SSBB Thread: IT'S OUT!!!!!!!!!! - Page 5

**ThirdMarioBro** · 08-14-2007, 10:26 PM

The Goroh assist trophy is listed under the F-Zero icon. That pretty much relieves most worries about Falcon, even if he is a dead franchise. Removing Ness though would be a crime. Mother fans already get enough sh*t.

Peanut · 08-14-2007, 10:33 PM

Yeah, but Sakurai said Ness wasn't even supposed to be in Melee. And it was only because he ran out of time that he threw him back in there. With all the time he's had to work on Brawl now, I wouldn't be surprised if he did what he meant to in Melee.

*Deathknight* · 08-15-2007, 12:09 AM

I think a lot of people would've been pissed if Ness wasn't in Melee. He was a very popular character in the original. I know I would've been upset, I always enjoyed using him in the original and I still do use him some in Melee. I really hate how they're not having everyone return. Every character has a point to them and are used by certain people. Clones like Dr. Mario I can understand getting rid of because they're so similiar it's silly but when you compare play styles of Fox and Falco it's just so different even though Falco is still technically a clone of Fox. They should just do what they did to Luigi in Melee and make them more different so they're not so much clones anymore.

**ThirdMarioBro** · 08-15-2007, 03:18 AM

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/index.html

Stickers. May not sound like much to some, but I collect video game artwork, so this is huge to me.

*Mecha Cow* · 08-15-2007, 10:31 AM

Yeah, okay, this is the lamest update yet.

Peanut · 08-15-2007, 11:11 AM

Yeah...seriously. Totally lame. Even worse than the "You Must Recover!" update. Having artwork unlockables on the level of the trophies from Melee would be totally sweet, but this...this is stupid.

*Deathknight* · 08-15-2007, 11:52 AM

No, nothing will ever beat the you must recover update. That was so lame. At least this talks about something new to the game.

*Dr. Doom* · 08-15-2007, 12:48 PM

I don't expect that they mean for the stickers to replace the trophies. It seems to me like they'd probably have both.

Anyways, something I noticed is that the Franklin Badge post uses the little Mother icon, which Ness fans can probably take to mean he's in there. I'm going off the idea that if we see an icon like that, we're getting a character to represent it (and if you're keeping score, that means I expect an Animal Crossing character to be playable).

**ThirdMarioBro** · 08-15-2007, 02:23 PM

That Animal Crossing stage had just about every relevant AC character in attendance, so I'm not entirely sure what they plan on doing there.

Peanut · 08-15-2007, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Doom

Anyways, something I noticed is that the Franklin Badge post uses the little Mother icon, which Ness fans can probably take to mean he's in there. I'm going off the idea that if we see an icon like that, we're getting a character to represent it (and if you're keeping score, that means I expect an Animal Crossing character to be playable).

But also take note that the Franklin Badge was featured much more prominently in Mother 3 in Japan. Add that to Sakurai wanting to ditch Ness, and Lucas apparently becoming much more popular in Japan than Ness ever was, and you may see where things are going.

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Originally Posted by ThirdMarioBro

That Animal Crossing stage had just about every relevant AC character in attendance, so I'm not entirely sure what they plan on doing there.

That's what gets to me. The fact that the two most likely AC characters, Tom Nook, K.K. Slider and Tortimer, both appear in the stage. The only possible thing now would be, again, some kind of tag-team/swap out (ala PT) thing involving some of the most popular villagers, which is unlikely, or just an "Animal Crosser" who uses the net/fishing rod/shovel etc etc. However, the fact that Mr. Resetti shows up nowhere in the stage says to me that he'll 100% be an assist trophy.

**ThirdMarioBro** · 08-15-2007, 03:47 PM

I know one assist trophy they just have to have. The Mii Parade stampede.

Peanut · 08-15-2007, 04:36 PM

NO! Keep the damn Mii's out of Brawl. Keep all that sh*t to the other Wii games! Just looking at those things makes me sick now.

*Mecha Cow* · 08-15-2007, 05:09 PM

The Animal Crossing character might be Mr. Resetti. Doesn't seem like a worthy character if you ask me, but I wouldn't know who else they could put in. I fully expect a playable AC character though since the series has its own icon, a distinction reserved for playable characters (Note how Dr. Wright or the Devil don't have their own icons). By extension, I also expect Cpt. Falcon and Ness to return.

And maybe the Miis will replace the wire frame guys.

**ThirdMarioBro** · 08-15-2007, 06:04 PM

No, that would suck ass.

*Mecha Cow* · 08-15-2007, 06:25 PM

YOUR MOM suc-Must behave...

Peanut · 08-15-2007, 06:33 PM

I think we should all be in agreement that the casual sh*t should stay the hell out of our games. The Mii's represent everything I hate about the new Nintendo, so I'd rather have as few references to them in Brawl as possible.

**ThirdMarioBro** · 08-15-2007, 06:49 PM

I'll side with you. This Smash Bros. (and probably the last one) is the embodiment of everything classic Nintendo; something which is dying out rather quickly.

*Deathknight* · 08-15-2007, 09:18 PM

So if Lucas is becoming more popular have both in there. You shouldn't get rid of a classic character if a newer one becomes more popular, that's just lame. This is supposed to be Nintendo's allstars and I think Ness is still a big enough star to get a spot.

**Barkworm** · 08-15-2007, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Peanut

I think we should all be in agreement that the casual sh*t should stay the hell out of our games.

Amen to that but the f*cking Nintendogs are already in it so I wouldn't get my hopes high.

**ThirdMarioBro** · 08-16-2007, 06:20 PM

The more I think about it, the more I think we'll get a character from Square. Mario Hoops 3-on-3 was developed by Square, who made the bulk of the profit from the game, and it featured unlockable Square characters done in the whole "SMB2 Dream" style. You scratch my back, I scratch yours. Same reasoning behind Sonic with the Olympic games being developed by Sega (for Wii & DS, both of which are a waggle fest if my time with the game was any indication) who will get the majority of the cash......yeah. Mario & Pac-Man crossed over back in 2003 as well, and then again in a sh*tty arcade Mario Kart. Both came from Namco, who again, made most of the money.

And let's face it. Nintendo and Hudson have been in bed for almost a decade (Mario Party), and there's more TurboGrafx-16 stuff on the Virtual Console than NES. Bomberman perhaps?

08-14-2007, 10:26 PM	#81
ThirdMarioBro Tea Time! Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,905	The Goroh assist trophy is listed under the F-Zero icon. That pretty much relieves most worries about Falcon, even if he is a dead franchise. Removing Ness though would be a crime. Mother fans already get enough sh*t. __________________

08-15-2007, 12:09 AM	#83
Deathknight Mad Scientist Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: One of the 972 rooms of the technodrome Posts: 1,995	I think a lot of people would've been pissed if Ness wasn't in Melee. He was a very popular character in the original. I know I would've been upset, I always enjoyed using him in the original and I still do use him some in Melee. I really hate how they're not having everyone return. Every character has a point to them and are used by certain people. Clones like Dr. Mario I can understand getting rid of because they're so similiar it's silly but when you compare play styles of Fox and Falco it's just so different even though Falco is still technically a clone of Fox. They should just do what they did to Luigi in Melee and make them more different so they're not so much clones anymore. __________________ Shredder: "Ninja hall of fame? Ha! Where's MY statue?!" -My Brother, the Bad Guy

08-15-2007, 03:18 AM	#84
ThirdMarioBro Tea Time! Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,905	http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/index.html Stickers. May not sound like much to some, but I collect video game artwork, so this is huge to me. __________________

08-15-2007, 10:31 AM	#85
Mecha Cow Gorgeous and modest too Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 3,699	Yeah, okay, this is the lamest update yet. __________________

08-15-2007, 11:52 AM	#87
Deathknight Mad Scientist Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: One of the 972 rooms of the technodrome Posts: 1,995	No, nothing will ever beat the you must recover update. That was so lame. At least this talks about something new to the game. __________________ Shredder: "Ninja hall of fame? Ha! Where's MY statue?!" -My Brother, the Bad Guy

08-14-2007, 10:33 PM	#82
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	Yeah, but Sakurai said Ness wasn't even supposed to be in Melee. And it was only because he ran out of time that he threw him back in there. With all the time he's had to work on Brawl now, I wouldn't be surprised if he did what he meant to in Melee.

08-15-2007, 11:11 AM	#86
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	Yeah...seriously. Totally lame. Even worse than the "You Must Recover!" update. Having artwork unlockables on the level of the trophies from Melee would be totally sweet, but this...this is stupid.

08-15-2007, 12:48 PM	#88
Dr. Doom Allons-y! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Castle Doom Posts: 4,535	I don't expect that they mean for the stickers to replace the trophies. It seems to me like they'd probably have both. Anyways, something I noticed is that the Franklin Badge post uses the little Mother icon, which Ness fans can probably take to mean he's in there. I'm going off the idea that if we see an icon like that, we're getting a character to represent it (and if you're keeping score, that means I expect an Animal Crossing character to be playable). __________________ I love you, Pickle.

08-15-2007, 02:23 PM	#89
ThirdMarioBro Tea Time! Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,905	That Animal Crossing stage had just about every relevant AC character in attendance, so I'm not entirely sure what they plan on doing there. __________________

08-15-2007, 03:47 PM	#91
ThirdMarioBro Tea Time! Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,905	I know one assist trophy they just have to have. The Mii Parade stampede. __________________

08-15-2007, 04:36 PM	#92
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	NO! Keep the damn Mii's out of Brawl. Keep all that sh*t to the other Wii games! Just looking at those things makes me sick now.

08-15-2007, 05:09 PM	#93
Mecha Cow Gorgeous and modest too Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 3,699	The Animal Crossing character might be Mr. Resetti. Doesn't seem like a worthy character if you ask me, but I wouldn't know who else they could put in. I fully expect a playable AC character though since the series has its own icon, a distinction reserved for playable characters (Note how Dr. Wright or the Devil don't have their own icons). By extension, I also expect Cpt. Falcon and Ness to return. And maybe the Miis will replace the wire frame guys. __________________

08-15-2007, 06:04 PM	#94
ThirdMarioBro Tea Time! Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,905	No, that would suck ass. __________________

08-15-2007, 06:25 PM	#95
Mecha Cow Gorgeous and modest too Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 3,699	YOUR MOM suc-Must behave... __________________

08-15-2007, 06:33 PM	#96
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	I think we should all be in agreement that the casual sh*t should stay the hell out of our games. The Mii's represent everything I hate about the new Nintendo, so I'd rather have as few references to them in Brawl as possible.

08-15-2007, 06:49 PM	#97
ThirdMarioBro Tea Time! Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,905	I'll side with you. This Smash Bros. (and probably the last one) is the embodiment of everything classic Nintendo; something which is dying out rather quickly. __________________

08-15-2007, 09:18 PM	#98
Deathknight Mad Scientist Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: One of the 972 rooms of the technodrome Posts: 1,995	So if Lucas is becoming more popular have both in there. You shouldn't get rid of a classic character if a newer one becomes more popular, that's just lame. This is supposed to be Nintendo's allstars and I think Ness is still a big enough star to get a spot. __________________ Shredder: "Ninja hall of fame? Ha! Where's MY statue?!" -My Brother, the Bad Guy

08-16-2007, 06:20 PM	#100
ThirdMarioBro Tea Time! Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,905	The more I think about it, the more I think we'll get a character from Square. Mario Hoops 3-on-3 was developed by Square, who made the bulk of the profit from the game, and it featured unlockable Square characters done in the whole "SMB2 Dream" style. You scratch my back, I scratch yours. Same reasoning behind Sonic with the Olympic games being developed by Sega (for Wii & DS, both of which are a waggle fest if my time with the game was any indication) who will get the majority of the cash......yeah. Mario & Pac-Man crossed over back in 2003 as well, and then again in a sh*tty arcade Mario Kart. Both came from Namco, who again, made most of the money. And let's face it. Nintendo and Hudson have been in bed for almost a decade (Mario Party), and there's more TurboGrafx-16 stuff on the Virtual Console than NES. Bomberman perhaps? __________________