Addressing and referring to Splinter

*Scandia* · 05-27-2007, 06:18 AM

Is there a rule or at least pattern on how the Turtles address or refer to Splinter given the circumstance?

I would assume they would call him "sensei" when training or in battle, "father" when at home, and just plain "Master Splinter" in other circumstances.

But it almost seems random how they address him in all the various universes.

They only refer to him as solely "Splinter" when talking about him while he's not there. Which I understand due to the respect and formality.

Any specifics I may have missed?

jenna · 05-27-2007, 08:40 AM

I don't know of any 'rules' but they seem to call him 'Father' when they are in the role of sons rather than students, or when feeling vulnerable. On one occassion that I know of, in 2k3, Raphael refers to Splinter (in his absence) as 'Dad'.

*Scandia* · 05-27-2007, 09:06 AM

I am asking because in the OT, Mikey once refers to Splinter as "man" and Splinter reprimanded him saying "what will you call me next, 'rat-faced dude'?".

I do agree with the vulnerability part. In the movie prequel comic, Donatello calls Splinter "father" when the monster is taking him away.

Other than the movie/prequel comics, I have only seen a Turtle refer to Splinter as his father. And that would be Raphael in the Casey Jones episode of the NT. He said something like "my father taught me/always said". So it was talking about him, not so much addressing him.

jenna · 05-27-2007, 09:26 AM

Yeah, they are more likely to talk about him as thier father, but address him directly more formally as a teacher.

*Ninjinister* · 05-27-2007, 06:23 PM

I know in the new movie, he was referenced as "father" probably more than any other spinoff media.

*Buslady* · 05-27-2007, 07:34 PM

In the movie both Leo and Raph called him father.
I refer to him as sensei, Splinter-sensei or just Splinter.

*Ninjinister* · 05-27-2007, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Buslady

In the movie both Leo and Raph called him father.
I refer to him as sensei, Splinter-sensei or just Splinter.

I too, refer to him as those three, and sometimes Master Splinter, and on occasion Hamato Splinter.

Yeah... Splinter's had so much impact on my life that I consider him a cromulent sensei of mine.

*Roseangelo* · 05-27-2007, 08:51 PM

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and on occasion Hamato Splinter.

You know, I have to say that this name is a huuuuge pet peeve of mine, as this name has neverever been established in any official media.

*Ninjinister* · 05-27-2007, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Roseangelo

You know, I have to say that this name is a huuuuge pet peeve of mine, as this name has neverever been established in any official media.

2K3 isn't official media in your book?

*triplexxx* · 05-27-2007, 09:44 PM

Well, it ain't a spot-on match with the comics.

*Roseangelo* · 05-27-2007, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by The S

2K3 isn't official media in your book?

Was it used in 2K3? My bad if it was. Still annoys me, though...

Cassidy · 05-27-2007, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Roseangelo

Was it used in 2K3? My bad if it was. Still annoys me, though...

Yep. In the Battle Nexus arc.

*Roseangelo* · 05-27-2007, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassidy

Yep. In the Battle Nexus arc.

Ah, been awhile since I watched that. I need to have a serious marathon.

*Ninjinister* · 05-27-2007, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Roseangelo

Was it used in 2K3? My bad if it was. Still annoys me, though...

Any reason why? Hamato was his father's surname, after all....

*Roseangelo* · 05-27-2007, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by The S

Any reason why? Hamato was his father's surname, after all....

Honestly, I think it's just association with too many horribly written fanfics.

*shuriken* · 05-28-2007, 12:47 AM

Yeah never really liked Hamato Splinter, sounded really wierd when I first heard it.But I think Mater Splinter sounds cool, That's probably why the Turtles refer to him as such. To build up his ego. Hell anything with Master in front of it sounds cool. Master Tatsu, Master Shredder, Master Shuriken

*Ava Collier* · 05-28-2007, 03:13 AM

>.<' I feel weird without calling him Master Splinter. I keep wanting to "fix" my "Splinter's Dojo" shirt.
Ava has only very very recently started using "Sensei"...and she sounds silly wih her (my fake) british accent IMO

It always makes me wrinkle my nose when the turtles just call him "Splinter". Outsiders could do it sure, but even then MOST of them say "Master Splinter."

*Scandia* · 05-28-2007, 05:30 AM

I think they only refer to him as just plain "Splinter" when talking about him without his being there. There are a few exceptions:

- the first word said by a Turtle was "Splinter"
- a Turtle in the first movie shouts "SPLINTER!" from a rooftop

I suspect it was Leo who spoke first and Raph who shouted it.

Usually it is just said in the third person. Such as in season 3 of the OT, the Turtles are in the van and realize that they forgot something. They are not sure what it is that they left behind- and then they all realize it and shout "SPLINTER!".

jenna · 05-28-2007, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Scandia

I suspect it was .....Raph who shouted it.

Actually this moment in film 1 is one of the many errors made in the film. The turtle we see on screen is Michelangelo, but the voice crying "Splinter" is Raphael.

TMNT-Leonardo · 05-28-2007, 04:22 PM

Well, in any martial arts, you're suppose to refer to your teacher as "Master". That's how I refer to mine.

05-27-2007, 06:18 AM	#1
Scandia Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 2,265	Addressing and referring to Splinter Is there a rule or at least pattern on how the Turtles address or refer to Splinter given the circumstance? I would assume they would call him "sensei" when training or in battle, "father" when at home, and just plain "Master Splinter" in other circumstances. But it almost seems random how they address him in all the various universes. They only refer to him as solely "Splinter" when talking about him while he's not there. Which I understand due to the respect and formality. Any specifics I may have missed?

05-27-2007, 06:23 PM	#5
Ninjinister 無問題 Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Moesko Island, WA Posts: 14,348	I know in the new movie, he was referenced as "father" probably more than any other spinoff media. __________________

05-27-2007, 07:34 PM	#6
Buslady WingsOfDarkness! Perkele! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In 7803... Posts: 4,366	In the movie both Leo and Raph called him father. I refer to him as sensei, Splinter-sensei or just Splinter. __________________

05-27-2007, 09:44 PM	#10
triplexxx Mad Scientist Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,817	Well, it ain't a spot-on match with the comics. __________________ Please don't shoot me Mr. Big Mike. I'm too young and good-looking to die, well too young. I got a father, I got a mother, I got a grandmother, I got a little sister...and a little brother this high (raises hand), and a little brother this high (lowers hand), and little brother this high (lowers hand), and a little brother this high (lowers hand), and a little brother this high (lowers hand) and then I got a great big brother this high (slaps gun and runs). "Fright Night" - Three Stooges

05-28-2007, 12:47 AM	#16
shuriken Second City Shinobi Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Chi-town Posts: 4,182	Yeah never really liked Hamato Splinter, sounded really wierd when I first heard it.But I think Mater Splinter sounds cool, That's probably why the Turtles refer to him as such. To build up his ego. Hell anything with Master in front of it sounds cool. Master Tatsu, Master Shredder, Master Shuriken __________________ Some things are better left unsaid. This isn't one of them

05-27-2007, 08:40 AM	#2
jenna Mad Scientist Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Cambridge, UK Posts: 1,190	I don't know of any 'rules' but they seem to call him 'Father' when they are in the role of sons rather than students, or when feeling vulnerable. On one occassion that I know of, in 2k3, Raphael refers to Splinter (in his absence) as 'Dad'.

05-27-2007, 09:06 AM	#3
Scandia Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 2,265	I am asking because in the OT, Mikey once refers to Splinter as "man" and Splinter reprimanded him saying "what will you call me next, 'rat-faced dude'?". I do agree with the vulnerability part. In the movie prequel comic, Donatello calls Splinter "father" when the monster is taking him away. Other than the movie/prequel comics, I have only seen a Turtle refer to Splinter as his father. And that would be Raphael in the Casey Jones episode of the NT. He said something like "my father taught me/always said". So it was talking about him, not so much addressing him.

05-27-2007, 09:26 AM	#4
jenna Mad Scientist Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Cambridge, UK Posts: 1,190	Yeah, they are more likely to talk *about* him as thier father, but *address him directly* more formally as a teacher.

05-28-2007, 03:13 AM	#17
Ava Collier It's ninja ninja RAT! Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,958	>.<' I feel weird without calling him Master Splinter. I keep wanting to "fix" my "Splinter's Dojo" shirt. Ava has only very very recently started using "Sensei"...and she sounds silly wih her (my fake) british accent IMO It always makes me wrinkle my nose when the turtles just call him "Splinter". Outsiders could do it sure, but even then MOST of them say "Master Splinter." __________________

05-28-2007, 05:30 AM	#18
Scandia Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 2,265	I think they only refer to him as just plain "Splinter" when talking about him without his being there. There are a few exceptions: - the first word said by a Turtle was "Splinter" - a Turtle in the first movie shouts "SPLINTER!" from a rooftop I suspect it was Leo who spoke first and Raph who shouted it. Usually it is just said in the third person. Such as in season 3 of the OT, the Turtles are in the van and realize that they forgot something. They are not sure what it is that they left behind- and then they all realize it and shout "SPLINTER!".

05-28-2007, 04:22 PM	#20
TMNT-Leonardo Hench Mutant Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Earth Posts: 265	Well, in any martial arts, you're suppose to refer to your teacher as "Master". That's how I refer to mine. __________________ Turtle Power!