If they revived the old show... - Page 3

*Sage Ninja* · 08-12-2007, 11:36 PM

personaly I don't we'll ever see a revival of the old show no matter how much us OT fans might want it and how much money it might get. Because for one thing I don't think Peter Laird would want to a revival of the old show to steal the thunder of the 2k3 series which is closer to his vision of his turtles. That would be like giveing your family company to your bastard child you had with exotic dancer instead of your legitimate child you had in proper wedlock.

However I have a question...a lot of people blame the fact that the TMNT franchise doesn't get any respect and is considered kiddy emtertainment because of the old toons benign setting. There for damning any edgier versions of the franchise to be taken seriously. But do you think that this could be solved if the powers that be where to revive the OT with a straight to dvd short mini series that is more mature and adult (while keeping the spirit and charm of the old series) could show that even the old series can be capable of more mature story lines and edgier charactersations that it could help make people as a whole see that TMNT can be an adult franchise as well? I mean since the OT paved the way for TMNT to be main stream with its kiddified setting, maybe it could also pave the way to show that the same medium that was popular as a kids cartoon can can be just as poplular and engaging for an 13 and over audiance, so that other more "mirage" faithful TMNT mediums wouldn't be sneered at by the general public for "trying to be more adult that its supposed too".

I mean I don't see why not. Since the cartoon is twenty years old and much of the fans back then are now adults and a majority of TMNT fans still love the OT cartoon, why not come back with a more adultish version of the OT for them to enjoy? I know I'd enjoy that.

Just a thought. What do every one else here think?

General Traag · 08-13-2007, 08:48 AM

That is nearly exactly what i'm thinking.
I never understood why they didn't try and give the ot a more serious note now that all the people who grew up with it got in a adult age. I mean in the first 'season' it worked pretty well, it had humor and puns and still was kinda dark. The 'red sky' episodes where a step in that direction too, it just didn't have a well-through thought shredder/krang plot.
And i think with making tmnt 2003 a complete new story they lost alot of the potential viewers (which has nothing to do with the good quality of tmnt 2003 though).

*ToTheNines* · 08-13-2007, 10:32 AM

No, it wouldn't be the OT. General people know TMNT can be serious, they just don't like it like that. Regardless, I'm sure you get some idiot who saw the movies and 3 episodes of the OT when they were 5, and who goes to youtube and gamefaqs and goes on about how they hate the new turtles (which they likely haven't even seen), have them watch an OT direct to DVD release that's "dark and adult" they'd rave about the pizza, cowabunga, krang and shredder. So, no. It would not open anyones eyes to anything (altough I would like to see such a DVD

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The Shelf · 08-13-2007, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Sage Ninja

I mean I don't see why not. Since the cartoon is twenty years old and much of the fans back then are now adults and a majority of TMNT fans still love the OT cartoon, why not come back with a more adultish version of the OT for them to enjoy? I know I'd enjoy that.

The only people who want "adultish" turtles are fans of the comics and/or the 2k3 cartoon. Fans of the OT (no matter how old they may be now) are the ones complaining about the new movie for its mature feel and lack of pizza. Sure there are exceptions, but those exceptions are not a large enough crowd to warrant such an attempt. I'm not saying I wouldn't like to see it, though, because I actually think it would be kinda neat, but I just can't see a mature take on the OT series taking off very well.

*Drtooth* · 08-13-2007, 10:48 AM

Firstly, I don't think the OT voices would work at all with the NT. If they got people from the movie, that's the oldest school we'd be able to get.

But aside from that, Zarius has the true idea. A made for DVD movie based on the old series. That would be absolutely perfect. I don;t see any other option, other than short web toons to bring back old school style turtles.

That said, I'd love to see something like a "What if" deal. Something like a red sky Shredder and Krang series. With an episode where shredder finally get the guts to over throw Krang. Or vice versa. Where Krang becomes unstoppable and gets his original body back, and the Turtles have to team up with Shredder to stop him. Meanwhile Rocksteady and Bebop are only slightly goofy, but a little more threatening, like they were first season.

I'd also love to see some of the better characters like The Rat King get a little more intense.

Something where the characters are more intense but can still have old school style humor. that's what I'd like to see.

fastforwarddregg · 08-13-2007, 10:58 AM

maybe they would continue the show where it left off when splinter said he is no longer their mentor. ITs hard to say, it ended in November 1996. maybe make it darker, but then it was darker in the red sky years, but probably change the animation.

General Traag · 08-13-2007, 11:02 AM

I think we could sum it up as a direct-to-dvd movie in the style of the first episodes/red sky (but w/o a red sky pls) which deals with the technodrome and the main villains of the ot (krang, shredder and bebop n' rocksteady are a given, baxter would be cool, rat king etc.).

Should be a bit like the ninja tribunal of the 2k3 series, a overwhelming threat requires the good and bad guys to team up for a grande final.

Now who makes the petition? ^^

~~AquaParade~~ · 08-13-2007, 12:27 PM

That's one petition I'd actually sign

The original pilot for the OT kinda had a serialized feel, so even another similar 5 parter would be awesome. Peter Laird could look at it as giving the OT justice, by giving it a little more of that mirage feel

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*Kendamu* · 08-13-2007, 12:51 PM

Write it like Season 1 was written and give it some decent animation and I'll go for it.

*gobo* · 08-13-2007, 01:07 PM

I'd like to see the beaks again.

*ToTheNines* · 08-13-2007, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by gobo

I'd like to see the beaks again.

The image you requested master

08-12-2007, 11:36 PM	#41
Sage Ninja Band of the Hawk Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: USA Posts: 3,926	personaly I don't we'll ever see a revival of the old show no matter how much us OT fans might want it and how much money it might get. Because for one thing I don't think Peter Laird would want to a revival of the old show to steal the thunder of the 2k3 series which is closer to his vision of his turtles. That would be like giveing your family company to your bastard child you had with exotic dancer instead of your legitimate child you had in proper wedlock. However I have a question...a lot of people blame the fact that the TMNT franchise doesn't get any respect and is considered kiddy emtertainment because of the old toons benign setting. There for damning any edgier versions of the franchise to be taken seriously. But do you think that this could be solved if the powers that be where to revive the OT with a straight to dvd short mini series that is more mature and adult (while keeping the spirit and charm of the old series) could show that even the old series can be capable of more mature story lines and edgier charactersations that it could help make people as a whole see that TMNT can be an adult franchise as well? I mean since the OT paved the way for TMNT to be main stream with its kiddified setting, maybe it could also pave the way to show that the same medium that was popular as a kids cartoon can can be just as poplular and engaging for an 13 and over audiance, so that other more "mirage" faithful TMNT mediums wouldn't be sneered at by the general public for "trying to be more adult that its supposed too". I mean I don't see why not. Since the cartoon is twenty years old and much of the fans back then are now adults and a majority of TMNT fans still love the OT cartoon, why not come back with a more adultish version of the OT for them to enjoy? I know I'd enjoy that. Just a thought. What do every one else here think? __________________ Cassandra: You won't fight me, but will you fight--for him! Cassandra's Revenge ~Tangled the Series ________________________________ http://frankviola.org/2012/01/30/godsviewofawoman/ _______________________________ http://nox-artemis.tumblr.com/post/4...k-and-feminism

08-13-2007, 08:48 AM	#42
General Traag Foot Soldier Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Technodrome Mark III, Dimension X Posts: 174	That is nearly exactly what i'm thinking. I never understood why they didn't try and give the ot a more serious note now that all the people who grew up with it got in a adult age. I mean in the first 'season' it worked pretty well, it had humor and puns and still was kinda dark. The 'red sky' episodes where a step in that direction too, it just didn't have a well-through thought shredder/krang plot. And i think with making tmnt 2003 a complete new story they lost alot of the potential viewers (which has nothing to do with the good quality of tmnt 2003 though). __________________ -

08-13-2007, 10:48 AM	#45
Drtooth Foot Elite Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 4,439	Firstly, I don't think the OT voices would work at all with the NT. If they got people from the movie, that's the oldest school we'd be able to get. But aside from that, Zarius has the true idea. A made for DVD movie based on the old series. That would be absolutely perfect. I don;t see any other option, other than short web toons to bring back old school style turtles. That said, I'd love to see something like a "What if" deal. Something like a red sky Shredder and Krang series. With an episode where shredder finally get the guts to over throw Krang. Or vice versa. Where Krang becomes unstoppable and gets his original body back, and the Turtles have to team up with Shredder to stop him. Meanwhile Rocksteady and Bebop are only slightly goofy, but a little more threatening, like they were first season. I'd also love to see some of the better characters like The Rat King get a little more intense. Something where the characters are more intense but can still have old school style humor. that's what I'd like to see. __________________ [Insert mildly amusing banner here]

08-13-2007, 11:02 AM	#47
General Traag Foot Soldier Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Technodrome Mark III, Dimension X Posts: 174	I think we could sum it up as a direct-to-dvd movie in the style of the first episodes/red sky (but w/o a red sky pls) which deals with the technodrome and the main villains of the ot (krang, shredder and bebop n' rocksteady are a given, baxter would be cool, rat king etc.). Should be a bit like the ninja tribunal of the 2k3 series, a overwhelming threat requires the good and bad guys to team up for a grande final. Now who makes the petition? ^^ __________________ -

08-13-2007, 01:07 PM	#50
gobo Wacky Action Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: on Earth Posts: 12,784	I'd like to see the beaks again. __________________ Live and let live... or go to hell.

08-13-2007, 10:32 AM	#43
ToTheNines Col. Stinkmeaner Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 19,363	No, it wouldn't be the OT. General people know TMNT can be serious, they just don't like it like that. Regardless, I'm sure you get some idiot who saw the movies and 3 episodes of the OT when they were 5, and who goes to youtube and gamefaqs and goes on about how they hate the new turtles (which they likely haven't even seen), have them watch an OT direct to DVD release that's "dark and adult" they'd rave about the pizza, cowabunga, krang and shredder. So, no. It would not open anyones eyes to anything (altough I would like to see such a DVD )

08-13-2007, 10:58 AM	#46
fastforwarddregg Foot Soldier Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 164	maybe they would continue the show where it left off when splinter said he is no longer their mentor. ITs hard to say, it ended in November 1996. maybe make it darker, but then it was darker in the red sky years, but probably change the animation.

08-13-2007, 12:27 PM	#48
~~AquaParade~~ Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 8,450	That's one petition I'd actually sign The original pilot for the OT kinda had a serialized feel, so even another similar 5 parter would be awesome. Peter Laird could look at it as giving the OT justice, by giving it a little more of that mirage feel .

08-13-2007, 12:51 PM	#49
Kendamu Sewerhead Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 2,890	Write it like Season 1 was written and give it some decent animation and I'll go for it.