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Old 06-24-2007, 10:02 PM   #41
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Old 06-25-2007, 06:44 AM   #42
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Maybe with them bringing back Sonic X they're realizing what good shows used to be on FoxBox compared to this crap they have now.
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Old 06-25-2007, 12:17 PM   #43
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Maybe with them bringing back Sonic X they're realizing what good shows used to be on FoxBox compared to this crap they have now.
Maybe...sure took them long enough. Recently, I only watch 4kids for TMNT, and skip every other concievable part of it. Of course, I began doing this when "The Winx Club" began....is that show ever going to be cancelled *crosses fingers*??
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Old 06-25-2007, 12:55 PM   #44
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Judging by the fact that Peter Laird rejected whatever 4kids proposed to him for the new series, I'm guessing he does want the show to simply revert back, or at least close to, the 2k3 format.

It really makes you wonder what he rejected, maybe it was a restart in continuity and he didn't want that? Or an all CGI show and he didn't want to do ahead with that either?

Either way, it seems to me that Laird is aware of the mistake he made by allowing them to go ahead with FF, and this time he's being extra cautious to not make the same mistake again. Here's hoping the show just gets renamed to "TMNT," keeps in continuity with Seasons 1-5 AND FF, and simply shows the Turtles returning to their normal time and just continuing from there. Its just the best way to do it and keep everyone happy.
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Old 06-25-2007, 12:58 PM   #45
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Was it's Laird's decision to go to FF or was that the last option?
I thought 2k3 was losing money and FF was a last shot at success. Then the new movie hit and all of a sudden there is a new interest in tmnt so now we may get another season after FF.
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Old 06-25-2007, 01:04 PM   #46
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Fast Forward was his decision. He's just realizing that it wasn't his best decision.
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Old 06-25-2007, 01:06 PM   #47
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Fast Forward was his decision. He's just realizing that it wasn't his best decision.
I c. I may have not been his best decision, but it would have been a tough decision to make for anyone. At least he realized what was done and worked to rectify it.
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Old 06-25-2007, 02:06 PM   #48
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It wasn't that bad of a choice on his part, it was just done poorly (at least it's getting better).
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Old 06-25-2007, 03:14 PM   #49
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It wasn't that bad of a choice on his part, it was just done poorly (at least it's getting better).
Exactly.
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Old 06-30-2007, 12:33 PM   #50
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I just hope stuff won't get all Volume 4 on us when we get back to the present
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Old 06-30-2007, 12:38 PM   #51
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I just hope stuff won't get all Volume 4 on us when we get back to the present
why would it if anything Fast Forward would have ended up like volume 4 if 4kids didnt have a say in anything. Because Vol. 4 takes place in the future.
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Old 06-30-2007, 12:40 PM   #52
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why would it if anything Fast Forward would have ended up like volume 4 if 4kids didnt have a say in anything. Because Vol. 4 takes place in the future.
Actually, Vol. 4 takes place in the present. But it assumes the Turtles have aged in approximately real time since the very first comic, making them in their mid-30s.
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Old 06-30-2007, 12:46 PM   #53
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Actually, Vol. 4 takes place in the present. But it assumes the Turtles have aged in approximately real time since the very first comic, making them in their mid-30s.
reeeeaaaaallly well sh1t paint me wrong for once ahaha I could have sworn it was in the future mmmk then I dislike vol.4 even more now I was like shrugging things off because I thought it took place in the future and wacky weird things usually happen in future storys lol
Oh well a bit dissapointing to find that out.
I have to say though I like what fast forward was more so than vol.4
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Old 06-30-2007, 12:58 PM   #54
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What I meant by that was I don't want them to start making cartoon version of Vol. 4 (Like how they did with Vol. 1 issues, which were all great). I just don't like Count Raphael, mini/robo Don, or Mikey being in alien jail.
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Old 06-30-2007, 01:04 PM   #55
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Here's a thought:

Let's say the Turtles fix the time window and are about to head home, but Cody accidentally sends them back to their time but puts them 5 years past since they were gone. For example let's say a few years past since they were gone rather than being sent back to the exact moment they left.

That way when the TMNT return to New York, April/Casey's lives will have moved on without them for 5 years, and maybe that way they can introduce a baby Shadow into the series?

The cartoon would definitely alter Shadow's backstory because its too adult for the cartoon, so what if they made Shadow April/Casey's actual daughter in the show instead of adoptive daughter? We already know Cody exists so apparently this April is not a "drawing" like Mirage April and can reproduce.

I think the Turtles coming back in time and discovering that April/Casey have a daughter together would be a nice shocker, and a neat way to introduce Shadow into the current cartoon.
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Old 06-30-2007, 01:07 PM   #56
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How is Shadows back-ground too adult? Alot can happen in 5 years, April and Casey could be separated when the turtles get back, and they can gradually get back together through-out the season.
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Old 06-30-2007, 01:08 PM   #57
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They could do that. Or they could adopt Shadow in another way. I somehow thought Angel was the NT equivalent of Shadow.

They have a really good thing going on with the NT. They have adapted Mirage quite well. So they should just send them back to regular time and keep on producing the Mirage based episodes. The more I watch the OT, the more I think the NT is a good thing that really should not be ended prematurely. I can deal with FF. I do not think I could deal with the equivalent of TNM.
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Old 06-30-2007, 01:10 PM   #58
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TNM was just poorly done, I don't understand how adults produced that show and expected to keep their jobs. If TNM was adapted to a cartoon series, it would be done right, hopefully.
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then I dislike vol.4 even more now I was like shrugging things off because I thought it took place in the future and wacky weird things usually happen in future storys lol
Bingo. The fact that modern New York in Vol. 4 can absolutely not be modern New York of the real world is one of the top items in my checklist of issues with Vol. 4. And that is why I don't mind the TMNT walking around in daylight in FF but I do mind it in Vol. 4.
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Old 06-30-2007, 01:13 PM   #60
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What I mean is that I do not want to see a fifth Mutant Ninja Turtle, male or female, that would join the family/team and fight along with them.

Nor do I want to see a completely total new direction or a bizarre plot pulled out of nowhere that is kept in the main continuity. A "Red Sky" equivalent would be passable as long as it stays faithful to Mirage. Another TNM would NOT be.
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