Chris Benoit found dead

[Raph's Girl]

Ok...here's what the press conference revealed

Nancy Benoit's feet and hands were tied together and she was wrapped in a towel and there were signs of a struggle. Died possably Friday

Daniel's body was found in his bed. Died possably Saturday

Chris died in the basement in his weight room. The chord on his weights killed him.

A bible was placed next to the bodies of his wife and son.

Prescription steroids were found.

[VaughnMichael]

Originally Posted by TMNTerminator

And another interesting tidbit from the conference...

Apparently, all of the bodies had Bibles lying next to them...

it was the under taker and paul bearer..sorry to joke but I must admit thats the first thing that came to mind...this is all really creepy.

[Mr. Snackpants]

Originally Posted by jeff the cheff

How do you know what type of person he is if you know him from his act?

Isn't that like saying Steve Martin would never kill somebody because in Cheaper by the Dozen he was super cool to the kids and seemed really nice?

Originally Posted by jeff the cheff

Wasn't his job to...hurt people in the ring? Not saying that makes you a violent person in real life, I'm sure most of them aren't. I'm just saying that it doesn't seem too surprising to me, although I know it must be hard to believe your idol would do something like that.

Exactly my thoughts.

How does anyone who doesn't know him know what he is really like? You can tell what a person is like by interviews or how his character acts. This really doesn't shock me at all. He was a huge wrestler on steroids. His job was pain. I'm sure a lot of wrestlers are aggressive in their normal lives. He must have just snapped, due to what nobody knows. This is just sickening, not shocking.

On a side note....I was watching the news last night. They were reporting on this story and said, "Benoit was a well known and beloved wrestler. He was been wrestling since xxxx and was a 2 time WWE champion." Now, why say he was a "2 time WWE champion"? Are they reporting the death of Chris Benoit the wrestling character or Chris Benoit the human being? I mean, are f'ing joking me!?!?!

[Revan]

Originally Posted by Raph's Girl

Ok...here's what the press conference revealed

Nancy Benoit's feet and hands were tied together and she was wrapped in a towel and there were signs of a struggle. Died possably Friday

Daniel's body was found in his bed. Died possably Saturday

Chris died in the basement in his weight room. The chord on his weights killed him.

A bible was placed next to the bodies of his wife and son.

Prescription steroids were found.

Wow I can't believe this. I trust me father with my life and I love him very much. I can't even imagine... What a horrific event

[KROW]

Chris Benoit's job wasn't to inflict pain on anybody. When Joanie Laurer, a.k.a. Chyna, wrote her book on wrestling in the WWE, she stated that during her match with Benoit, she was put in his Crippler Crossface and said that he was so gentle and that it didn't hurt at all.

People, it's called sports entertainment because 90% of what they do is acting. When someone is writhing in agony on the mat or the floor, odds are that they're acting like they're hurt. On the rare occasion that a wrestler gets injured, it's usually due to a freak accident or a misstep. Benoit himself broke his neck in a match by landing wrong during a maneuver. Meanwhile, the opponent he did the move to seemed to have landed harder and got up whereas Benoit was hospitalized and needed surgery. Triple H needed knee surgery twice over because he strained his own leg muscles. Kurt Angle received concussion after concussion because he refused to get treated. More often than not, these guys are a danger to themselves and not their opponents.

Pro wrestlers (most of them) train and buff up not just to look pretty, but having a thick physique helps take the bumps and bangs that are guaranteed to be received during their careers. As for the steroid use, I'm not sure why Benoit would be taking them other than muscle mass. But, they were prescribed to him, so they were not illegal.

Also, the amount of wrestlers that are aggressive in their personal lives is far outweighed by the ones who aren't. The difference is damn near insurmountable. I go to events on occasion and sometimes get the rare chance of meeting a few of the performers. Some of them want to be left alone and ignore the crowds right off, others exchange casual banter, and then there's some who take the time to to meet and greet. Of course, this is how they display themselves to the paying audience and not their families, but when you experience an encounter like that, you become convinced that the person is nice to everyone and wouldn't hurt a fly... unless you're too cynical.

[Jo Dawn]

I dunno. Something's off here; doesn't make sense. Not that any of it has to make sense. To kill her Friday and the kid Saturday... where WAS the kid for that one whole day?

Our news here has been touting this as a 'bizarre, out of the ordinary' cause of death, to which I thought of as something unseen before. So I kinda feel like we're missing something here... Especially with the time lapses between deaths. That has me intrigued. You mean not ONE PERSON queried as to their whereabouts for two days? I don't buy that, sorry.

There's more to this than is being told.

[VaughnMichael]

Originally Posted by Jo Dawn

I dunno. Something's off here; doesn't make sense. Not that any of it has to make sense. To kill her Friday and the kid Saturday... where WAS the kid for that one whole day?

Our news here has been touting this as a 'bizarre, out of the ordinary' cause of death, to which I thought of as something unseen before. So I kinda feel like we're missing something here... Especially with the time lapses between deaths. That has me intrigued. You mean not ONE PERSON queried as to their whereabouts for two days? I don't buy that, sorry.

There's more to this than is being told.

I agree with you Jo this is so very weird and creepy.

[Mike Bock]

Originally Posted by Putrescent

I agree with you Jo this is so very weird and creepy.

Yeah me too, there is definitely something missing.

[OA]

Originally Posted by Jo Dawn

There's more to this than is being told.

There generally always is...

That said, if it is true that he killed them, I truly don't understand how a person can do that. It's one thing to kill your wife/lover out of anger, jealousy, etc., but to then take the life of your own child, well, thats a whole other world....you must be TRULY disturbed take such action...again, not to excuse killing the wife, but we all know that these things happen all the time in fits of rage (and to a lesser extent, premeditated)...but to kill your own child, you must have to be in such a severe mental state...

I dunno...words fail me...such a tragedy...

[KROW]

You know... Thinking about it, it could have been that his wife killed the child, then he killed her out of rage and then himself out of grief.

[Mr._Mutant_Man]

Originally Posted by jeff the cheff

Wasn't his job to...hurt people in the ring? Not saying that makes you a violent person in real life, I'm sure most of them aren't. I'm just saying that it doesn't seem too surprising to me, although I know it must be hard to believe your idol would do something like that.

So someone who acts out violence for a movie role is more likely to kill by that logic?

Most of the people in the business are probably decent. One went nuts. Possibly due to steroids seeming like a necessity to some, but the pro-wrestling business itself is not to blame for the actions of an individual.

[KROW]

Right. Come on, folks. Just because these guys throw each other around and yell threats at each other doesn't mean that they're all violent bastards. Please learn about the business before assuming things.

[jeff the cheff]

I didn't assume anything. I'm just saying Pro-wrestlers are probably no more or less likely to commit acts of violence than anyone else. But how is anyone surprised at all about this, you know him only through an act, which happens to be violent.

[Wingnut]

This just puzzles me. It just doesn't seem like someone could be disturbed enough to kill their own wife and child and not set off some sort of suspicion amongst the people he knew...That's what I don't get. Then again I didn't know him personally. I don't know, it's a sad time for professional wrestling right now.

[KROW]

Originally Posted by jeff the cheff

But how is anyone surprised at all about this, you know him only through an act, which happens to be violent.

What does that mean? If Joe Q. Public did the same thing, I would be surprised and ask myself how anyone could do such a thing. If I did something like this, my friends and family would be equally surprised. So you're not because he's a wrestler or because he's human like the rest of us?

Also, even though I mostly know Benoit through his performance on television, that doesn't disclude how his closest friends know him. I can assure you that Dean Malenko and Chavo Guerrero are surprised as hell about this. And from hearing how they felt about Benoit and how they lived with him, I would take their word for it.

[Revan]

Originally Posted by jeff the cheff

I didn't assume anything. I'm just saying Pro-wrestlers are probably no more or less likely to commit acts of violence than anyone else. But how is anyone surprised at all about this, you know him only through an act, which happens to be violent.

I'm surprised because he had money and popularity and a family. What else is there? Plus anytime something horrible and sick like this happens, it's surprising. To me anyway

[Nightwatcher]

Originally Posted by KROW

You know... Thinking about it, it could have been that his wife killed the child, then he killed her out of rage and then himself out of grief.

The autopsy says the wife was dead a day before the son.


People also brought up the nice things people said about him during the tribute RAW to him. You have to add into the fact that he had just died so no one is really going to say, "He did have some rage problems with his wife." Or, "Sometimes he seemed a little emotionally unstable." I'm not saying either of these things are true, but they weren't going to say anything but nice things about him on the show.

[KROW]

Originally Posted by Nightwatcher

People also brought up the nice things people said about him during the tribute RAW to him. You have to add into the fact that he had just died so no one is really going to say, "He did have some rage problems with his wife." Or, "Sometimes he seemed a little emotionally unstable." I'm not saying either of these things are true, but they weren't going to say anything but nice things about him on the show.

Of course. At the time, they had no idea what the cause of death was so they couldn't attribute any inclination to any possible internal struggles. Also, it was a tribute presentation. Saying anything off the cuff like that would have been deemed unprofessional and most likely not make it to air.

[Raven]

Its very sad to hear about this, but as many have stated the case seems a bit off. I'm sure the main reason that it seems odd is because we dont know the mental state of these people during that time.

Could it be possible that Chris was so worried about losing his wife that he thought better to kill?

There could be thousands of reasons, really this would make more sense if we just knew what state of mind all these people were. Which I'm sure well get some closure on once we starting hearing stories from the families later on about the moments before this horrible event.

[jeff the cheff]

Originally Posted by KROW

What does that mean? If Joe Q. Public did the same thing, I would be surprised and ask myself how anyone could do such a thing. If I did something like this, my friends and family would be equally surprised. So you're not because he's a wrestler or because he's human like the rest of us?

Also, even though I mostly know Benoit through his performance on television, that doesn't disclude how his closest friends know him. I can assure you that Dean Malenko and Chavo Guerrero are surprised as hell about this. And from hearing how they felt about Benoit and how they lived with him, I would take their word for it.

I meant to question why anyone was surprised that this particular person did this particular act. I guess it is surprising that anybody would do that, but I meant that there isn't a reason to be more surprised that he did it than if Joe Q. Public did it.