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*heretic888* · 10-10-2002, 03:40 PM

it amazes me that young kids still like the Turtles. very sad, i get the impression only us 'children of the 80s' even care about them anymore. Oh well, that should all change soon.

*Kameko* · 10-10-2002, 03:48 PM

Yeah, us 80's kiddos make up a lot of the fandom, but there are many others -- older and younger -- who are fans.

*heretic888* · 10-10-2002, 03:49 PM

a lot?? yeah, try 95%.

*Kameko* · 10-10-2002, 03:56 PM

You'd be suprised.

Ninja Turtles Cartoon Fan · 10-12-2002, 12:05 PM

Yes, most of the people on here were probably "children of the 1980s," and most people consider the cartoon something of the 80s. But the series ran from 1987-1996; the cartoon was every bit the 90s cartoon as it was the 80s. In fact, you could make the argument that the cartoon was more popular in the 90s than it was in the 80s.

That's when the movies came out. That's when all the memorabilia craze took place.

But I would also agree that the Ninja Turtles was something of both generations. There were just so many pieces to it -- cartoons, comics, coloring books, food, you name it.

Hopefully, all these new Ninja Turtles projects will remind people just how great this phenomenon was in its prime.

"I am about to be brilliant. Again." - Donatello, from "Shredder Triumphant!"

*heretic888* · 10-12-2002, 12:45 PM

yup.

~~Reznorite420~~ · 10-12-2002, 02:48 PM

This is something I find odd: a vast majority of the people at my school think nothing good came out of the 80s (they hate that decade with a passion), yet TMNT is somewhat of a craze to my peers. If you ask me, I think the childhood years are what one should remember the most and like the best. Hell, that's the case with me; I remembe back when I was about three years old listening to radio (yeah, I knew how to operate one by that age) and watching all sorts of late 80s TV shows. But NOOOOOOOOOO, not my peers; they like either 1960s stuff (which I find rather ludicrous) or the stuff that's happening now. They seem immature to me; all I hear at my school is either lame pop (no art involved in that IMO), (c)rap, or country (*gag*). I can count the number of people at my school who have good taste in music on one hand, myself included.

And I'm rambling, so...

Ninja Turtles Cartoon Fan · 10-12-2002, 07:06 PM

That's interesting because most of the people I know have nothing but the fondest memories of the late 80s and early 90s. Whenever someone mentions things like wrestling or Ninja Turtles or M.C. Hammer, it gets people talking.

We were all budding kids then, so we liked those times.

I still think the 80s were the hot spot for cartoons. I don't particularly care for the cartoons of today. Maybe it's because I'm older.

Or maybe the cartoons of today just suck, to be blunt.

*Makes a run for it as a bunch of cartoon fans chase NTC Fan with yellow styrofoam bats*

"Ow! That's my real face!"
"What are you? Some kind of a martian?"

Michaelangelo and Buffy, from "Poor Little Rich Turtle"

~~Reznorite420~~ · 10-13-2002, 08:14 AM

Yeah, well...you and I live in different worlds NTCF. The school where I go to is a somewhat rich school (but not posh, weird). These kids are straight of the Beverly Hillbillies movie, if you've seen it (from the Beverly Hills High School, I mean). They're into 60s more than anything else. Sheesh, they're hippies for crying out loud! Long story short, they're behind in terms of pop-culture....WAY behind. Yes, I know Jim Morrison and all that is part of the current "retro" fad, but they go beyond that!

I can't think right now, which is why there's isn't too much deatail in this post.

GreenWillow · 10-14-2002, 11:03 PM

~95% of TMNT fans were children of the 80's?
Hrm....in my family they only constitute 60%.
Ok, that's a small sample, but I would certainly challenge those demographics.

~GW

*heretic888* · 10-15-2002, 11:16 AM

does it really matter???

by the way, not all rap is bad. some of it is actually quite good art.

GreenWillow · 10-15-2002, 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by heretic888

does it really matter???
.

~Heh heh...hey, I'm a minority and I want my fandom to be recognized.
The wider the fan base, the stronger the TMNT is gonna be this time around. Fans of all ages kept them "alive" during the years when they had faded from public view. The other Mom fans I've met online also happen to have written some of the *best* TMNT fanficton out there.

Also, the youngest TMNT fan in my family is seven-- she's going to be the audience that the New TMNT Show is targeting, right? The next generation!

Heretic: by the way, not all rap is bad. some of it is actually quite good art

~Some rap is extremely good. You can hear that the artists have an absolute love affair with language. F'rinstance, even though I think his message can be destructive, I can't argue with Eminem's talent.

~GW

*heretic888* · 10-15-2002, 12:02 PM

i agree, greenwillow, em is a very skillful artist.

GreenWillow · 10-15-2002, 12:37 PM

~Have you ever heard any "Cowboy Poetry" recited? Now before you take offense, check it out. I realized a few years ago that in principle rap is almost identical to cowboy poetry, only it goes a *whole* lot faster.
Cowboy poetry is usually a cleverly rhyming, very often humorous story, or philosophical observation about life, or even a sad lament, performed live. Like rap, it's all about language, and an observation about the human condition. While rap is usually set on the city streets, cowboy poetry is usually out thar on the range, but it's really interesting how close the two art forms are aligned.
I wonder who would be more alarmed, a rapper or a cowboy poet, to think that they might have something so close to the heart in common. lol!

~GW

**HorseTechie** · 10-15-2002, 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by heretic888

does it really matter???

by the way, not all rap is bad. some of it is actually quite good art.

I agree as well!

Just cause it's rap doesn't mean it's gonna be about the gangstah's past times. I've heard some good rap that combines soul, or classical rythm, with a rhyming lyric. And would you believ, Christian Rap even.

Will have to admit, my husband likes Emniem... cause he had a good sound. Then we figured out how bad the lyrics were later. Oh well... it reminds me then of Tokka having a funky day. (don't tell him I said that!

)

~~Reznorite420~~ · 10-15-2002, 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by heretic888

by the way, not all rap is bad. some of it is actually quite good art.

Yeah, the early stuff is. But that crap that's played today...don't even get me started.

Quote:

Originally Posted by heretic888

i agree, greenwillow, em is a very skillful artist.

Hell will freeze over the day I believe that statement.

Raphaella · 10-15-2002, 03:48 PM

TMNT were the best, beat the rest before some of these silly things came on TV.

Most of the stuff now-a-days (not all!) are just . .. well, they suck! And feel TMNT were the best cartoon of the 80s/90s, i watched them everyday! But now, when I ask friends about them,they look me as if to say 'where have u been the past few years?' My friend find TMNT a ridikulas cartoon, only for wimps, so I keep my mough shut and insult them under my breath, lol. But I thnk TMNT shoul have a god say from everyone becoz they were just so great in their days, and sill are!

Ninja Turtles Cartoon Fan · 10-15-2002, 03:58 PM

There are a few good cartoons still on today that I watch besides the Ninja Turtles.

Back when the Turtles were still popular, I was a big fan of the Ghostbusters cartoon. The original one, not Ghostbusters the Next Generation or whatever the heck that terrible show was.

Today's cartoons that I like would include Doug (the episodes on Nickelodeon were better than the ones on ABC) and Recess. I probably like Recess better than Doug, actually. They've got some really smart writers on that show.

"How come we always get the tough assignments?" - Rocksteady, from "TheTurtle Terminator"

10-10-2002, 03:40 PM	#1
heretic888 Foot Elite Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,344	heh it amazes me that young kids still like the Turtles. very sad, i get the impression only us 'children of the 80s' even care about them anymore. Oh well, that should all change soon. __________________ "Ninpo began as training to become a moral people and to learn to endure in whatever social condition one is in; to know and accept one's fate, and to live for human beings and all other creatures. The person who masters all of these is a Ninja." (Masaaki Hatsumi)

10-10-2002, 03:49 PM	#3
heretic888 Foot Elite Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,344	a lot? a lot?? yeah, try 95%. __________________ "Ninpo began as training to become a moral people and to learn to endure in whatever social condition one is in; to know and accept one's fate, and to live for human beings and all other creatures. The person who masters all of these is a Ninja." (Masaaki Hatsumi)

10-12-2002, 12:45 PM	#6
heretic888 Foot Elite Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,344	... yup. __________________ "Ninpo began as training to become a moral people and to learn to endure in whatever social condition one is in; to know and accept one's fate, and to live for human beings and all other creatures. The person who masters all of these is a Ninja." (Masaaki Hatsumi)

10-14-2002, 11:03 PM	#10
GreenWillow Hench Mutant Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The Mountains Posts: 425	Re: a lot? ~95% of TMNT fans were children of the 80's? Hrm....in my family they only constitute 60%. Ok, that's a small sample, but I would certainly challenge those demographics. ~GW __________________ Hugs, kisses, GreenFaerieDust(tm) and a small vial of Belladonna. Life is good.

10-15-2002, 11:16 AM	#11
heretic888 Foot Elite Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,344	hmmm does it really matter??? by the way, not all rap is bad. some of it is actually quite good art. __________________ "Ninpo began as training to become a moral people and to learn to endure in whatever social condition one is in; to know and accept one's fate, and to live for human beings and all other creatures. The person who masters all of these is a Ninja." (Masaaki Hatsumi)

10-10-2002, 03:48 PM	#2
Kameko Sister to the TMNT Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Los Angeles, California, USA Posts: 2,756	Yeah, us 80's kiddos make up a lot of the fandom, but there are many others -- older and younger -- who are fans.

10-10-2002, 03:56 PM	#4
Kameko Sister to the TMNT Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Los Angeles, California, USA Posts: 2,756	You'd be suprised.

10-12-2002, 12:05 PM	#5
Ninja Turtles Cartoon Fan Stone Warrior Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: USA Posts: 835	Yes, most of the people on here were probably "children of the 1980s," and most people consider the cartoon something of the 80s. But the series ran from 1987-1996; the cartoon was every bit the 90s cartoon as it was the 80s. In fact, you could make the argument that the cartoon was more popular in the 90s than it was in the 80s. That's when the movies came out. That's when all the memorabilia craze took place. But I would also agree that the Ninja Turtles was something of both generations. There were just so many pieces to it -- cartoons, comics, coloring books, food, you name it. Hopefully, all these new Ninja Turtles projects will remind people just how great this phenomenon was in its prime. "I am about to be brilliant. Again." - Donatello, from "Shredder Triumphant!"

10-12-2002, 02:48 PM	#7
~~Reznorite420~~ Banned Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 3,851	This is something I find odd: a vast majority of the people at my school think nothing good came out of the 80s (they hate that decade with a passion), yet TMNT is somewhat of a craze to my peers. If you ask me, I think the childhood years are what one should remember the most and like the best. Hell, that's the case with me; I remembe back when I was about three years old listening to radio (yeah, I knew how to operate one by that age) and watching all sorts of late 80s TV shows. But NOOOOOOOOOO, not my peers; they like either 1960s stuff (which I find rather ludicrous) or the stuff that's happening now. They seem immature to me; all I hear at my school is either lame pop (no art involved in that IMO), (c)rap, or country (gag). I can count the number of people at my school who have good taste in music on one hand, myself included. And I'm rambling, so...

10-12-2002, 07:06 PM	#8
Ninja Turtles Cartoon Fan Stone Warrior Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: USA Posts: 835	That's interesting because most of the people I know have nothing but the fondest memories of the late 80s and early 90s. Whenever someone mentions things like wrestling or Ninja Turtles or M.C. Hammer, it gets people talking. We were all budding kids then, so we liked those times. I still think the 80s were the hot spot for cartoons. I don't particularly care for the cartoons of today. Maybe it's because I'm older. Or maybe the cartoons of today just suck, to be blunt. Makes a run for it as a bunch of cartoon fans chase NTC Fan with yellow styrofoam bats "Ow! That's my real face!" "What are you? Some kind of a martian?" Michaelangelo and Buffy, from "Poor Little Rich Turtle"

10-13-2002, 08:14 AM	#9
~~Reznorite420~~ Banned Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 3,851	Yeah, well...you and I live in different worlds NTCF. The school where I go to is a somewhat rich school (but not posh, weird). These kids are straight of the Beverly Hillbillies movie, if you've seen it (from the Beverly Hills High School, I mean). They're into 60s more than anything else. Sheesh, they're hippies for crying out loud! Long story short, they're behind in terms of pop-culture....WAY behind. Yes, I know Jim Morrison and all that is part of the current "retro" fad, but they go beyond that! I can't think right now, which is why there's isn't too much deatail in this post.

10-15-2002, 12:02 PM	#13
heretic888 Foot Elite Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,344	yup i agree, greenwillow, em is a very skillful artist. __________________ "Ninpo began as training to become a moral people and to learn to endure in whatever social condition one is in; to know and accept one's fate, and to live for human beings and all other creatures. The person who masters all of these is a Ninja." (Masaaki Hatsumi)

10-15-2002, 12:37 PM	#14
GreenWillow Hench Mutant Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: The Mountains Posts: 425	~Have you ever heard any "Cowboy Poetry" recited? Now before you take offense, check it out. I realized a few years ago that in principle rap is almost identical to cowboy poetry, only it goes a whole lot faster. Cowboy poetry is usually a cleverly rhyming, very often humorous story, or philosophical observation about life, or even a sad lament, performed live. Like rap, it's all about language, and an observation about the human condition. While rap is usually set on the city streets, cowboy poetry is usually out thar on the range, but it's really interesting how close the two art forms are aligned. I wonder who would be more alarmed, a rapper or a cowboy poet, to think that they might have something so close to the heart in common. lol! ~GW __________________ Hugs, kisses, GreenFaerieDust(tm) and a small vial of Belladonna. Life is good.

10-15-2002, 03:48 PM	#17
Raphaella Hench Mutant Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: England, building my own sewer system Posts: 403	TMNT were the best, beat the rest before some of these silly things came on TV. Most of the stuff now-a-days (not all!) are just . .. well, they suck! And feel TMNT were the best cartoon of the 80s/90s, i watched them everyday! But now, when I ask friends about them,they look me as if to say 'where have u been the past few years?' My friend find TMNT a ridikulas cartoon, only for wimps, so I keep my mough shut and insult them under my breath, lol. But I thnk TMNT shoul have a god say from everyone becoz they were just so great in their days, and sill are! __________________ "We came, we saw, we kicked their ASS!" - Ghostbusters message to UK channels : You SUCK ~ Mutant lover

10-15-2002, 03:58 PM	#18
Ninja Turtles Cartoon Fan Stone Warrior Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: USA Posts: 835	There are a few good cartoons still on today that I watch besides the Ninja Turtles. Back when the Turtles were still popular, I was a big fan of the Ghostbusters cartoon. The original one, not Ghostbusters the Next Generation or whatever the heck that terrible show was. Today's cartoons that I like would include Doug (the episodes on Nickelodeon were better than the ones on ABC) and Recess. I probably like Recess better than Doug, actually. They've got some really smart writers on that show. "How come we always get the tough assignments?" - Rocksteady, from "TheTurtle Terminator"