Superman: Doomsday

[gobo]

I was trying to find this thread two days ago, but kept getting sidetracked.

Spoiler:

I found this to be even less pleasing than I expected. Heche's Lane had a few lines that she made me cringe with(it was just too 'drama queen' at times). The super-defined cheek-bones on Clark/Superman were unsightly. And, my most favorite part of the saga, the return of Superman, was replaced with a plot so uninspired that I almost fell asleep. Granted, I didn't expect to see any other superheros at the funeral or even that there would be more than one character masquerading as Superman during the return act. The Kevin Smith-inspired parts were neat, but a bit out of place here. I just expected that I would be more pleased with it than I was.

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by Spitfire666xXxXx

Those Made for DVD Marvel movies look horrid every time a new turtles DVD comes out I see a trailer for one.

Oh they are, no question. Ultimate Avengers is like reading a nursery edition of the first story. Virtually nothing is there, the best performances are from the leading antagonist (Banner) and Fury, Black Widow (whose role in The Ultimates is one bitch of a traitor) does virtually nothing to establish her character and is just seen as Fury's right-hand woman and Cap's busty girlfreind, rather than Iron Man's.

The sequel is a slight improvement in violence and story, but its not remotley an Ultimates tale, and the cliche of having the Nazi alien from WWII Cap fought retain his old uniform throughout the sequel is laughable.

The star of the films is undoubtedly The Hulk, nothing remotley changed. Banner's a victim, but also an asshole, his journey from selfish to selfless is the most mature and well-handled of two movies that spend a lot of time making people shout and brood a lot.

[Dr. Doom]

Dr. Strange looked kinda cool.

[Spawn Guy]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Oh they are, no question. Ultimate Avengers is like reading a nursery edition of the first story. Virtually nothing is there, the best performances are from the leading antagonist (Banner) and Fury, Black Widow (whose role in The Ultimates is one bitch of a traitor) does virtually nothing to establish her character and is just seen as Fury's right-hand woman and Cap's busty girlfreind, rather than Iron Man's.

The sequel is a slight improvement in violence and story, but its not remotley an Ultimates tale, and the cliche of having the Nazi alien from WWII Cap fought retain his old uniform throughout the sequel is laughable.

The star of the films is undoubtedly The Hulk, nothing remotley changed. Banner's a victim, but also an asshole, his journey from selfish to selfless is the most mature and well-handled of two movies that spend a lot of time making people shout and brood a lot.

I thought you didn't like the Ultimates...

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by Spawn Guy

I thought you didn't like the Ultimates...

Nor do I like bad adaptations of it.

[Raph's Girl]

I thought this was a pretty good film. Not as good as Dr. Strange (which I loved) but definatly WAY better than Iron Man or the crappy Ultimates films.

Spoiler:

Kevin Smith's cameo was amusing but not needed. Jimmy Olson looked odd sporting an earring...but of course Lois used it as a plot device to lure Jimmy away.

Im just wondering tho... was Lois THAT naive that after 6 months of boinking Supes she STILL didn't know that he and Clark were the same??? WTF?!

At one point Lois mentions she's an Air Force brat. Really? So after years of being an ARMY brat she's now an Air Force brat??? weee!

[Mandi-chan]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

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Oh, it's cheesy as hell. I'm not going to deny that, but I loved it when I was a kid and still do now.

Even though it's cheesy, it's still fun...and it doesn't bore me to tears like all the other Superman media I've tried to sit through. None of them did it for me, that's all.

[Jester]

Mandi,
Seen Superman 2. It's my favorite Superman movie.

Yeah, Brainac Attacks was a bit weird. Having Timm/Dini style character designs, several of the original voice actors (though strangly the titular character is not one of them) and a totally out side continuity....that and it totally sucked.

Anyone know why Korey Burton and Clancey Brown didn't do Brainiac Attacks? (My first thought is script...)

[DrSpengler]

Originally Posted by Jester

Anyone know why Korey Burton and Clancey Brown didn't do Brainiac Attacks? (My first thought is script...)

For Clancy Brown, they replaced him with Powers Booth because they wanted a Lex Luthor more like the wacky Kevin Spacey version from Superman Returns. As for the removal of Corey Burton, I can only guess they wanted Lance Henrikson for his name recognition and celebrity status.

Having Timm/Dini style character designs, several of the original voice actors (though strangly the titular character is not one of them)

Actually, Tim Daly DID return to play Superman for Brainiac Attacks after leaving the role for many years (a different actor plays Superman in Justice League). However, he was so out of touch with the character that his performance in Brainiac Attacks was nothing short of awful.

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by Raph's Girl

Spoiler:

Im just wondering tho... was Lois THAT naive that after 6 months of boinking Supes she STILL didn't know that he and Clark were the same??? WTF?!

Spoiler:

Lois knew, she clearly knew when the film began and was probing Clark about his "other real name", and she whisperd "clark" as he died. Clark was the only one who wouldnt confirm it himself until the conclusion.

[gobo]

Originally Posted by Raph's Girl

Spoiler:

Jimmy Olson looked odd sporting an earring...but of course Lois used it as a plot device to lure Jimmy away.

Spoiler:

He actually had one in each ear. I wished it was only one ear as that made me question his orientation. That's just not right...

[Raph's Girl]

Originally Posted by Jester

Anyone know why Korey Burton and Clancey Brown didn't do Brainiac Attacks? (My first thought is script...)

Don't worry.. Clancy Brown's back as Lex Luthor this season on The Batman (which premiers Saturday) so all is well with the world.

[Jester]

Originally Posted by DrSpengler

Actually, Tim Daly DID return to play Superman for Brainiac Attacks after leaving the role for many years (a different actor plays Superman in Justice League). However, he was so out of touch with the character that his performance in Brainiac Attacks was nothing short of awful.

By titular I meant Brainiac, but ok...

Originally Posted by Raph's Girl

Don't worry.. Clancy Brown's back as Lex Luthor this season on The Batman (which premiers Saturday) so all is well with the world.

I hope he plays him differently. I know it sounds weird, but Clancy is the DCU Superman...The Batman is a different continuity. I love Clancy's Lex, it'd just be weird to see him out side the Timm/Dini Universe