Spider-Man Animated Series Highlights

~~AquaParade~~ · 08-22-2007, 04:40 PM

I can never decide how I feel about this show. On one hand, I cant stand all the censoring, it really drives me nuts, but I love the comic book feel it gives me. I've decided once and for all to check the show out again and make a final opinion. The best episode I remember watching was the first one, Night of the Lizard, but I haven't seen every single one. Anyone have any reccomendations?
What'd you guys think of this show?

*ToTheNines* · 08-22-2007, 04:48 PM

I remember liking it as a kid, but I also remember being bored by it. Nowadays I like it better, my major gripe (and this pisses me off more than almost anything) is that when Blade was in it, he was F*CKING WHITE!! WHY?

*DrSpengler* · 08-22-2007, 04:52 PM

I thought the show started out really well as it gradually introduced Spider-Man's rogues gallery, but eventually spiralled horribly out of control by the end where every episode had someone being sucked into a vortex.

The CG buildings were lame but I dug how they included Peter's inner monolgue throughout the series made it stand out a bit and helped keep Peter a strong character.

It definately had its problems, but I felt the good outweighed the bad at least for the first couple of seasons.

I remember being giddy as a schoolgirl during the X-Men crossover.

*DrSpengler* · 08-22-2007, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines

I remember liking it as a kid, but I also remember being bored by it. Nowadays I like it better, my major gripe (and this pisses me off more than almost anything) is that when Blade was in it, he was F*CKING WHITE!! WHY?

I don't think he was white, just a very light-skinned black guy:

Spawn Guy · 08-22-2007, 05:05 PM

It's hasn't aged well. Looking at the episodes that aren't team ups I can honestly say the only thing I reason I liked it was because it was my first experience with Spidey. The voice acting makes me cringe.

*ToTheNines* · 08-22-2007, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by DrSpengler

I remember being giddy as a schoolgirl during the X-Men crossover.

I thought that was wicked too, when spidey and wolverine were fighing at the begining

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Dude, that's whiter than me.

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The voice acting makes me cringe.

Yeah, forgot to mention that. It's so awkward and corny (normally, not always).

*gobo* · 08-22-2007, 06:39 PM

Uhh... mocha Blade??

Time Mistress · 08-22-2007, 09:54 PM

I always liked the series. Loved the X-Men crossover and they did a good job with the black costume saga too I think (never read the original comics, but I enjoyed the storyline in the cartoon).

Sometimes, you just need to stick with a show from begining to end because it features your favorite character or whatever, even if you've had resevations about it before. For years I HATED Transformers Armada, but I recent found a used copy of the box set of part 2 and decided to give it one last try, it took a few episodes but all of a sudden the story has gotten amazingly good when before I could stand to sit through a full episode, and I thought "how could I have missed all these great episodes before," and I never would have seen them if I hated said, "okay I'll give this series one last chance." So if you love Spidey, I say give the series a chance, watch it from beginning to end, and if it still sucks, go forth justified in the fact that you did watch it all and you can truly say that you know what you are talking about when you tell others it sucks. Love it or hate it, watch it so other Spidey fans might profit from your wisdom.

I had no idea at all who Blade was before the Spidey series and had no trouble realizing he was a black hero so I really don't see what all the fuss is about.

Jon · 08-23-2007, 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Time Mistress

Sometimes, you just need to stick with a show from begining to end because it features your favorite character or whatever, even if you've had resevations about it before. For years I HATED Transformers Armada, but I recent found a used copy of the box set of part 2 and decided to give it one last try, it took a few episodes but all of a sudden the story has gotten amazingly good when before I could stand to sit through a full episode, and I thought "how could I have missed all these great episodes before," and I never would have seen them if I hated said, "okay I'll give this series one last chance."

Yeah, Armada starts out rather slow, but when it did pick-up it did so rather quickly.
While talking of this, will also note some Transformers series are currently avalaible at BJs Wholsale stores (seen Beast Wars Season 1, Beast Machines: Complete Series and both Armada Sets -- as I recall, each $29.99).

I had similar reservations about Digimon Season 3 (Tamers), with it's change from the past 2 Seasons and rather awkward start. But then caught some later episodes, and really got into it.

*ZariusTwo* · 08-23-2007, 10:06 AM

Armada is the only exception out of the three Unicron Trilogy animes. It was fan reaction that forced an angered Hasbro to slam the animators and writers and make their story better, thats when we got The Unicron Battles, thats where we got Alexis and Starscream, thats when we got "Clamp" and "Mortal Combat"

Sadly, the same success was not met with Energon and Cybertron, both tried to be too "big" and fell flat on their faces. Cybertron/Galaxy Force is also vastly overrated because it finally got Starscream right, and he stole the series with his Ancient Decepticon arc and his ruthlessness.

As for Digimon Tamers...aside from the first it remains THE essential Digimon series. It was much darker than even the best of the Pokemon movies , there is virtually NO upswing, it doesnt soften anything for inexperianced viewers, many of its characters are traumatised and forced into very dangerous situations that they cannot handle in contrast to the others due to this being a "realist" look at what the show would be like.

Spider-Man TAS still holds up and is still one of the best Spidey series. A lot of people p*ss on it for things that are honestly not their fault, but that of Avi Avrad and FOX. John Semper's "Vortexes" were good substitutes for things he couldnt get away with, and he at least made all of them work with his storylines (Norman was "killed off", but he still influenced Harry to become the Goblin from another dimension, despite the lack of explanation, and the Carnage sybmiote created Spider-Carnage)

Jon · 08-23-2007, 11:27 AM

Well, kinda get what you're feeling on them. But I still figure Energon and Cybertron were good series; with their own 'epic-story' routines.

For Digimon, yeah Tamers had more 'real danger' feel. But the others had some of it (at times, at least). So were good ones in their own ways, too.

Peanut · 08-23-2007, 02:51 PM

Tamers puts utter shame to season 2 of Digimon. I think Digimon Adventure stands up a little better, simply because it was the first and had a more likable cast of characters. I really can't stand to watch season 2, anymore. Whether it has to do with the fact that it takes some 20 episodes for them to deal with the ridiculous "control spires" or the fact that the characters were just kind of annoying, I don't know. Ken really seemed to be like the only character they felt like spending ANY time on. Cody got his moments, but the other 4 characters were pretty much cut-outs. And season 4...I'd rather not talk about at all.

I think the new series, Savers, (I think Data Squad here?) is going to fall nicely in-line between seasons 1 and 3. It's not overly dark, but there's some serious character development, and things do get really dark in some areas.

*ZariusTwo* · 08-23-2007, 02:56 PM

Oh it's fine if you like them, but to me, Energon is just...slow, nothing happens, it's the most boring TF series I have ever watched, and I've seen HEADMASTERS, which even the most blatantly absurd and offensive stunt like blowing up Seibertron bores me to death. Energon is a virtual SLUG of a series that does'nt get interesting, though it has excellent concepts, such as using Primus and the schizophrensic, tragic Alpha Q

*Spike Spiegel* · 08-24-2007, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Time Mistress

I had no idea at all who Blade was before the Spidey series and had no trouble realizing he was a black hero so I really don't see what all the fuss is about.

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Originally Posted by gobo

Uhh... mocha Blade??

That kind of made me chuckle a bit. Except for Robbie Robertson, the Prowler, and Glory Grant, all the black charatcters on Spider-Man TAS kind of looked mocha, like Lietenant Terri Lee.

*DrSpengler* · 08-24-2007, 02:22 PM

I wonder if that was TMS' fault. Japanese studios aren't always that good at drawing black people. They either look like big-lipped afro-sporting stereotypes or caucassians with really nice tans.

08-22-2007, 04:40 PM	#1
~~AquaParade~~ Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 8,450	Spider-Man Animated Series Highlights I can never decide how I feel about this show. On one hand, I cant stand all the censoring, it really drives me nuts, but I love the comic book feel it gives me. I've decided once and for all to check the show out again and make a final opinion. The best episode I remember watching was the first one, Night of the Lizard, but I haven't seen every single one. Anyone have any reccomendations? What'd you guys think of this show?

08-22-2007, 05:05 PM	#5
Spawn Guy Mad Scientist Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Earth 616 Posts: 1,481	It's hasn't aged well. Looking at the episodes that aren't team ups I can honestly say the only thing I reason I liked it was because it was my first experience with Spidey. The voice acting makes me cringe. __________________ *THE TECHNODROME'S LITTLE YELLOW BOX LOVER* madpiratebunny (19:26:51): oh goodness, I've got an idea SpawnGuyThing (19:26:57): Do tell madpiratebunny (19:27:02): nononono madpiratebunny (19:27:05): no telling SpawnGuyThing (19:27:10): ... SpawnGuyThing (19:27:27): But I'm the imaginery friend you always wanted SpawnGuyThing (19:27:36): Your supposed to tell me everything

08-22-2007, 06:39 PM	#7
gobo Wacky Action Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: on Earth Posts: 12,784	Uhh... mocha Blade?? __________________ Live and let live... or go to hell.

08-22-2007, 09:54 PM	#8
Time Mistress Stone Warrior Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Pennshellvania, or the 79th level of Null-Time Posts: 710	I always liked the series. Loved the X-Men crossover and they did a good job with the black costume saga too I think (never read the original comics, but I enjoyed the storyline in the cartoon). Sometimes, you just need to stick with a show from begining to end because it features your favorite character or whatever, even if you've had resevations about it before. For years I HATED Transformers Armada, but I recent found a used copy of the box set of part 2 and decided to give it one last try, it took a few episodes but all of a sudden the story has gotten amazingly good when before I could stand to sit through a full episode, and I thought "how could I have missed all these great episodes before," and I never would have seen them if I hated said, "okay I'll give this series one last chance." So if you love Spidey, I say give the series a chance, watch it from beginning to end, and if it still sucks, go forth justified in the fact that you did watch it all and you can truly say that you know what you are talking about when you tell others it sucks. Love it or hate it, watch it so other Spidey fans might profit from your wisdom. I had no idea at all who Blade was before the Spidey series and had no trouble realizing he was a black hero so I really don't see what all the fuss is about. __________________ AKA the Edwardian Adventuress and Fairlady_Z "You just made your last mistake, Bugeyes -- 'cuz nobody beats up my best buddy and gets away with it -- Nobody! Got that?!" Raphael about Michaelangelo, TMNT Volume 1 Last edited by Time Mistress; 08-22-2007 at 10:03 PM.

08-23-2007, 10:06 AM	#10
ZariusTwo Overlord Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Britain, DINO THUNDER...POWER UP! Posts: 22,494	Armada is the only exception out of the three Unicron Trilogy animes. It was fan reaction that forced an angered Hasbro to slam the animators and writers and make their story better, thats when we got The Unicron Battles, thats where we got Alexis and Starscream, thats when we got "Clamp" and "Mortal Combat" Sadly, the same success was not met with Energon and Cybertron, both tried to be too "big" and fell flat on their faces. Cybertron/Galaxy Force is also vastly overrated because it finally got Starscream right, and he stole the series with his Ancient Decepticon arc and his ruthlessness. As for Digimon Tamers...aside from the first it remains THE essential Digimon series. It was much darker than even the best of the Pokemon movies , there is virtually NO upswing, it doesnt soften anything for inexperianced viewers, many of its characters are traumatised and forced into very dangerous situations that they cannot handle in contrast to the others due to this being a "realist" look at what the show would be like. Spider-Man TAS still holds up and is still one of the best Spidey series. A lot of people pss on it for things that are honestly not their fault, but that of Avi Avrad and FOX. John Semper's "Vortexes" were good substitutes for things he couldnt get away with, and he at least made all of them work with his storylines (Norman was "killed off", but he still influenced Harry to become the Goblin from another dimension, despite the lack of explanation, and the Carnage sybmiote created Spider-Carnage) __________________ Spider-Man: The Rescue* Spider-Man: The Galloping Cat Spider-Man: Scarlet Mirror Doctor Who: Child of the Daleks Last edited by ZariusTwo; 08-23-2007 at 10:14 AM.

08-22-2007, 04:48 PM	#2
ToTheNines Col. Stinkmeaner Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 19,366	I remember liking it as a kid, but I also remember being bored by it. Nowadays I like it better, my major gripe (and this pisses me off more than almost anything) is that when Blade was in it, he was F*CKING WHITE!! WHY?

08-22-2007, 04:52 PM	#3
DrSpengler Foot Elite Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 4,842	I thought the show started out really well as it gradually introduced Spider-Man's rogues gallery, but eventually spiralled horribly out of control by the end where every episode had someone being sucked into a vortex. The CG buildings were lame but I dug how they included Peter's inner monolgue throughout the series made it stand out a bit and helped keep Peter a strong character. It definately had its problems, but I felt the good outweighed the bad at least for the first couple of seasons. I remember being giddy as a schoolgirl during the X-Men crossover.

08-23-2007, 11:27 AM	#11
Jon Mad Scientist Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,356	Well, kinda get what you're feeling on them. But I still figure Energon and Cybertron were good series; with their own 'epic-story' routines. For Digimon, yeah Tamers had more 'real danger' feel. But the others had some of it (at times, at least). So were good ones in their own ways, too.

08-23-2007, 02:51 PM	#12
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	Tamers puts utter shame to season 2 of Digimon. I think Digimon Adventure stands up a little better, simply because it was the first and had a more likable cast of characters. I really can't stand to watch season 2, anymore. Whether it has to do with the fact that it takes some 20 episodes for them to deal with the ridiculous "control spires" or the fact that the characters were just kind of annoying, I don't know. Ken really seemed to be like the only character they felt like spending ANY time on. Cody got his moments, but the other 4 characters were pretty much cut-outs. And season 4...I'd rather not talk about at all. I think the new series, Savers, (I think Data Squad here?) is going to fall nicely in-line between seasons 1 and 3. It's not overly dark, but there's some serious character development, and things do get really dark in some areas.

08-23-2007, 02:56 PM	#13
ZariusTwo Overlord Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Britain, DINO THUNDER...POWER UP! Posts: 22,494	Oh it's fine if you like them, but to me, Energon is just...slow, nothing happens, it's the most boring TF series I have ever watched, and I've seen HEADMASTERS, which even the most blatantly absurd and offensive stunt like blowing up Seibertron bores me to death. Energon is a virtual SLUG of a series that does'nt get interesting, though it has excellent concepts, such as using Primus and the schizophrensic, tragic Alpha Q __________________ Spider-Man: The Rescue Spider-Man: The Galloping Cat Spider-Man: Scarlet Mirror Doctor Who: Child of the Daleks

08-24-2007, 02:22 PM	#15
DrSpengler Foot Elite Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 4,842	I wonder if that was TMS' fault. Japanese studios aren't always that good at drawing black people. They either look like big-lipped afro-sporting stereotypes or caucassians with really nice tans.