Well it's over.... - Page 2

Ra · 08-11-2007, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Voltron

When they took down Napster, they brought up Kazaa.

When they took down Youtube, what head will grow back in its place?

Hmmmm. . .

Internet=Hydra. You can't kill the beast.

Well said. There are places like livevideo.com that can easily take place the void YouTube has left in our hearts (if you haven't gone there, go there. The similarities are frightening).

Besides, we all knew this was going to happen ever since Google bought YouTube. Well, I did, at least. It was going to happen some time, which is sad to say. Like Voltron just said, you can't kill the internet. Something will always re-spawn in place of a popular site. What's to say that YouTube is an exception to this rule?

*Drtooth* · 08-11-2007, 08:21 PM

Hey as long as the devil worshiping media conglomerates don't f*&% that one up too, I'm all for it.

BTW... I didn't make that phrase "Devil Worshiping Media Conglomerates" up. I stole it from Troma founder Lloyd Kaufman.

*Warhorse* · 08-11-2007, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Kunoichi_Haruko

Whoa! When did they do this, Warhorse?!

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/...-lawsuit_N.htm

I saw it on the news last week, and it jsut broke my heart that a corporation is going after an organization that is trying to help those in need. How low can one go? It's just horrid what johnson & johnson is doing. I really hope the courts b!tch slap those people to their senses. They really need to. What's next. chevy suing the television show Cops because when they are video taping a car chase, it just so happens that the chase involves a couple of CHevy's? Or maybe America's Funniest Home Videos winner will be sued by a theme park because their funny video was taped at Walt Disney's Animal Kingdom or something?

*Deathknight* · 08-11-2007, 09:21 PM

Okay, the video was removed. What exactly was it? Obviously it's something about not having copyrighted stuff on Youtube anymore but what exactly did it show.

*Aelia* · 08-12-2007, 01:38 AM

I wouldn't have a problem with Youtube cracking down like this if they'd be a little less harsh. They're taking down fanmade stuff too.

Ra · 08-12-2007, 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Aelia

I wouldn't have a problem with Youtube cracking down like this if they'd be a little less harsh. They're taking down fanmade stuff too.

This is my biggest problem with YouTube. I know two great fan artists who had their accounts band by making music videos, and one guy with his own series is really getting the short end of the stick, simply because it's spoofing an anime series. There really is no justice with YouTube at all...

*end random outburst*

*Drtooth* · 08-12-2007, 10:03 AM

Fan made stuff.... yeah.... that's the big fat greedy evil conglomerates I know and love...

The stuff I saved to favorites is mostly still there.

But fanmade stuff? Come on!

Does anyone even watch Youtube for moronic vlogs, old women videotaping their cats falling off the TV, and Andy Samberg crap?

*Warhorse* · 08-12-2007, 03:04 PM

I always thought the copyright thing was just so people cant take the copywrited material and sell it. But for some sort of collage to show people what you like, and show some unique spin and creativity with a character or a video you used to like, as long as you dont use it for profit, shouldn't be bothering anyone!

But then again, the big corporations seem to be the old slave drivers rearing their ugly heads, and now that they got sleepers in power to do their bidding, it's just a matter of time before they turn anyone who isn't making 1 billion a year into obedient pieces of horse flesh!

Ledezman · 08-12-2007, 03:22 PM

This copyrights stuff is so filled with legal loopholes and oddities. There is an interesting documentary that deals with music copyrights and how the business is evolving because of Internet and file sharing. Maybe you have already seen it, but if you don't, check it out. It shows some interesting points of view.

http://www.goodcopybadcopy.net/

*Drtooth* · 08-13-2007, 10:58 AM

Copyrights are ridiculous. they'll stop someone from making a Mickey mouse mural in a preschool, but they can't go after Taiwanese bootleggers of Mucky Mouse products. I want to see the loophole that allows Chicken Little "Sea life" stickers selling at dollar stores, but you can't post the trailer online.

Copyrights are intended to protect people from having their ideas stolen by another company who intends to make money off of it. Like say, If I came up with a cartoon about a crimefighting squid that sings Punk metal songs... that means if someone comes out with a cartoon about a crime fighting octopus who hip hops and looks the same, but has a slightly different color they'd get sued.

But the truth is copyrights protect talentless wealthy guys who buy up whatever they can as an investment. Ripoffs and knockoffs are almost entirely glazed over now. look at Coconut Fred's Fruit Salad Island. How come the hell Nickelodeon didn't sick their rottweiler lawyers on Warners, but they sick them on people who use clips of Spongebob to random music who want to show that they appreciate the shows?

I am somehow not surprised that Warners is part of this copyright gestapo. They have ruined themselves with bulls***** like Loonatics Unleashed, and they refuse to put Duck Dodgers and Tiny Toons on DVD, but will threaten legal action to pull the clips off Youtube. hey. You're not making any money off of it. Why must you insist on keeping it in a guarded cave and not using it?

*Spike Spiegel* · 08-13-2007, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Drtooth

I am somehow not surprised that Warners is part of this copyright gestapo. They have ruined themselves with bulls***** like Loonatics Unleashed, and they refuse to put Duck Dodgers and Tiny Toons on DVD, but will threaten legal action to pull the clips off Youtube. hey. You're not making any money off of it. Why must you insist on keeping it in a guarded cave and not using it?

I can't understand WB either...they shoot out DVDs of "Ben 10(a freaking movie...? Already?!),"Teen Titans," and "Loonatics" like gangbusters, but all the old cool stuff that fans love them for is seemingly stuck in a vault somewhere. When people care about something enough to post it on the "Internets" because there is no other way to access the said products, there should be gears and stuff turning in the CEO's heads. "Hmmm...there is a high demand for Program/Show X. We should release it on DVD and make craploads of money."

Unfortunately, the Man is seemingly too high on whatever he gets high on(must be pretty potent, huh?) to realize the massive potential of this stuff.

*Drtooth* · 08-14-2007, 08:41 AM

Teen titans at least has Comic Book geek appeal. I'm thrilled and actually surprised they even released Animaniacs and Pinky and the Brain (in multiple volumes, yet). Meanwhile the Hanna Barbera line of DVD's somehow is running out of gas enough for them to release "Wait till your Father Gets Home", but they didn't bother trying to figure out how to sell Atom Ant/ Secret Squirrel show DVD's.

The Animaniacs DVD's were pretty successful... you'd think they'd inquire about Freakazoid and Tiny toons by now, since they've finished Pinky and the Brain.

But why no Duck Dodgers? Are you going to keep that in a vault and never see it again and then release every horrible show you do now?

**Jester** · 08-14-2007, 08:51 AM

I no longer have a youtube for this very reason....I assumed it was just my full Animaniacs shorts (Little Drummer Warners and Hooked on a Ceiling) but it may have been my TMNT music video too? Great, thanks You Tube. And they didn't send me a "We're gonna delete your account" notice either, just went to check feedback on a video, and I was gone. Anyone else have this happen?

*Drtooth* · 08-14-2007, 09:38 AM

Your fault on that one. maybe you should have done rediculously dangerous stunts, or had a bunch of teenage girls fight each other and tape it. You know, cuz Youtube values human safety over copyrights.

*Spike Spiegel* · 08-14-2007, 03:51 PM

I am currently browsing LiveVideo. Check this video out.

http://www.livevideo.com/video/smudg...C9/yousue.aspx

*Drtooth* · 08-28-2007, 09:23 PM

Only a few more days until Adolf the copywrite fairy kills free speach again.

Slash · 08-29-2007, 01:47 PM

All it takes is for like a place in Asia or elsewhere to set up a new youtube.com like site and we are good to go. US laws do not stop or hold elsewhere!

**GK Punk** · 08-29-2007, 01:51 PM

psst. copyright laws are international.

*Warhorse* · 08-29-2007, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Michi heavenly6

psst. copyright laws are international.

But they will not hold in countries like Iran or Columbia, or even Cuba where the United States Lawyers have no jurisdiction outside of U.S. protected bases.

**GK Punk** · 08-29-2007, 11:10 PM

It wouldn't stop them from trying though. We all know this.

08-11-2007, 08:21 PM	#22
Drtooth Foot Elite Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 4,439	Hey as long as the devil worshiping media conglomerates don't f*&% that one up too, I'm all for it. BTW... I didn't make that phrase "Devil Worshiping Media Conglomerates" up. I stole it from Troma founder Lloyd Kaufman. __________________ [Insert mildly amusing banner here]

08-11-2007, 09:21 PM	#24
Deathknight Mad Scientist Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: One of the 972 rooms of the technodrome Posts: 1,995	Okay, the video was removed. What exactly was it? Obviously it's something about not having copyrighted stuff on Youtube anymore but what exactly did it show. __________________ Shredder: "Ninja hall of fame? Ha! Where's MY statue?!" -My Brother, the Bad Guy

08-12-2007, 10:03 AM	#27
Drtooth Foot Elite Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 4,439	Fan made stuff.... yeah.... that's the big fat greedy evil conglomerates I know and love... The stuff I saved to favorites is mostly still there. But fanmade stuff? Come on! Does anyone even watch Youtube for moronic vlogs, old women videotaping their cats falling off the TV, and Andy Samberg crap? __________________ [Insert mildly amusing banner here]

08-13-2007, 10:58 AM	#30
Drtooth Foot Elite Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 4,439	Copyrights are ridiculous. they'll stop someone from making a Mickey mouse mural in a preschool, but they can't go after Taiwanese bootleggers of Mucky Mouse products. I want to see the loophole that allows Chicken Little "Sea life" stickers selling at dollar stores, but you can't post the trailer online. Copyrights are intended to protect people from having their ideas stolen by another company who intends to make money off of it. Like say, If I came up with a cartoon about a crimefighting squid that sings Punk metal songs... that means if someone comes out with a cartoon about a crime fighting octopus who hip hops and looks the same, but has a slightly different color they'd get sued. But the truth is copyrights protect talentless wealthy guys who buy up whatever they can as an investment. Ripoffs and knockoffs are almost entirely glazed over now. look at Coconut Fred's Fruit Salad Island. How come the hell Nickelodeon didn't sick their rottweiler lawyers on Warners, but they sick them on people who use clips of Spongebob to random music who want to show that they appreciate the shows? I am somehow not surprised that Warners is part of this copyright gestapo. They have ruined themselves with bulls***** like Loonatics Unleashed, and they refuse to put Duck Dodgers and Tiny Toons on DVD, but will threaten legal action to pull the clips off Youtube. hey. You're not making any money off of it. Why must you insist on keeping it in a guarded cave and not using it? __________________ [Insert mildly amusing banner here]

08-14-2007, 08:41 AM	#32
Drtooth Foot Elite Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 4,439	Teen titans at least has Comic Book geek appeal. I'm thrilled and actually surprised they even released Animaniacs and Pinky and the Brain (in multiple volumes, yet). Meanwhile the Hanna Barbera line of DVD's somehow is running out of gas enough for them to release "Wait till your Father Gets Home", but they didn't bother trying to figure out how to sell Atom Ant/ Secret Squirrel show DVD's. The Animaniacs DVD's were pretty successful... you'd think they'd inquire about Freakazoid and Tiny toons by now, since they've finished Pinky and the Brain. But why no Duck Dodgers? Are you going to keep that in a vault and never see it again and then release every horrible show you do now? __________________ [Insert mildly amusing banner here]

08-12-2007, 01:38 AM	#25
Aelia Hamfisted Bun Vendor Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Wilmington, NC Posts: 1,582	I wouldn't have a problem with Youtube cracking down like this if they'd be a little less harsh. They're taking down fanmade stuff too.

08-12-2007, 03:04 PM	#28
Warhorse Emperor Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 5,544	I always thought the copyright thing was just so people cant take the copywrited material and sell it. But for some sort of collage to show people what you like, and show some unique spin and creativity with a character or a video you used to like, as long as you dont use it for profit, shouldn't be bothering anyone! But then again, the big corporations seem to be the old slave drivers rearing their ugly heads, and now that they got sleepers in power to do their bidding, it's just a matter of time before they turn anyone who isn't making 1 billion a year into obedient pieces of horse flesh!

08-12-2007, 03:22 PM	#29
Ledezman Mouser Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Costa Rica Posts: 13	This copyrights stuff is so filled with legal loopholes and oddities. There is an interesting documentary that deals with music copyrights and how the business is evolving because of Internet and file sharing. Maybe you have already seen it, but if you don't, check it out. It shows some interesting points of view. http://www.goodcopybadcopy.net/

08-14-2007, 08:51 AM	#33
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,301	I no longer have a youtube for this very reason....I assumed it was just my full Animaniacs shorts (Little Drummer Warners and Hooked on a Ceiling) but it may have been my TMNT music video too? Great, thanks You Tube. And they didn't send me a "We're gonna delete your account" notice either, just went to check feedback on a video, and I was gone. Anyone else have this happen? __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

08-14-2007, 09:38 AM	#34
Drtooth Foot Elite Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 4,439	Your fault on that one. maybe you should have done rediculously dangerous stunts, or had a bunch of teenage girls fight each other and tape it. You know, cuz Youtube values human safety over copyrights. __________________ [Insert mildly amusing banner here]

08-28-2007, 09:23 PM	#36
Drtooth Foot Elite Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 4,439	Only a few more days until Adolf the copywrite fairy kills free speach again. __________________ [Insert mildly amusing banner here]

08-29-2007, 01:47 PM	#37
Slash Stone Warrior Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 630	All it takes is for like a place in Asia or elsewhere to set up a new youtube.com like site and we are good to go. US laws do not stop or hold elsewhere! __________________

08-29-2007, 01:51 PM	#38
GK Punk I'm your Devil Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,439	psst. copyright laws are international.

08-29-2007, 11:10 PM	#40
GK Punk I'm your Devil Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,439	It wouldn't stop them from trying though. We all know this.