Japanese Opening for TMNT2003. - Page 6

*Coola Yagami* · 07-25-2007, 08:02 AM

I saw the 2 openings, I gotta say, I LOVE the first opening the most. The way the theme spliced scenes of the original theme visuals, lips from the show and stock art was awesome. And the song is just so damn catchy! Almost made me wish the show was an anime, but it kinda already is.

I mean, despite the fact the show has no actual blood or perverted old guys trying to steal April's panties, the show still has several anime elements in the sense that it IS an ongoing story and the characters change and evolve, as well as having that flashing background or still shots during fight scenes some times.

*gobo* · 07-25-2007, 08:21 AM

...and the American voice cast was mostly people who dubbed anime, and they made no apology for not talking down to kids (which is a million times more common in Japan) though it has its moments (like the first half of Fast Forward)...

The Master Meglomaniac · 07-26-2007, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by gobo

...and the American voice cast was mostly people who dubbed anime, and they made no apology for not talking down to kids (which is a million times more common in Japan) though it has its moments (like the first half of Fast Forward)...

There many animes that don't talk down to kids, look at Full Metal Alchemist. Anyway the biggest irony here is 4kids takes anime and removes all violence and Japanese content and then they make TMNT.

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Originally Posted by Mendinso

I got bored, so I translated all the japanese titles into english. You can read them in the first post.

Also, I'm ganna post the preview for Episode 17 in a bit. The interaction between the turtles is halarious.

"Owarenai Vacatio ....OUCH!!, Oi, Donatello, didn't you say you fixed the Shower?!"

"Now what's the problem?!"

EDIT:

Ah yes. How can I ever forget "Butt Man". It's bad, but it's bad in a good way. I actually perfer it over the US Intro.

Hey do they use honorifics in the dub? It seems like it might fit some of the characters. The Turtles calling Splinter sensei all the time makes sense. Leo seems the type to use honorifics, Mikey and Don may depending on the situation, Raph depending on his mood. Splinter likewise would be likely to use honorifics. April as American woman may not use Japanese honorifics and Casey seems to be too crude to use them.

On the villain side: Hun would likely refer to Shredder as sensei or sama. Baxter seems too arrogant to use honorifics and Shredder may use them depending on whether he liked the person (calling Hun san, while not using an honorific with Baxter.) I heard in the old series Krang called Shredder Sawaki-chan (Sawaki is his civilian name in Japan). Chan is used to address people you are very familiar with, which adds the belief that Krang and Shredder were an old married couple. Is Shredder called Oroku Sawaki in the dub?

*DrSpengler* · 07-26-2007, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by The Master Meglomaniac

There many animes that don't talk down to kids, look at Full Metal Alchemist. Anyway the biggest irony here is 4kids takes anime and removes all violence and Japanese content and then they make TMNT.

Except Full Metal Alchemist isn't aimed at kids. That's like saying HBO's Spawn doesn't talk down to kids.

Try suffering through one episode of a Japanese-written Transformers cartoon. Then you'll know what is meant by "talking down to kids".

Mendinso · 07-27-2007, 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by DrSpengler

Except Full Metal Alchemist isn't aimed at kids. That's like saying HBO's Spawn doesn't talk down to kids.

Try suffering through one episode of a Japanese-written Transformers cartoon. Then you'll know what is meant by "talking down to kids".

Actually, FullMetal Alchemist IS aimed at kids. Atleast it was when it aired in Japan.

**Krang** · 07-27-2007, 04:08 AM

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Originally Posted by The Master Meglomaniac

I heard in the old series Krang called Shredder Sawaki-chan (Sawaki is his civilian name in Japan). Chan is used to address people you are very familiar with, which adds the belief that Krang and Shredder were an old married couple.

In this case, Krang uses the -chan suffix in a mocking way to insult Shredder.

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Is Shredder called Oroku Sawaki in the dub?

Yes, in the original cartoon at least. Hamato Yoshi was also renamed to Takeshi Yoshihama.

*gobo* · 07-27-2007, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by The Master Meglomaniac

There many animes that don't talk down to kids, look at Full Metal Alchemist. Anyway the biggest irony here is 4kids takes anime and removes all violence and Japanese content and then they make TMNT.

B-but... I was saying the 'making no apologies' part was a million times more common in Japan... You took me outta context!

I'm telling.

The Master Meglomaniac · 07-27-2007, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by gobo

B-but... I was saying the 'making no apologies part' was a million times more common in Japan... You took me outta context!

I'm telling.

Sorry, I misread you. My bad.

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Originally Posted by Krang

In this case, Krang uses the -chan suffix in a mocking way to insult Shredder.

That makes sense.

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Originally Posted by Krang

Yes, in the original cartoon at least. Hamato Yoshi was also renamed to Takeshi Yoshihama.

But is he still called Sawaki in the dub for the new show? I would assume so, because Sawaki is more Japanese then Saki.

*Coola Yagami* · 07-28-2007, 01:48 AM

I thought Saki was Japanese....?

Only name I felt was odd was that Oroku Sancho guy in one of the old toon episodes (Legend of Koji). Sounds more Mexican than Japanese to me.

The Master Meglomaniac · 07-28-2007, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

I thought Saki was Japanese....?

Only name I felt was odd was that Oroku Sancho guy in one of the old toon episodes (Legend of Koji). Sounds more Mexican than Japanese to me.

I guess it isn't because that's why they renamed him Sawaki in Japan. I don't think they would rename him for kicks and I think they would know more about Japanese names then us.

*gobo* · 07-28-2007, 12:25 PM

I always figured it was because it was a lil kids' show and they thought 'Saki' sounded too much like an alcoholic beverage...

The Master Meglomaniac · 07-28-2007, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by gobo

I always figured it was because it was a lil kids' show and they thought 'Saki' sounded too much like an alcoholic beverage...

But they have booze in kids shows all the time in Japan. I heard there was an episode of Sailor Moon where she gets drunk, so I don't think that's the issue.

Time Mistress · 07-29-2007, 11:37 PM

Does anyone know why the show has two different opening and closing themes if they are still only in the first season? And what is the English name of the second closing theme?

I'm glad to hear the Japanese are enjoying TMNT so much. Keep those updates coming people!

*gobo* · 07-30-2007, 02:16 AM

It seems they plan on switching themes every 13 episodes. All American sites seem to be calling JP OP2 "Natsu No Owari GA Mada Koko Ni Aru". But, if you want to know what it translates to, I think the least awkward translation is approximately "Summer is gone, but I'm still here". This song actually seems like it would be the theme for a Latin-American soap opera. Seriously, if I didn't know already, I'd never guess that it was Japanese.

Time Mistress · 07-30-2007, 09:55 AM

Thanks Gobo.

I wonder where this "summer" theme is coming from for the end titles? Because songs about summer and the beach don't strike me as TMNT related right off the bat. Is there some symbolic significance I'm missing - the "summer" of youth, the struggle to be ordinary teens vs. being forced to live in the shadows? They're nice songs though. I like Summer is Gone over Summer Fighter I think (well the way they did the clips they put with the song anyway, the picture album was a neat way to do it.)

Mendinso · 07-31-2007, 08:08 AM

Got some possibly bad news. Amazon.co.jp, as well as CdJapan.co.jp, have pulled their listings for the first three volumes of TMNT 2003 DVDs. I'm not exactly sure WHY they were pulled, but that can't be a good thing. (Either that, or I'm not using the write Kana for the series...)

To anyone here who ordered the said dvds, could you by chance see if the orders themself were also canceled? I'm particularly curious what's going on...

*gobo* · 07-31-2007, 01:11 PM

I noticed the same thing on Amazon a week ago. I'm sure they're just being delayed. I can only hope they plan on redesigning them rather than just making the same eight-volumes-per-season mistake America already did.And, I certainly wouldn't mind if some music videos made their way to the DVDs.

I'm still itching to see the SUMMER FIGHTER video (of which they have a clip on the top page of their site). @_@

Mendinso · 09-15-2007, 06:37 PM

Well, looks like the R2 DVDs for TMNT have been cancelled. Not sure what this means, but it's entirely possible they may just release the series in Boxsets, rather than individual DVDs. But we'll wait and see...

At anyrate, I updated the front post with some information, such as ep. 25 and 26 titles. And I want to apologize once again for me not uploading any clips... Just I seriously haven't had any time to do so...

Mendinso · 10-01-2007, 02:44 PM

Ok, the third opening and ending have been uploaded. Check the first page for download links.

I.... really don't how you guys are going to like this. The opening is rap. The opening is however, highly catchy and addicting, strangely enough.

Also, there's some MINOR new animation in the opening. Not much, but... It's pretty much limited to the logo segment.

The ending song I REALLY like. The new animation here is much more minimal, but it goes through a montage of action shots and some other minor scenes from season 2 (I think) in picture frames. The song is also a really nice touch as well. Also an improvement over the second ending song.

(Song information are on the first page, as well, incase you need it...)

*DrSpengler* · 10-01-2007, 04:20 PM

Wow, that third opening isn't just bad, it's *really* bad. The Japanese openings have been getting progressively worse, I've noticed.

The third closing has a much better song; I kinda wish it had been the opening. The closing photo bits are almost disgustingly sappy, but I guess they wanted to focus on the family aspect of the Turtles.

Anyhow, as always, thanks a lot for posting these. Definately appreciate it.

07-25-2007, 08:21 AM	#102
gobo Wacky Action Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: on Earth Posts: 12,784	...and the American voice cast was mostly people who dubbed anime, and they made no apology for not talking down to kids (which is a million times more common in Japan) though it has its moments (like the first half of Fast Forward)... __________________ Live and let live... or go to hell.

07-28-2007, 12:25 PM	#111
gobo Wacky Action Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: on Earth Posts: 12,784	I always figured it was because it was a lil kids' show and they thought 'Saki' sounded too much like an alcoholic beverage... __________________ Live and let live... or go to hell.

07-29-2007, 11:37 PM	#113
Time Mistress Stone Warrior Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Pennshellvania, or the 79th level of Null-Time Posts: 710	Does anyone know why the show has two different opening and closing themes if they are still only in the first season? And what is the English name of the second closing theme? I'm glad to hear the Japanese are enjoying TMNT so much. Keep those updates coming people! __________________ AKA the Edwardian Adventuress and Fairlady_Z "You just made your last mistake, Bugeyes -- 'cuz nobody beats up my best buddy and gets away with it -- Nobody! Got that?!" Raphael about Michaelangelo, TMNT Volume 1

07-30-2007, 02:16 AM	#114
gobo Wacky Action Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: on Earth Posts: 12,784	It seems they plan on switching themes every 13 episodes. All American sites seem to be calling JP OP2 "Natsu No Owari GA Mada Koko Ni Aru". But, if you want to know what it translates to, I think the least awkward translation is approximately "Summer is gone, but I'm still here". This song actually seems like it would be the theme for a Latin-American soap opera. Seriously, if I didn't know already, I'd never guess that it was Japanese. __________________ Live and let live... or go to hell.

07-30-2007, 09:55 AM	#115
Time Mistress Stone Warrior Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Pennshellvania, or the 79th level of Null-Time Posts: 710	Thanks Gobo. I wonder where this "summer" theme is coming from for the end titles? Because songs about summer and the beach don't strike me as TMNT related right off the bat. Is there some symbolic significance I'm missing - the "summer" of youth, the struggle to be ordinary teens vs. being forced to live in the shadows? They're nice songs though. I like Summer is Gone over Summer Fighter I think (well the way they did the clips they put with the song anyway, the picture album was a neat way to do it.) __________________ AKA the Edwardian Adventuress and Fairlady_Z "You just made your last mistake, Bugeyes -- 'cuz nobody beats up my best buddy and gets away with it -- Nobody! Got that?!" Raphael about Michaelangelo, TMNT Volume 1

07-25-2007, 08:02 AM	#101
Coola Yagami Overlord Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 15,711	I saw the 2 openings, I gotta say, I LOVE the first opening the most. The way the theme spliced scenes of the original theme visuals, lips from the show and stock art was awesome. And the song is just so damn catchy! Almost made me wish the show was an anime, but it kinda already is. I mean, despite the fact the show has no actual blood or perverted old guys trying to steal April's panties, the show still has several anime elements in the sense that it IS an ongoing story and the characters change and evolve, as well as having that flashing background or still shots during fight scenes some times.

07-28-2007, 01:48 AM	#109
Coola Yagami Overlord Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 15,711	I thought Saki was Japanese....? Only name I felt was odd was that Oroku Sancho guy in one of the old toon episodes (Legend of Koji). Sounds more Mexican than Japanese to me.

07-31-2007, 08:08 AM	#116
Mendinso Random Punk Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 30	Got some possibly bad news. Amazon.co.jp, as well as CdJapan.co.jp, have pulled their listings for the first three volumes of TMNT 2003 DVDs. I'm not exactly sure WHY they were pulled, but that can't be a good thing. (Either that, or I'm not using the write Kana for the series...) To anyone here who ordered the said dvds, could you by chance see if the orders themself were also canceled? I'm particularly curious what's going on...

07-31-2007, 01:11 PM	#117
gobo Wacky Action Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: on Earth Posts: 12,784	I noticed the same thing on Amazon a week ago. I'm sure they're just being delayed. I can only hope they plan on redesigning them rather than just making the same eight-volumes-per-season mistake America already did.And, I certainly wouldn't mind if some music videos made their way to the DVDs. I'm still itching to see the SUMMER FIGHTER video (of which they have a clip on the top page of their site). @_@ __________________ Live and let live... or go to hell.

09-15-2007, 06:37 PM	#118
Mendinso Random Punk Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 30	Well, looks like the R2 DVDs for TMNT have been cancelled. Not sure what this means, but it's entirely possible they may just release the series in Boxsets, rather than individual DVDs. But we'll wait and see... At anyrate, I updated the front post with some information, such as ep. 25 and 26 titles. And I want to apologize once again for me not uploading any clips... Just I seriously haven't had any time to do so...

10-01-2007, 02:44 PM	#119
Mendinso Random Punk Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 30	Ok, the third opening and ending have been uploaded. Check the first page for download links. I.... really don't how you guys are going to like this. The opening is rap. The opening is however, highly catchy and addicting, strangely enough. Also, there's some MINOR new animation in the opening. Not much, but... It's pretty much limited to the logo segment. The ending song I REALLY like. The new animation here is much more minimal, but it goes through a montage of action shots and some other minor scenes from season 2 (I think) in picture frames. The song is also a really nice touch as well. Also an improvement over the second ending song. (Song information are on the first page, as well, incase you need it...) Last edited by Mendinso; 10-01-2007 at 02:59 PM.

10-01-2007, 04:20 PM	#120
DrSpengler Foot Elite Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 4,842	Wow, that third opening isn't just bad, it's really bad. The Japanese openings have been getting progressively worse, I've noticed. The third closing has a much better song; I kinda wish it had been the opening. The closing photo bits are almost disgustingly sappy, but I guess they wanted to focus on the family aspect of the Turtles. Anyhow, as always, thanks a lot for posting these. Definately appreciate it.