Best Era for Animated Shows? - Page 2

*VaughnMichael* · 08-24-2007, 11:49 AM

Yeah the 80's are just so bad that's why almost every single new toy line and movie out is based on a show on property from the 80's because they can't think of anything new or better.

Dude the late 70's through early 90's rocked for cartoons. We wont ever get cartoons like that ever again and I'm happy to say I lived through that time period as a kid.

*ZariusTwo* · 08-24-2007, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by nahhan-

I like how you take kids' cartoons so seriously.

So do animators and animation writers. Historians are no different. Thanks for complimenting about how much I give a damn about this buisness, because these "modernist" assholes never will.

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Originally Posted by Ai

I enjoyed 80's cartoons. What was wrong with them?

Virtually nothing, but listen to any "modernist" pot/kettle/black fan and they'll say "Toyz commercialz, badz animationz, continuity errorz" and refuse to see some of the 1990s series were flawed and toy commercials as well. The best fans are the ones who can find something great in all periods (Star Trek: TAS in the 1970s for instance), the instant some twat baits anyone with the "memory" card though? He/she is looking for a fight

*Spike Spiegel* · 08-24-2007, 01:24 PM

I voted 1990s, that's what I grew up in. The cartoons that I have seen from the 80s like Transformers, GI Joe Thundercats("Hooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!"), etc are pretty good too.

I say 90s because of:

-Batman TAS, the king of modern action cartoons
-The Real Adventures of Jonny Quest
-Batman Beyond
-The New Batman/Superman Adventures
-Men in Black (this one, to me, comes in a close second or third place to the DCAU as a whole, not just Batman)
-X-Men
-Spider-Man TAS and Spider-Man Unlimited
-Cartoon Cartoons like Dexter, Johnny Bravo, and the Powerpuff Girls

If I had to narrow it down to one, I'd say the 90s, but I like stuff from late 1980s too.

Time Mistress · 08-24-2007, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Putrescent

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Dude the late 70's through early 90's rocked for cartoons. We wont ever get cartoons like that ever again and I'm happy to say I lived through that time period as a kid.

I voted for the 80s because that's when Transformers and TMNT began but I really believe the statement above. The 90s rocked for cartoons and the late 70s also covers my childhood as well, so it was a tough choice. There were so many good ones I'm not sure I can even remember them all! 95-96 has one of the best season EVER for cartoons.

80s
Transformers
TMNT
Jem
ThunderCats
SilverHawks
G.I. Joe
Tigersharks
Galaxy Rangers
Smurfs
Snorks
Hong Kong Phooey
New Flintstones
New Scooby-Doo
Muppet Babies
Wildfire
Shirt Tales
Wuzzles
Gummi Bears
Ducktales
Chip & Dale Rescue Rangers
Garfield and Friends
Heathcliff and the Cadilac Cats
He-Man
She-Ra
My Little Pony
Superfriends
Spider-Man and His Amazing Friends
Mr. T
Alvin & the Chipmunks
Defenders of the Earth

90s
Animaniacs
Darkwing Duck
Tale Spin
More TMNT
Goof Troop
Bonkers
Raw Toonage
Gargoyles
X-Men
Spider-Man
Batman TAS
Fantastic 4
Iron Man
The Tick
New Adv. of Batman/Superman
Superman TAS
Batman Beyond
Phantom 2040
Beast Wars
Sailor Moon
Escaflowne
Powerpuff Girls

And I'm sure there is more I've forgotten.

*ToTheNines* · 08-24-2007, 03:01 PM

I voted for 90's, but 80's was a very close 2nd. I'm younger than all of you guys so I didn't see all of these 80's cartoons your'e talking about.

One great thing 90's cartoons was Nickelodeon. They had some great **** back then. Rocko's Modern Life, Hey Arnold!, Ren and Stimpy, Rug-rats, Doug (pretty ugly show, but enjoyable) among a few others... now look at it.

90's had some good anime too, mostly just Gundam Wing and Tenchi Muyo.

*ZariusTwo* · 08-24-2007, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines

I voted for 90's, but 80's was a very close 2nd. I'm younger than all of you guys so I didn't see all of these 80's cartoons your'e talking about.

Perhaps a little small sampling would help courtesy of Cereal Geek.

**ThirdMarioBro** · 08-24-2007, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

That mentality is typical of anyone who doesnt look closer, especially since He-Man, TMNT, GI Joe, Ghostbusters, Centurions, Bravestarr, Thundercats, and Transformers ALL rose above their intended purpose and told excellent storylines that set the course for your PRECIOUS 90s

And as for shows that werent "major" toylines, or even commercials at all..oooh lets see...Racoons, Galaxy Rangers Ralph Baski's Mighty Mouse, Defenders of the Earth...

You have NO argument

Oh yes master, I apoligize for even daring to consider that I, a mere mortal, could ever comprehend the capacity of your limitlessness knowledge and power.

I didn't say they were bad. I said that the majority of the were action figure commercials. That doesn't change the fact that they set the tone for the brilliant 90's era. Still, just because something was the innovator doesn't make it the superior choice.

In video game terms, its like saying Super Mario Bros. 3 is better than Super Mario World. SMB3 may have been the innovator, but that doesn't mean SMW didn't kick its ass in every conceivable way.

*Sewer Bull* · 08-24-2007, 03:18 PM

STFU all of you. I can't decide between 60s and 70s in all this gibbering.

*ZariusTwo* · 08-24-2007, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ThirdMarioBro

I didn't say they were bad. I said that the majority of the were action figure commercials.

And your point is?

The plots were great, that's all that matters. If you want to suddenly "care" about what you were roped into watching, and feel duped, then you're making a fuss out of nothing.

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That doesn't change the fact that they set the tone for the brilliant 90's era. Still, just because something was the innovator doesn't make it the superior choice.

Everything solid almost came 100% from Warner Bros or Disney in the last stages of their taking any risks. Fox Kids had many subversive comedies, but their biggest successes beyond Power Rangers were X-Men and Spiderman.

WB dominated the animation medium in the 90s stateside. In the 80s, the competitive toy companies created vast amounts of compeitive shows from various companies, sometimes leading to animation that was unprecidently superior to anything in the 90s given the money being paid to the animators.

The only exception was the unmatched Batman TAS, which was a goldmine for merchandising anyway.

And Mario World and Mario Bros 3 are both awesome and replayable titles. In short, you just said both the 1980s and 1990s were equals

Honestly, if you had'nt dropped that stupid "you only like it because of your memories" flamebait of a post, we wouldnt have had this problem,

Zog the Equalizer · 08-24-2007, 08:36 PM

90s all the way

Batman TAS
Superman TAS
Spider-man
Freakazoid
X-men
later seasons of TMNT
Animaniacs
and no anime
'nuf said

Ra · 08-24-2007, 08:51 PM

... *looks at all the posts before hand*

Can anyone explain to me why we are fighting over cartoons?

*Cure* · 08-24-2007, 10:00 PM

90's also had...

Pinky and the Brain
Hysteria
Mighty Max
Rocko's Modern Life
Dexter
Johnny Bravo
AAAAAAAAAAAAHHH! Real Monsters
Ren & Stimpy
Doug
Hey Arnold!
Spongebob (back when it was good)

*Revan* · 08-24-2007, 10:18 PM

wow, shocking that the 80s and 90s got basically all the votes... not. obviously people will vote for their childhood. me too. 90s all the way

*KROW* · 08-24-2007, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Looking back now...what? Whats the problem? Who the hell cares that they sold toys? He-Man, TF, Centurions, they all rose ABOVE their original intentions, or did'nt you read my last post over why this 80s bashing fad is so futile and hypocritical? Especially since the DCAU sold toys, and the NEW TMNT SELLS TOYS TOO!

No problem. I meant that looking back now, I realize there was another agenda behind them besides just making cartoons. As a kid, I didn't care. I just walked around the toy aisles and yelled to my mother, "I want it! I want it!" like most kids. Quite frankly, the thought that they at first released the cartoons just to sell toys doesn't affect me in the least. I'm glad they evolved over time into programs that are actually worth watching. I didn't mean to imply that I was hating on them. Sorry for that.

Hell, I'm not bashing 80s toons at all. I loved them then and still do now that I can relive the experience on DVD.

*VaughnMichael* · 08-24-2007, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Ra

... *looks at all the posts before hand*

Can anyone explain to me why we are fighting over cartoons?

Why not? people fight over everything else why not cartoons?

*ZariusTwo* · 08-25-2007, 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Ra

Can anyone explain to me why we are fighting over cartoons?

Its about respect for the industry and the fans of the 1980s, both of which some jackass went out of his way to try and degrade

Mandi-chan · 08-25-2007, 06:45 AM

I can't decide...I enjoy toons from all of the Eras! All thanks to Boomerang too, otherwise I probably wouldn't have seen any of the cool older cartoons.

The Terror of Death · 08-25-2007, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Ra

... *looks at all the posts before hand*

Can anyone explain to me why we are fighting over cartoons?

Cartoons - SERIOUS BUSINESS.

*Drtooth* · 08-25-2007, 11:53 AM

I have to admit... I can't vote. I just can't pick any of those. Each era had it's ups and downs....

I would say the entire list except 70's. the 70's had some of the worst cartoons known to man kind. thousands of self-knockoff stuff from Hanna Barbera, and animated versions of sitcoms.... no thank you. Hong Kong Phooey and Fat Albert, however were great.

I'd choose if it were an option the 40's. Lame WW 2 propaganda pieces aside, they moved out of the 1930's "Hey! Look what I can do" type cartoons (Flowers and Trees, for example) and into the "Look how I can Apply it". The best animated cartoons came out of Bugs Bunny, Tom and Jerry, Tex Avery, and all them. They are the masters.

1950's and 60's? Well, that was the television cartoon age. A new way to make and market cartoons just dawned. And thought the Animation wasn't perfect, we got great shows like Bullwinkle, Yogi Bear, etc.

Then there was the late 60's with 2 distinct movements, the superhero movement with shows like Space Ghost and Mighty Heroes, and the comedy movement, with George of the Jungle and Wacky races.

70's revolved around how many Archie/Scooby Do ripoffs we can created (it was more an era of live action kid's shows... Sesame Street, Sid and Morty Krofft stuff).

80's was toy-etci to an extent. I can't bash them, but I can't praise them. Each show was different. We had Transformers on one hand, and Ducktales on the other.

90's we saw a break through with shows like Ren and Stimpy and Batman. not to mention a short lived comedy Superhero movement brought on by the Tick.

2000.... the start of the decade had promise, but Looking at the horrible line up this fall... yeah.... we got another 1970's coming up! Yuck!

*Aelia* · 08-25-2007, 01:34 PM

I voted for the 90's. I'd make a list of cartoons I enjoyed during that time, but it'd be a repeat of a list already listed with maybe a few minor differences.

I wouldn't say the 2000's were totally devoid of good cartoons, just severely lacking, and anything that was truly good was canceled as quick as it came. If there was one cartoon I watched in the last seven years (2004-2005 to be more precise) that I honestly wish was on DVD, it would be Megas XLR. I'd make a list of cartoons I enjoyed aside from Megas XLR, but they're already available on DVD.

View Poll Results: Which decade had/has the best animated series?
The 1950s	1	1.56%
The 1960s	0	0%
The 1970s	1	1.56%
The 1980s	20	31.25%
The 1990s	36	56.25%
2000 onwards	6	9.38%
Voters: 64. You may not vote on this poll

08-24-2007, 03:18 PM	#28
Sewer Bull Devil's Advocate Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,768	STFU all of you. I can't decide between 60s and 70s in all this gibbering. __________________ Soooo... THIS* is how you spend your free time now?!*

08-24-2007, 08:36 PM	#30
Zog the Equalizer Stone Warrior Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Corpus Christi, Texas Posts: 534	90s all the way Batman TAS Superman TAS Spider-man Freakazoid X-men later seasons of TMNT Animaniacs and no anime 'nuf said __________________ "Pork rind?" "Pork rind!"

08-24-2007, 08:51 PM	#31
Ra It's my desire? Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: In your pants. Posts: 4,441	... looks at all the posts before hand Can anyone explain to me why we are fighting over cartoons? __________________ "So. The whole lot of you against little old me? How retarded."

08-24-2007, 10:00 PM	#32
Cure Y'all need Jesus Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 8,938	90's also had... Pinky and the Brain Hysteria Mighty Max Rocko's Modern Life Dexter Johnny Bravo AAAAAAAAAAAAHHH! Real Monsters Ren & Stimpy Doug Hey Arnold! Spongebob (back when it was good) __________________

08-24-2007, 11:49 AM	#21
VaughnMichael I'm Baaaaaaccck! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 11,833	Yeah the 80's are just so bad that's why almost every single new toy line and movie out is based on a show on property from the 80's because they can't think of anything new or better. Dude the late 70's through early 90's rocked for cartoons. We wont ever get cartoons like that ever again and I'm happy to say I lived through that time period as a kid.

08-24-2007, 03:01 PM	#25
ToTheNines Col. Stinkmeaner Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 19,366	I voted for 90's, but 80's was a very close 2nd. I'm younger than all of you guys so I didn't see all of these 80's cartoons your'e talking about. One great thing 90's cartoons was Nickelodeon. They had some great **** back then. Rocko's Modern Life, Hey Arnold!, Ren and Stimpy, Rug-rats, Doug (pretty ugly show, but enjoyable) among a few others... now look at it. 90's had some good anime too, mostly just Gundam Wing and Tenchi Muyo.

08-24-2007, 10:18 PM	#33
Revan Han Shot First Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Paper Street Soap Company Posts: 3,687	wow, shocking that the 80s and 90s got basically all the votes... not. obviously people will vote for their childhood. me too. 90s all the way __________________

08-25-2007, 06:45 AM	#37
Mandi-chan Stone Warrior Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 932	I can't decide...I enjoy toons from all of the Eras! All thanks to Boomerang too, otherwise I probably wouldn't have seen any of the cool older cartoons.

08-25-2007, 11:53 AM	#39
Drtooth Foot Elite Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 4,439	I have to admit... I can't vote. I just can't pick any of those. Each era had it's ups and downs.... I would say the entire list except 70's. the 70's had some of the worst cartoons known to man kind. thousands of self-knockoff stuff from Hanna Barbera, and animated versions of sitcoms.... no thank you. Hong Kong Phooey and Fat Albert, however were great. I'd choose if it were an option the 40's. Lame WW 2 propaganda pieces aside, they moved out of the 1930's "Hey! Look what I can do" type cartoons (Flowers and Trees, for example) and into the "Look how I can Apply it". The best animated cartoons came out of Bugs Bunny, Tom and Jerry, Tex Avery, and all them. They are the masters. 1950's and 60's? Well, that was the television cartoon age. A new way to make and market cartoons just dawned. And thought the Animation wasn't perfect, we got great shows like Bullwinkle, Yogi Bear, etc. Then there was the late 60's with 2 distinct movements, the superhero movement with shows like Space Ghost and Mighty Heroes, and the comedy movement, with George of the Jungle and Wacky races. 70's revolved around how many Archie/Scooby Do ripoffs we can created (it was more an era of live action kid's shows... Sesame Street, Sid and Morty Krofft stuff). 80's was toy-etci to an extent. I can't bash them, but I can't praise them. Each show was different. We had Transformers on one hand, and Ducktales on the other. 90's we saw a break through with shows like Ren and Stimpy and Batman. not to mention a short lived comedy Superhero movement brought on by the Tick. 2000.... the start of the decade had promise, but Looking at the horrible line up this fall... yeah.... we got another 1970's coming up! Yuck! __________________ [Insert mildly amusing banner here]

08-25-2007, 01:34 PM	#40
Aelia Hamfisted Bun Vendor Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Wilmington, NC Posts: 1,582	I voted for the 90's. I'd make a list of cartoons I enjoyed during that time, but it'd be a repeat of a list already listed with maybe a few minor differences. I wouldn't say the 2000's were totally devoid of good cartoons, just severely lacking, and anything that was truly good was canceled as quick as it came. If there was one cartoon I watched in the last seven years (2004-2005 to be more precise) that I honestly wish was on DVD, it would be Megas XLR. I'd make a list of cartoons I enjoyed aside from Megas XLR, but they're already available on DVD.