloyd Goldfine and Peter Laird apparently do.

Fast Forward didn't HAVE to show the Turtles in the new lair, or show the Ninja Tribunal in "The Journal" and in "Graduation Day," but they did. The fact that the FF season keeps continuity with the Lost season shows how much the writers care about the ongoing structure of this show, even if 4kids airs them in some whacked out order.

If we are getting a Season 7, I do expect that to at least give us a short recap of how the Turtles got back home to present time. All they really need to do is give a short recap at the beginning, or give a throwaway line from Don saying how Cody fixed the time window, and that's about it. Don't forget that all throughout the season there has been indication that Don/Cody have been working on the time window all along, so its not like it would happen out of nowhere.

My hopes for Season 7:

- Art style returns to 2k3 style, but with a more "movie-like" feel to it
- Turtles return back to the present, we continue where we left off
- Movie elements are introduced in the cartoon such as Raphael becoming the Nightwatcher, maybe Splinter will be redesigned to look more like his movie counterpart, April and Casey start living together, April gets a job, and maybe even have Karai and the Foot redesigned to look like their movie versions?
- They continue adapting comics from the official Mirage continuity
- Its a full 26 episode season, hopefully not a 13 ep season only like the Lost season

That would be likely, I think.

rayfillet101 · 05-12-2007, 09:14 PM

Id love to see nightwatcher, max winters, and the jersey devel in the 2k3 universe. If they bring them back hopefully they can get back to the old quality that we are used to.

*Spitfire* · 05-12-2007, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Jo Dawn

I'm more concerned about seeing the real show and it's ending.

Then watch The Lost Season that's what I was saying. It's the real ending to the series. It wraps up everything into a nice little package.

X · 05-12-2007, 11:23 PM

Man with all this talk, you act as though Murphy said that for sure the show is getting the boot.

Nothing has been decided yet, let's have some optimism, instead of saying, "oh hey 4kids doesn't have faith in their product so we need to bail too."

I have hope.

-X-

ajistheman · 05-12-2007, 11:33 PM

yeah, i REALLY want this show to continue, but like everyone else, it would mean a lot to me if they DO have a conclusion-ish episode that completes the story of this show (which is BOTH 2k3 and FF's stories). Just remember what the comics taught us
"Turtles Die With Honor"

*Buslady* · 05-12-2007, 11:51 PM

I know...they all wake up in the lair "wow that was a bad dream"

*VaughnMichael* · 05-13-2007, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Buslady

I know...they all wake up in the lair "wow that was a bad dream"

No that happend allready in mirage vol.2

Ratchet · 05-13-2007, 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Putrescent

No that happend allready in mirage vol.2

What? No it didn't. Where was this?

*VaughnMichael* · 05-13-2007, 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Ratchet

What? No it didn't. Where was this?

thats how mirage vol. 2 ended leo woke up it was all a dream or wait was it dun dun dun!

Ratchet · 05-13-2007, 03:18 AM

I thought Vol.4 pretty much implied that it all happened, and that Braunze mindwiped them (I'm sure more could've happened, hopefully someone will explain that one in Tales sometime!).

NoPressApril · 05-13-2007, 04:23 AM

I just hope that when the turtles return Viral comes through the time window thing with them. She's such a cool villian.

*Ninjinister* · 05-13-2007, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Ratchet

I thought Vol.4 pretty much implied that it all happened, and that Braunze mindwiped them (I'm sure more could've happened, hopefully someone will explain that one in Tales sometime!).

How would Leo have survived then? He, like, got blown to Kingdom Come.

~~ThemanthatwouldbeRaphael~~ · 05-13-2007, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by The S

How would Leo have survived then? He, like, got blown to Kingdom Come.

I think that was an illusion created by Mr. Braunze.

TheShowstoppa · 05-13-2007, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Spitfire666xXxXx

...and the only reason Punisher did well in DVD sales is because a directors cut came out.

Spit... I normally agree with you on just about everything - however, this assumption would be false. The director's cut that you so speak of came out 2 years after the movie was released. There wouldn't have been a director's cut if the movie hadn't done well on DVD to begin with - remember, the original dvd came with all the deleted scenes as extras. The director's cut came out as a result of the ensuing wait for the sequel. The sequel was announced to be planned not too long after the original DVD came out. Look at the dates between the release of the DVD, the announcing of a sequel, and the release date of the director's cut if you don't believe me.

As for the "You went to see the movie just for there to be a sequel?" comment... NO. I went to see the movie because I was intregued and I'm a huge TMNT fan. There had better be a sequel because A.) The movie made almost double its budget. That alone could warrant it. B.) The DVD sales and rentals have yet to be released, however, when it does happen, and like I predict - and it makes bank on DVD - That alone should warrant the sequel. If the second movie doesn't make more than the original - I wouldn't fault them if they didn't make another one. I'd be first in line to tell them not to because they'd be LOSING money because of it.

FlawedCoil82 · 05-14-2007, 12:27 AM

I am all for Fast Forward ending. I hope it will. I either want the normal 2003 series back or nothing at all. I found FF to be an insult to TMNT. I know it sucks when series end because I was heartbroken when X-Men ended and to this day I've never seen another cartoon I liked more than X-Men (speaking of which they severely need to release that show in a season boxset already!), however TMNT 2003 was a close one. Fast Forward is to Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles what X-Men: Evolution was to X-Men (an insult to the original series).
Jack

05-12-2007, 08:03 PM	#84
Chef Boyarquoa Random Punk Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 47	i'm almost glad FF is getting cancelled, because I much perfer 2k3 era, but I'm worried TMNT as a whole will be pulled from TV which would totally suck! __________________

05-12-2007, 09:14 PM	#87
rayfillet101 Mad Scientist Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: NYC Posts: 1,454	Id love to see nightwatcher, max winters, and the jersey devel in the 2k3 universe. If they bring them back hopefully they can get back to the old quality that we are used to. __________________ "When you scream my name, pleading for the pain to stop, you may call me...Bishop."

05-12-2007, 11:23 PM	#89
X Stone Warrior Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 767	Man with all this talk, you act as though Murphy said that for sure the show is getting the boot. Nothing has been decided yet, let's have some optimism, instead of saying, "oh hey 4kids doesn't have faith in their product so we need to bail too." I have hope. -X- __________________ "Wisemen say, forgiveness is divine, but never pay full price for a late pizza."

05-12-2007, 11:51 PM	#91
Buslady WingsOfDarkness! Perkele! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In 7803... Posts: 4,366	I know...they all wake up in the lair "wow that was a bad dream" __________________

05-12-2007, 09:03 PM	#86
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,829	4kids may not care what order they air episodes in, but the individual writers, Lloyd Goldfine and Peter Laird apparently do. Fast Forward didn't HAVE to show the Turtles in the new lair, or show the Ninja Tribunal in "The Journal" and in "Graduation Day," but they did. The fact that the FF season keeps continuity with the Lost season shows how much the writers care about the ongoing structure of this show, even if 4kids airs them in some whacked out order. If we are getting a Season 7, I do expect that to at least give us a short recap of how the Turtles got back home to present time. All they really need to do is give a short recap at the beginning, or give a throwaway line from Don saying how Cody fixed the time window, and that's about it. Don't forget that all throughout the season there has been indication that Don/Cody have been working on the time window all along, so its not like it would happen out of nowhere. My hopes for Season 7: - Art style returns to 2k3 style, but with a more "movie-like" feel to it - Turtles return back to the present, we continue where we left off - Movie elements are introduced in the cartoon such as Raphael becoming the Nightwatcher, maybe Splinter will be redesigned to look more like his movie counterpart, April and Casey start living together, April gets a job, and maybe even have Karai and the Foot redesigned to look like their movie versions? - They continue adapting comics from the official Mirage continuity - Its a full 26 episode season, hopefully not a 13 ep season only like the Lost season That would be likely, I think.

05-12-2007, 11:33 PM	#90
ajistheman Foot Soldier Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: North Dakota Posts: 121	yeah, i REALLY want this show to continue, but like everyone else, it would mean a lot to me if they DO have a conclusion-ish episode that completes the story of this show (which is BOTH 2k3 and FF's stories). Just remember what the comics taught us "Turtles Die With Honor"

05-13-2007, 03:18 AM	#95
Ratchet Foot Soldier Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 167	I thought Vol.4 pretty much implied that it all happened, and that Braunze mindwiped them (I'm sure more could've happened, hopefully someone will explain that one in Tales sometime!).

05-13-2007, 04:23 AM	#96
NoPressApril Hench Mutant Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: as far away from reality as possible Posts: 307	I just hope that when the turtles return Viral comes through the time window thing with them. She's such a cool villian.

05-14-2007, 12:27 AM	#100
FlawedCoil82 Stone Warrior Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 523	I am all for Fast Forward ending. I hope it will. I either want the normal 2003 series back or nothing at all. I found FF to be an insult to TMNT. I know it sucks when series end because I was heartbroken when X-Men ended and to this day I've never seen another cartoon I liked more than X-Men (speaking of which they severely need to release that show in a season boxset already!), however TMNT 2003 was a close one. Fast Forward is to Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles what X-Men: Evolution was to X-Men (an insult to the original series). Jack