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TMNT Personality Typing
Using the Myers-Briggs and Enneagram:
Leonardo: ENFJ 1w2 so/sp/sx. Charismatic leader, perfectionistic advocate, very hard on himself and idealistic. Raphael: ISTP cp 6w7 sx/sp/so (ok, for Raphael I am not sure about the letters other than his being a Sensing Thinker, but he's definitely a Counterphobic Six as well as Social Last). Rebellious but has a sense of duty to protect others, confronts fear as his main tactic (especially shown when he is the Nightwatcher). Michelangelo: ESFP 7w6 sx/so/sp. The performer who likes to have fun, party, and eat! Carefree and easygoing. Very childlike. Donatello: INTP 5w6 sp/so/sx. The brains behind this in nearly every way. Totally focused into his inventions and creations. Quietest of the bunch. Always rational. Solving problems always. Splinter: INFJ 1w9 so/sp/sx. The mentor who showed the Turtles the way. Quiet and retiring in some ways, but also has high standards for his pupils. Caring and strict at the same time. For more information: http://www.keirsey.com http://www.enneagraminstitute.com http://www.enneagram.net/Instsub.html Last edited by Scandia; 05-16-2007 at 07:10 PM. |
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I can see Einstein in Donnie, Elvis in Mikey. They are really the same type. But Leo and Oprah!
And if the turtles were real, I want them to take kinsey scale test as well. |
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Remember that Myers-Briggs letter dimensions are just one aspect of your personality. Not all ENFJs are like Oprah Winfrey. She is a 3w2.
Personally, I'm ENTJ 3w4 sp/so/sx. |
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Don't look at me-- I didn't do it this time!
I think this is interesting... but those are a bit off. There is no way Raphael is an introvert, for example.
I asked a bunch of Myers Briggs fanboys this question once, and I think they worked it out pretty well. They came up with the following: Leo: ISTJ (introverted, aware of his surroundings, thinker, doer... Same as Splinter) Raph: ESFP (or ESTP, they couldn't decide if he was warm-blooded or cold-blooded, so to speak) Mike: ENFP (dreamer who's very loud about it) Don: INTJ (inventor/engineer type... unless I miss my guess, same as Peter Laird) Splinter: ISTJ April: ISTP Shredder: ENTJ (think-the-world-would-be-better-if-you-were-in-control type) We did more characters, but I don't remember.
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As an ENTJ, I have no problems accepting Shredder as one. I think he's also an 8w7 when it comes to Enneatypes.
Donnie seems more P than J to me, but not much. Mikey seems too concrete and not abstract enough. Hence he's ESFP. I have seen him typed as ESFP before too. Raph is a tough one. He's a Sensing Thinker for sure. But E vs. I and J vs. P are hard to determine in him. Leo and Splinter are way too idealistic to be anything other than NFs. Both are NFJs to be exact. I can see how Leo in the first few episodes of the OT can be mistyped as ESTJ- BUT if you keep watching as well as read/watch the other versions, you can see how he is an NFJ. Notice also that Leo and Splinter have the same core Enneatype but different wings, as well as the same variant stacking. I see April as ENFP and 3w4- not sure about the variants. Casey I see him as ENTP and perhaps cp 6w7 as well, and also sx-first. |
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I can't see Raph as an ISTJ. I'm an ISTJ and we're practically polar opposites.
However, if you're going by OT personalities rather than movie/comic/NT personalities...
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Yup, I saw Raphael typed as ISTJ once in another community. They probably based it off the OT. BUT he does want to be alone relatively often. He may be loud at times, but it's like he derives his energy from being alone- which is what makes someone an Introvert. In the new movie, he is more of an ESTP or ISTP. The J vs. P I based on the fact that while Donatello and Michelangelo are very easygoing and flexible, Raphael just wants things HIS WAY and that's why he butts heads so much with Leo. The J adds a bossiness to him that Donnie and Mikey just don't seem to have.
He's definitely a Counterphobic Six when it comes to numbers in every single one of them, though. To me, while Raph's different incarnations focus on various aspects of him, they do not really alter his essence all that much. |
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You could be right about Don... Don is kind of passive (the stereotype for an INTJ personality is Baxter Stockman from the new toon) but I think Don shows all the signs of INTJ. Dude's a planner.
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Just took a test; I'm INFP, type 4. |
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I got INTP, type 9
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Cool thread. I posted my bets on personality types for the Turtles once, and came up with the same as Scandia for Leo and Don. I would posibly argue ISTP over ISTJ for Raph. And ESFP over ENFP for Mike.
"As a child, the ISTJ is apt to be obedient and a source of pleasure to parents and teachers." Not very Raph. On the other hand: "ISTPs are egalitarian and can be fiercely loyal to 'brothers' but they can be fiercely insubordinate, seeing hierarchy and authority as unnecessary and even superfluous." Very Raph. I would argue that Raph is a stong introvert. Not being a party person which is the oposite of Mike (a definate extrovert) and bottling up your feeling until you just explode are signs of an introvent and definately very Raph-like. As for Mike, the bond between the ISTP and the ESFP would help explain the close bond between Mike and Raph. As for myself I'm INFJ, so I guess I'm most like Splinter.
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Hm. I always thought that introversion or extroversion has more to do with where you find you mental stimulation, and less to do with how social you are. Since Leo and Don can live in their own heads, I'd say they're introverts. But since Mike and Raph get bored and frustrated when nothing happens, I'd say they're extroverts.
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Now I am leaning more towards ISTP after seeing that description. Except that ISTPs tend to be somewhat more easygoing. While Raph does not exactly have a stick up inside him, he is not as affable as Mikey or even Donnie. Plus while SJs in general behave well as children, STJs are not as well behaved as SFJs. But yeah, I can see Raph as the rogue ISTP. No SJ turtle- but SJ is the norm and the Turtles are NOT normal. Maybe this was done on purpose to show how different they were from normal beings.
Most extraverted of the bunch is definitely Mikey and most introverted Donnie. Rooish- you are confusing Introversion with iNtuition. And there is no doubt that Leo and Don are iNtuitives, while Mikey and Raph are Sensors. |
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Yeah? Whoops, my bad.
Say, what is the second letter in the four letter thing? It's N or S. What do those stand for.
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Sensing vs. iNtuition
It pertains on how you gather information: - if you mainly use your five senses and are a concrete thinker - if you rely on your sixth sense and are an abstract thinker I must be close to 100% iNtuitive myself. |
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This personality typing stuff is new to me. It is amazing how so many of you know enough about it to analyze the turtles in this way. Thanks to the many links provided in this topic I took the tests myself and my results were: INTJ 8w7. Even though I read the description I really do not know what it all means, but it was still fun!
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I've been studying personality typing for a while now and even belong to various communities about it.
It is the first time I have been able to determine the variant stackings for fictional characters. I had a hard time determining mine- but after a long time of analyzing I have concluded that I'm sp/so/sx. |
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I just wanted to add that in a personality typing forum:
- Krang was typed to be an 8w9. Which sounds right to me. Letterwise, I think he is ISTJ. - However, Shredder was typed as a cp6w7. Maybe she was going only by the OT, but I am seeing him as an 8 while Raphael and Casey are 6s. - Person typed Michelangelo as a 9w1. While I did ponder 9w8 for Mikey, I decided he was way too hyper and adventurous. Hence I stand by him being a 7w6. And his wing is phobic.
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Leo is definitely an ISTJ (Inspector Guardian http://keirsey.com/personality/sjit.html ), but he can also fit the description of an ISFJ (Protector Guardian http://keirsey.com/personality/sjif.html ) as well. "The primary desire of the Protector Guardian is to be of service to others, but here "service" means not so much furnishing others with the necessities of life as guarding others against life's pitfalls and perils, that is, seeing to their safety and security. They go about their task of caretaking modestly, unassumingly, and because of this their efforts are not sometimes fully appreciated..." "... Their shyness with strangers is often misjudged as stiffness, even coldness, when in truth these Protectors are warm-hearted and sympathetic, giving happily of themselves to those in need. Thoroughness and frugality are also virtues for Protectors. When they undertake a task, they will complete it if at all humanly possible; and they know the value of material resources and abhor the squandering or misuse of these resources."
I do see Don as an INTJ, but some aspects of an ENTP (Inventor Rational http://keirsey.com/personality/ntep.html ) fit him as well: "Of the four aspects of strategic analysis and definition it is the functional engineering or inventive role that reaches the highest development in Inventors. It is so natural for these individuals to practice devising gadgets and mechanisms, that they start doing it even as young children. And they get such a kick out of it that they really never stop exercising their inventive bent..." "Outgoing and intensely curious, Inventors are apt to express interest in finding out about everything they come into contact with, and this can be a source of inspiration to others, who find themselves admiring the Inventor's insatiable hunger for knowledge. Inventors are also endlessly inventive, and are the most reluctant of all the types to do things in a particular manner just because that is the way things have always been done. They characteristically have an eye out for a better way, always on the lookout for new projects, new activities, new procedures." Definitely Donny there. He may not be as outgoing as say Mikey, but I've seen him get excited and chatty on occasion when he's working on something new and wants to show it off. Raph... Geez, Raph is hard to pinpoint. One would argue he's either introverted or extroverted. While he tends to shy away from social interaction, he's a lot quicker to release his emotions than Leo. The type ISTP describes him well enough. Mikey is definitely an ESFP (The Performer). "Demonstrating or performing is putting on a show to entertain others, and Performers, whether on the job, with friends, or in their families, are the natural performers among the types, people for whom it can truly be said "all the world's a stage."" Mike loves to put on an act; he loves to entertain his brothers. "Performers are not comfortable being alone most of the time, and seek the company of others whenever possible -- which they usually find, for they make wonderful playmates. Lively, witty conversationalists, Performers always seem to know the latest jokes and stories, and are quick with wisecracks and wordplay -- nothing is so serious or sacred that it can't be made fun of." Again Mike. He's a people person, and loves to be around others. He likes to be a comedian.
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Leo is WAY too much of a psychic to not be an iNtuitive Feeler. And he is more Extraverted than Introverted, though not extremely so. Leo is ENFJ- http://keirsey.com/personality/nfej.html "handling data with little pre-planning" "gathering the other children as their leader". So many things fit in this profile. I am not seeing the ISTJ or ISFJ at all.
HOWEVER, since episodes are written by different people, it can be inconsistent indeed. In some episodes Xena the Warrior Princess is very much an ISTP, while in others she's an INTJ. Donnie could be INTJ or INTP. I put INTP because he is more laid back than organized. For Mikey you put ESTP but the description you gave is of ESFP, which is exactly what he is. And for Raph, he was the hardest one, but ISTP seems mostly right. Weak I vs. E and P vs. J functions. And here's Splinter's- INFJ http://keirsey.com/personality/nfij.html .
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