The Dark Knight - More Joker and Teaser on Page 5 - Page 2

*VaughnMichael* · 12-08-2006, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DrSpengler

I didn't see it, but what I read was that there's an ancient cat god who gives powers to a new woman every generation, and Halle Barry was to be the new Catwoman or something.

John Rogers is an idiot. It pains me to know that he wrote the script for the new Transformers movie.

wait it's the same guy who did the new catwoman movie oi poor transformer fans!

*Dr. Doom* · 12-08-2006, 02:50 PM

I remember booing the trailer for Catwoman when I saw Spider-Man 2. I got some applause, it was awesome.

*DrSpengler* · 12-08-2006, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Putrescent

wait it's the same guy who did the new catwoman movie oi poor transformer fans!

Well, he wrote hte first treatment. A dozen writers have since worked over it. Hopefully, everything even remotely "John Rogers" has been worked out of that thing.

*VaughnMichael* · 12-08-2006, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Doom

I remember booing the trailer for Catwoman when I saw Spider-Man 2. I got some applause, it was awesome.

ahahha that's great!

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Originally Posted by DrSpengler

Well, he wrote hte first treatment. A dozen writers have since worked over it. Hopefully, everything even remotely "John Rogers" has been worked out of that thing.

And I sure hope so to cause I plan on seeing the Transformers movie even though I dislike the designs.*shruggs*

*Raven* · 12-09-2006, 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Raph's Girl

Harely could still be in it. Remember she's a psychologist. She could be trying to help people who were effected by the fear agent. All those people effected say their fears. That's like the origin of The Joker, Penguin, Catwoman, Mad Hatter, Riddler, Copperhead, Killer Moth, Orca, Ventriloquist, Poison Ivey...and possably others. They all become what they fear...

Sorry I have to disagree here......there has never been a villian in the Batman universe that became what they feared, in fact each one has embraced the new role they created for them selves. Each one before they became there famous villain persona was on the brink of a mental crash in some cases and some thing led them to become what they are now, but never fear. Usually a accident in a lab, thrown into a chemical bath, acid thrown in the face brining about a second personality or just emboding there obsession like the Riddler for example.

*Raph's Girl* · 12-09-2006, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Raven

Sorry I have to disagree here......there has never been a villian in the Batman universe that became what they feared.

In Batman Begins in the scene where Batman is rescuing the boy (Tim Drake? ). Just as he's pulling him up to the roof you can distinctly hear in the crowd of people effected by the fear agent one of them whispering "Joker"....

So altho yes none of the villians have ever become what they feared...however this is where the storyline is going for the new Batman movie series.

*Anarky* · 12-09-2006, 09:35 AM

Maybe in a fanfiction of an RPG all the Bat-villains have become what they fear, but not in the regular DCU. Just because the first movie had a fear serum in it, doesn't mean that the villains will all have the same origin. And lo and behold, someone said the name Joker. Could it be that the evil clown just happened to be present at the scene? I mean, we know that he is running loose in Gotham, but we don't know for how long he's been around. And my guess is that he's been there for quite some time.

And yes, the boy must have been Tim Drake. He must have. Absolutely. Because there's only one Tim in Gotham. Again, with the fanfiction-thinking.

And let's have a look at Poison Ivy, how she "became what she feared": Pamela Isley grew up and studied advanced botanical biochemistry which kind of implies, if not prooves, that Pamela Isley was not afraid of plants.

What about Two-Face then? Would a guy afraid of crime become a district attoney? I don't think so. Would the Joker have been a comedian (as established in Detective Comics #826) if he was afraid of comedic acts? Not very likely. Catwoman as a catloving dominatrix/prostitute before she became Catwoman? I doubt it.

So, whichever way you turn it, you're wrong, I'm afraid. None of your fanfiction-thoughts play out when applied to the real thing. I'd drop that argument if I was you, for your own credibility's sake.

*Mecha Cow* · 12-09-2006, 10:55 AM

It doesn't even matter if the boy was Tim Drake, since I'm pretty sure Nolan said Robin would never be part of the movie franchise as long as he was involved (And if they did decide to add Robin, it would probably be Grayson anyway).

*Raven* · 12-09-2006, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Raph's Girl

In Batman Begins in the scene where Batman is rescuing the boy (Tim Drake? ). Just as he's pulling him up to the roof you can distinctly hear in the crowd of people effected by the fear agent one of them whispering "Joker"....

So altho yes none of the villians have ever become what they feared...however this is where the storyline is going for the new Batman movie series.

Why does that boy have to be Tim Drake? Thats the first I've heard that, usually I get Jason Todd for that one. And no its not Jason, the boy was just a nameless kid used to help move the plot of the story along.

And I really would like to see where your getting the idea that in the begins series that ALL the villains will be having origins that deal with the fear toxin and becoming what they fear? Because Goyer him self said this about Two face.....

Spoiler:

And as far as we know the Joker could have been around far longer then we know....

*Duke* · 12-11-2006, 12:17 PM

I was going to respond to Raph's Girl's post but Anarky did all the necessary work on that one.

*Mr._Mutant_Man* · 12-11-2006, 12:55 PM

I like Rachel McAdams, and I'd be interested in seeing if she could pull off Catwoman. Harley Quinn would be interesting, too.

I have no problem seeing The Joker again, since maybe this time we'll get a more comic-like Joker and not Jack Nicholson dressed as The Joker. I don't think we're going to see Two-Face in the second movie just yet, I think they want to introduce him as the DA first.

*Spike Spiegel* · 12-21-2006, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecha Cow

It doesn't even matter if the boy was Tim Drake, since I'm pretty sure Nolan said Robin would never be part of the movie franchise as long as he was involved (And if they did decide to add Robin, it would probably be Grayson anyway).

After seeing Chris O'Donnel as Robin I would hate to see Robin in the current series--it would screw it up as far as I'm concerned. Christian Bale's Batman is BADASS, and part of that is the fact the he's just a guy with some gadgets and cool vehicle for spelunking. JUST ONE GUY fighting a war against crime. That was part of what made Batman 1989 so cool. Keaton was JUST ONE GUY. Unless they could figure out a way to give the charcter depth, I can't see a Robin in the Begins universe.

*Mr._Mutant_Man* · 01-03-2007, 11:32 AM

Just because they screwed up Robin once doesn't make it a bad idea. Chris O'Donell Robin didn't make much sense because the guy was 25 and went to live with Bruce Wayne. But if they got someone in their teens it could work. Young enough so that it makes sense for them to be taken in by Batman, but old enough so it doesn't seem as wrong for Batman to put them in danger.

Robin is an essential part of the Batman story, because he is what keeps Batman from going too nuts.

Death's Head · 01-03-2007, 05:08 PM

I could have sworn that one of the concepts of this new Batman franchise was that villains used in previous films were not to be used. So I've heard. Regardless, the movie uses realism to an extent that the other Batman films did not touch, so in my opinion only the ones that can be depicted as realistically as possible should be used. I don't see how Clayface, Mister Freeze, and Poison Ivy could be used as such.

*Raven* · 05-19-2007, 08:50 PM

The offical site just launched a few days ago along with it an ad for harvey Dent. Which can all be found here http://thedarkknight.warnerbros.com/images/tdk_logo.jpg

nothing special I know but its killing me. I want to see this!

Well a few days after that went up a comic book store reported that they found a few joker cards lying around in the store that said

"I believe in Harvey Dent too, HAHAHAHA"

Source: http://www.superherohype.com/news/topnews.php?id=5710

Any way today a new site popped up called I believe in Harvey Dent too
http://www.ibelieveinharveydenttoo.com/
Which you can see is a play off of the Harvey dent site. Well no news has broke out yet to claim if this is offical or fake, either way its pretty cool.

If you enter your email and the code a email will be sent to you by TragicPast that says
'I always say, you never know what a man is truly made of until you peel
the skin off his face one piece at a time."

When you receive this you can take one pixel off the picture to reveal the image hidden under harveys. Which most have broken down into this.

Spoiler:

Take it as you want but nothing has been said by the WB if those last two are offical.

*Duke* · 05-20-2007, 06:22 PM

The only thing is if you go to http://ibelieveinharveydent.com you get sent to the official Warner Bros website (aka http://ibelieveinharveydent.warnerbros.com). However, you do not get redirected to Warner Bros when you go to http://www.ibelieveinharveydenttoo.com/.

*Spitfire* · 05-20-2007, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Putrescent

I'm quite sure some people would say it's a waste and that the movies do not need to focus on characters who have allready have movie time.
Me I'm not one of those people hahahah

Allthough I'd rather see madhater or clayface or killercrock anyday over jocker again.

Sadly Mad Hatter was voted one of the worst Batman villains ever. Then again so was Penguin and he had his own movie.

I personally would love to see croc. After seeing episodes of Batman: TAS where all the villains team up I'd love to see that in a movie.

Ra · 05-20-2007, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Raven

Well a few days after that went up a comic book store reported that they found a few joker cards lying around in the store that said

"I believe in Harvey Dent too, HAHAHAHA"

Source: http://www.superherohype.com/news/topnews.php?id=5710

Now THAT is the best bit of Batman news I have heard ever since I got wind of "The Dark Knight" being in production. No idea why, but hearing that there are Joker cards lying around in comic book stores with a message like that on it...it makes the insane one inside of me grin.

Now I'm as hyped as ever to see this movie! I want my Joker!

~~LogicDonny~~ · 05-21-2007, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Spitfire666xXxXx

Sadly Mad Hatter was voted one of the worst Batman villains ever. Then again so was Penguin and he had his own movie.

I personally would love to see croc. After seeing episodes of Batman: TAS where all the villains team up I'd love to see that in a movie.

they did in the batman movie the very first one they had the one with the 60's one.

lol.. still it is a cool idea.. besides having too many villians lead to like not too much screen time for alot of the actors. take alook at spiderman 3, xmen 3 and etc.

*Raven* · 05-21-2007, 02:22 AM

Well heres the final image from I believ in Harvey dent too site

Looks pretty cool and creepy, I guess where getting the scared smile

.

12-08-2006, 02:50 PM	#22
Dr. Doom Allons-y! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Castle Doom Posts: 4,535	I remember booing the trailer for Catwoman when I saw Spider-Man 2. I got some applause, it was awesome. __________________ I love you, Pickle.

12-09-2006, 09:35 AM	#27
Anarky Outlaw Hero Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Tannhauser Gate Posts: 4,867	Maybe in a fanfiction of an RPG all the Bat-villains have become what they fear, but not in the regular DCU. Just because the first movie had a fear serum in it, doesn't mean that the villains will all have the same origin. And lo and behold, someone said the name Joker. Could it be that the evil clown just happened to be present at the scene? I mean, we know that he is running loose in Gotham, but we don't know for how long he's been around. And my guess is that he's been there for quite some time. And yes, the boy must have been Tim Drake. He must have. Absolutely. Because there's only one Tim in Gotham. Again, with the fanfiction-thinking. And let's have a look at Poison Ivy, how she "became what she feared": Pamela Isley grew up and studied advanced botanical biochemistry which kind of implies, if not prooves, that Pamela Isley was not afraid of plants. What about Two-Face then? Would a guy afraid of crime become a district attoney? I don't think so. Would the Joker have been a comedian (as established in Detective Comics #826) if he was afraid of comedic acts? Not very likely. Catwoman as a catloving dominatrix/prostitute before she became Catwoman? I doubt it. So, whichever way you turn it, you're wrong, I'm afraid. None of your fanfiction-thoughts play out when applied to the real thing. I'd drop that argument if I was you, for your own credibility's sake. __________________ Because it's... I dunno... brutal.

12-09-2006, 10:55 AM	#28
Mecha Cow Gorgeous and modest too Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 3,699	It doesn't even matter if the boy was Tim Drake, since I'm pretty sure Nolan said Robin would never be part of the movie franchise as long as he was involved (And if they did decide to add Robin, it would probably be Grayson anyway). __________________

05-19-2007, 08:50 PM	#35
Raven follower of Jesus Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 6,212	The Dark Knight The offical site just launched a few days ago along with it an ad for harvey Dent. Which can all be found here http://thedarkknight.warnerbros.com/images/tdk_logo.jpg nothing special I know but its killing me. I want to see this! Well a few days after that went up a comic book store reported that they found a few joker cards lying around in the store that said "I believe in Harvey Dent too, HAHAHAHA" Source: http://www.superherohype.com/news/topnews.php?id=5710 Any way today a new site popped up called I believe in Harvey Dent too http://www.ibelieveinharveydenttoo.com/ Which you can see is a play off of the Harvey dent site. Well no news has broke out yet to claim if this is offical or fake, either way its pretty cool. If you enter your email and the code a email will be sent to you by TragicPast that says 'I always say, you never know what a man is truly made of until you peel the skin off his face one piece at a time." When you receive this you can take one pixel off the picture to reveal the image hidden under harveys. Which most have broken down into this. Spoiler: Take it as you want but nothing has been said by the WB if those last two are offical. __________________ TMNT Future Despair Deviant Offical Ultimate Ninja Turtles Site!

05-21-2007, 02:22 AM	#40
Raven follower of Jesus Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 6,212	Well heres the final image from I believ in Harvey dent too site Looks pretty cool and creepy, I guess where getting the scared smile . __________________ TMNT Future Despair Deviant Offical Ultimate Ninja Turtles Site!

12-11-2006, 12:17 PM	#30
Duke Mad Scientist Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,913	I was going to respond to Raph's Girl's post but Anarky did all the necessary work on that one.

12-11-2006, 12:55 PM	#31
Mr._Mutant_Man Mad Scientist Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,340	I like Rachel McAdams, and I'd be interested in seeing if she could pull off Catwoman. Harley Quinn would be interesting, too. I have no problem seeing The Joker again, since maybe this time we'll get a more comic-like Joker and not Jack Nicholson dressed as The Joker. I don't think we're going to see Two-Face in the second movie just yet, I think they want to introduce him as the DA first.

01-03-2007, 11:32 AM	#33
Mr._Mutant_Man Mad Scientist Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,340	Just because they screwed up Robin once doesn't make it a bad idea. Chris O'Donell Robin didn't make much sense because the guy was 25 and went to live with Bruce Wayne. But if they got someone in their teens it could work. Young enough so that it makes sense for them to be taken in by Batman, but old enough so it doesn't seem as wrong for Batman to put them in danger. Robin is an essential part of the Batman story, because he is what keeps Batman from going too nuts.

01-03-2007, 05:08 PM	#34
Death's Head Foot Soldier Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: I'll just say that I'm a Texan. Posts: 116	I could have sworn that one of the concepts of this new Batman franchise was that villains used in previous films were not to be used. So I've heard. Regardless, the movie uses realism to an extent that the other Batman films did not touch, so in my opinion only the ones that can be depicted as realistically as possible should be used. I don't see how Clayface, Mister Freeze, and Poison Ivy could be used as such.

05-20-2007, 06:22 PM	#36
Duke Mad Scientist Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,913	The only thing is if you go to http://ibelieveinharveydent.com you get sent to the official Warner Bros website (aka http://ibelieveinharveydent.warnerbros.com). However, you do not get redirected to Warner Bros when you go to http://www.ibelieveinharveydenttoo.com/.