Rambo IV first trailer *very graphic and violent*

[Spitfire]

Originally Posted by Ecto Jedi

And for the record, Rocky Balboa was just about the best-reviewed sports movie to come down the pike in a damn long time. Making stupid-ass assumptions like that just makes you sound like a douchebag.

RT says it got a 76%. And with it going up against movies like "Lords Of Dog Town" and "You Got Served" I'd say that's not hard to accomplish.

I made my "assumptions" based off the opinions of my friends and family who aren't going to tell me a movie sucks on purpose so I won't go see it. They told me what it was about and pretty much told me it was a touchy good feel movie. They told me I'd hate it and to avoid it. So I did.

Why in the world you care at all what I think of Rocky is beyond me.

[Cure]

Originally Posted by Spitfire666xXxXx

Why in the world you care at all what I think of Rocky is beyond me.

The same reason you care why people wanna go see sequels and movies you hate. They're just trying to sway you to see it their way.

[Spitfire]

Originally Posted by TheCure

The same reason you care why people wanna go see sequels and movies you hate. They're just trying to sway you to see it their way.

I care if people go see sequels and movies I hate because if they do those movies make more money and they keep making more sequels and movies I hate.

If I don't watch Rocky it makes no difference to them because it's something that A is completed series and B already popular so no need to worry about it losing money.

[Ecto Jedi]

Originally Posted by Spitfire666xXxXx

RT says it got a 76%. And with it going up against movies like "Lords Of Dog Town" and "You Got Served" I'd say that's not hard to accomplish.

"It's actually the best Rocky movie since the original – a fitting and triumphant final chapter for one of the most iconic characters in the history of motion pictures." – Richard Roeper, Chicago Sun-Times

"Rocky Balboa is not only the best sequel since Terminator 2 and the best movie of writer-director-star Sylvester Stallone's career, it's one of the best American films of 2006, and the year's most pleasant surprise." – Jim Hemphill, REEL.COM

"After a shaky start, the film gradually overcomes our resistance, satisfies our credulity, wins us over and gives us an inspirational high. It had me in tears before it was done, and I'm a tough audience." – William Arnold, Seattle Post-Intelligencer


Very few "sequel #6" movies have ever gotten this sort of praise. So again, you obviously don't know what you're talking about. "Wuss-fest"...Gimme a break. And just for the record, I'm stating my case here not because I particularly care what you think about a film franchise I've loved for years, but because I've been hearing ignorant sh*t like this a while now and it's getting on my nerves. I find it quite irritating the way the Rocky sequels are constantly brushed off as nothing more than sports movie fodder and never given the same respect as the original. What's more irritating is that the people making these assessments usually don't even watch the films in question, or are operating under some vague memory of them from years ago...

If you don't like it, that's fine. I won't lose any sleep over it. But please, don't go insulting a film you've never even seen. It irks me.

[Spitfire]

Originally Posted by Ecto Jedi

"After a shaky start, the film gradually overcomes our resistance, satisfies our credulity, wins us over and gives us an inspirational high. It had me in tears before it was done, and I'm a tough audience." – William Arnold, Seattle Post-Intelligencer


Very few "sequel #6" movies have ever gotten this sort of praise. So again, you obviously don't know what you're talking about. "Wuss-fest"...Gimme a break.

That line to me proves my crack.

And best rated in years I guess we forgot about this movie
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/cinderella_man/

And let's not forget this one
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/million_dollar_baby/

Oh look boxing movies, ones better then Rocky. Wouldn't you know it?

So I guess I have to like those movies because they said it was good. I should like every movie that everyone says is good. Having my own opinion is terrible.

EDIT: Saw this post afterwards

And just for the record, I'm stating my case here not because I particularly care what you think about a film franchise I've loved for years, but because I've been hearing ignorant sh*t like this a while now and it's getting on my nerves. I find it quite irritating the way the Rocky sequels are constantly brushed off as nothing more than sports movie fodder and never given the same respect as the original. What's more irritating is that the people making these assessments usually don't even watch the films in question, or are operating under some vague memory of them from years ago...

If you don't like it, that's fine. I won't lose any sleep over it. But please, don't go insulting a film you've never even seen. It irks me.

All you had to say honestly. I thought you were just someone else trying to give me **** because of my standings. I get like that too with movies I view as really good don't fret.

[Ecto Jedi]

Originally Posted by Spitfire666xXxXx

That line to me proves my crack.

And best rated in years I guess we forgot about this movie
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/cinderella_man/

And let's not forget this one
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/million_dollar_baby/

Oh look boxing movies, ones better then Rocky. Wouldn't you know it?

So I guess I have to like those movies because they said it was good. I should like every movie that everyone says is good. Having my own opinion is terrible.

EDIT: Saw this post afterwards

All you had to say honestly. I thought you were just someone else trying to give me **** because of my standings. I get like that too with movies I view as really good don't fret.

Don't worry about it, Spit.

And yeah, Cinderella Man is definitely one of my all-time favourite films. I haven't seen Million Dollar Baby, though, which appears quite different in both content and context. In any event, for what it's worth, Cinderella Man follows the Rocky pattern almost to a "T". So there you go.

[majesty329]

I can't wait to see Rambo IV it may be only film I'm actually looking forward to seeing this year.

[Andrew NDB]

"Million Dollar Baby" was hardly a boxing movie -- I mean, it kind of starts going that direction, then BOOM... the twist happens (if you've seen the movie you know what I'm talking about) and it becomes some kind of made-for-TV drama in a hospital room for the last hour or so.

The really only boxing movie that is comparable to the Rockys is "Raging Bull," which is also damned good.

[Tabularasa]

How anyone who acutally saw Rocky Balboa and didn't like it, is beyond me. Defentilly was a great movie and the best Rocky since the first two. Personally the only movie I thought that was a better boxing movie then Rocky was probably Raging bull. But then again Rocky does have boxing but the good ones (1,2, and 6) were more about the characters then the boxing which is what made the movies good.

But anyway to try and stay on topic Stallone did good on Rocky Balboa so I'll give him a chance to do good on Rambo.

[Andrew NDB]

I was personally hoping for something more politically relevant in the here and now... like, send Rambo back to Afghanistan for payback (in Rambo III he kind of unwittingly helped the Taliban) or over to Iraq for cleanup duty. Still, after seeing this trailer I know I'll still love what we get.

[Ecto Jedi]

Originally Posted by Tabularasa

How anyone who acutally saw Rocky Balboa and didn't like it, is beyond me. Defentilly was a great movie and the best Rocky since the first two. Personally the only movie I thought that was a better boxing movie then Rocky was probably Raging bull. But then again Rocky does have boxing but the good ones (1,2, and 6) were more about the characters then the boxing which is what made the movies good.

But anyway to try and stay on topic Stallone did good on Rocky Balboa so I'll give him a chance to do good on Rambo.

Though we differ in opinion on the quality of the various Rocky sequels (Part III and IV are, in my opinion, the best of the lot), you'd probably enjoy my take on the subject.

Oh, and Spitfire? I hope you don't mind that I used our conversation here as a sort of jumping-off point. I think I was pretty kind -- I think I called you a "poor chap" at one point, but that's the worst I came up with.

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

I was personally hoping for something more politically relevant in the here and now... like, send Rambo back to Afghanistan for payback (in Rambo III he kind of unwittingly helped the Taliban)

So did Bond in "The Living Daylights"

Sensible man.

[Spitfire]

Originally Posted by Ecto Jedi

Though we differ in opinion on the quality of the various Rocky sequels (Part III and IV are, in my opinion, the best of the lot), you'd probably enjoy my take on the subject.

Oh, and Spitfire? I hope you don't mind that I used our conversation here as a sort of jumping-off point. I think I was pretty kind -- I think I called you a "poor chap" at one point, but that's the worst I came up with.

I find it funny I influenced you enough do even mention me. But make you make me sound like a huge troll. At least you didn't use my name.

I don't really mind though. I know when I'm being a jack ass.

[Ecto Jedi]

Originally Posted by Spitfire666xXxXx

I find it funny I influenced you enough do even mention me. But make you make me sound like a huge troll. At least you didn't use my name.

I don't really mind though. I know when I'm being a jack ass.

Haha...It was all in the name of artistic license, my friend. You really weren't being that big a jack-ass, but you're right, it does make it a bit funnier.

I'm glad you don't mind.