MIT Coed's "Art" Thought Explosive

[Mecha Cow]

I mean sure it's ok to question some one over a thing like that but to say some one is stupid for wearing something stupid if you ask me.
There's being protective than there's being over protective nothings even come about since the buildings fell.
Yeah but I plan to do something about it not just whine and complain like most people do I love my country just not how it's run I see a change coming in the next few years for many things.
EDit: you know I'd really like to see what this person was wearing my opinion may be a bit differnt then.

I don't think it's stupid at all; like I said in my previous post, it doesn't seem like a stretch to mistake a circuit board and a battery stuck to someone's chest for a potential bomb. It would be like waving a toy gun around. It might be obviously harmless at close inspection, but would you really want security guards to take that chance? To raise the red flag in such situations isn't being overly protective, it's common sense. Better safe than sorry.

[VaughnMichael]

Originally Posted by Mecha Cow

I don't think it's stupid at all; like I said in my previous post, it doesn't seem like a stretch to mistake a circuit board and a battery stuck to someone's chest for a potential bomb. It would be like waving a toy gun around. It might be obviously harmless at close inspection, but would you really want security guards to take that chance? To raise the red flag in such situations isn't being overly protective, it's common sense. Better safe than sorry.

I'm sorry but I'm not going to live in fear of circut boards and toy guns.
That's what they want people to do even the government everyone thinks I'm bashing says the same thing you're own giving in to what the "Terrorists" want.
Sure it's great to be protective but theres a fine line and I believe it's crossed allot that's all I'm saying.

[Type 97 Chi-ha]

No, but you'd better be afraid of real guns and bombs. What do you do if you don't know if a threat is real or fake? Sit and smile and hope for the best? I wouldn't want to trust my safety to people who do that. I expect these things to be checked out.

[VaughnMichael]

Originally Posted by Type 97 Chi-ha

No, but you'd better be afraid of real guns and bombs. What do you do if you don't know if a threat is real or fake? Sit and smile and hope for the best? I wouldn't want to trust my safety to people who do that. I expect these things to be checked out.

Like I said I'm fine with Safety but when it comes down to peoples freedoms being taken away from them I don't like that one bit because we're headed down a bad road.

[Type 97 Chi-ha]

Originally Posted by Putrescent

Like I said I'm fine with Safety but when it comes down to peoples freedoms being taken away from them I don't like that one bit because we're headed down a bad road.

It can be a thin line between necessary restrictions and genuinely harming freedoms, and this country has debated about it since its founding, one early example being the Sedition Act passed in 1798, the idea being to protect the new nation against anarchy, though there was plenty of controversy about it at the time.

I fail to find it an illegitimate restriction of freedom, however, to disallow people to bring what appear to be bombs or other weapons to an airport, school, etc.

[Mecha Cow]

Like I said I'm fine with Safety but when it comes down to peoples freedoms being taken away from them I don't like that one bit because we're headed down a bad road.

This has nothing to with freedom, or even fear. When someone poses a plausible threat to you, you react. Security officers will respond to the slightest hint of such a threat because it is their job, and it has been their job long before 9/11. They will not takes chances because there could potentially be human lives at stake, is this so hard for you to understand?

You do not have the 'freedom' to fake a threat to human wellbeing. You do not have do not have a 'right' to stir up fear (Which -make no mistake- is the case in the situation we are discussing and in the hypothetical one I mentioned; whether this is intentional or not is absolutely irrelevant as far as this discussion is concerned). It is the people who believe this is acceptable that are the 'terrorists'; not your government or the people that risk their lives to protect your true freedom and your actual rights.

*E* This is what it looked like.

[jeff the cheff]

Even though I'm someone who is skeptical about the threat of terrorism, and thinks that people are more scared then they should be, this is clearly a stupid move. The person obviously did this to be a smart ass. Being a smart ass can be funny, but its an airport and they have to be extra secure. If she walked around campus with this on, it wouldn't be a big deal. An airport is extra secure, though, and you shouldn't act like an idiot there.

[Drtooth]

Originally Posted by Putrescent

I'm sorry but I'm not going to live in fear of circut boards and toy guns.
That's what they want people to do even the government everyone thinks I'm bashing says the same thing you're own giving in to what the "Terrorists" want.

You know what ELSE the terrorists want? Them to check out someone who obviously doesn't want to do anything, and just gets mixed up in crap like this, while they can easily sneak through carrying stuff.

Plus, they just love to see us running around like chickens with our heads cut off when someone finds a signal device from a street light attatched to a street light. That has happened.

Dispite the fact they are too damn stupid to realise they are pawns in a game of world domination, they aren't stupid about how they can attack.

But hey, that's what we get for f*&^&%ing around in that area in the 80's, and giving weopons to these people to stop those big scary Russians.... ooooh....

[Type 97 Chi-ha]

And the Cold War is what we got for helping the Soviet Union defeat those scary Germans...

[Mecha Cow]

This has nothing to do with terrorism. For f*ck's sake, people.

[Type 97 Chi-ha]

Somebody walking into an airport with a bomb isn't necessarily a terrorist. They could just be a suicidal lunatic with no political motivations, like the man who shot up Virginia Tech.

[Krang]

Thread re-opened. Let's please get back on the original topic rather than veering into political discussion, since that causes nothing but problems. Also note that personal attacks will not be tolerated, and we are taking steps to improve on keeping them from happening in the future.

[KROW]

Originally Posted by jeff the cheff

Even though I'm someone who is skeptical about the threat of terrorism, and thinks that people are more scared then they should be, this is clearly a stupid move. The person obviously did this to be a smart ass. Being a smart ass can be funny, but its an airport and they have to be extra secure. If she walked around campus with this on, it wouldn't be a big deal. An airport is extra secure, though, and you shouldn't act like an idiot there.

I agree with Jeff, here. If she wanted to make an artistic expression this way, then she should have taken precaution. Walking through an airport while wearing a t-shirt with a circuit board and a battery attached is like strolling through Harlem wearing a KKK outfit -- dumb, hazardous, and likely to cause a major repercussion against you.

I don't know what kinds of precautionary measures she could have taken per se, but just waltzing in like that was clearly a bad idea. Perhaps organizing a demonstration with a police escort or something... I don't know. The whole concept is pretty much a failure. In an American airport, wires = bad news. Hell, they won't let you take a knife on board, and even making jokes about hijacking or bombs can get you detained. I don't know what she was trying to accomplish, but I don't think it worked.

[VaughnMichael]

After seeing the image the only reason I could even see them making a big deal about it is because of the stinking battery I think that if the person didn't have that a big deal wouldn't really have been made over it.
I didn't realize it had a Battery on it and after seeing the image it looks as i they did do it just to get a rise out of them.
I still stand by my comments of being overly protective though.