"Cyber Strike!" 8-page story

*DrSpengler* · 10-25-2007, 05:03 PM

Decided to start a new blog called TMNT Rarities. I have a pretty huge TMNT collection so I figured I'd share some of it with the rest of the fandom.

I know this site has rules about posting certain material, but hear me out. I only intend to post SHORT and RARE comic stories that have not been reprinted in well over a decade. I will NEVER post full issues from mainstream volumes, I will NEVER post currently published material and I will NEVER post a comic that has recently been reprinted (should a short comic on my site be reprinted, I will promptly remove it).

In regards to Cyber Strike!, it was originally given away as a freebie, thus I'm not really depriving Mirage or any other company of revenue.

Anyhow, it's a fun little comic based in the Old Toon universe. Some great Michael Dooney art, too.

*Roseangelo* · 10-25-2007, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DrSpengler

In regards to Cyber Strike!, it was originally given away as a freebie, thus I'm not really depriving Mirage or any other company of revenue.

Unfortunately, that doesn't make it legal.

*DrSpengler* · 10-25-2007, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Roseangelo

Unfortunately, that doesn't make it legal.

Well, it's also illegal to run a lemonade stand and not share a portion of your profits with the government, but that doesn't mean there's anything terribly wrong or destructive about it.

*Roseangelo* · 10-25-2007, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DrSpengler

Well, it's also illegal to run a lemonade stand and not share a portion of your profits with the government, but that doesn't mean there's anything terribly wrong with it.

I think that's a lame analogy, but whatever floats your boat.

There are a lot of the regular comic books that are "sold out" and unavailable except on the secondary market. Under your reasoning, it would be ok to scan and distribute these. But I don't think you would. There's no real difference, though.

Do what you want, but IMO this would fall under the banner of something that you can't promote on this site.

soccerstud652 · 10-25-2007, 06:18 PM

I disagree. We are all fans here and no one is looking to gain profit off of this. Lets enjoy the short "promo" comics. Thanks drspengler, keep the good work up.

*DrSpengler* · 10-25-2007, 06:25 PM

If I was posting full Vol. 1 issues like Return to New York 1-3 etc then I would totally agree that what I was doing was wrong and detrimental to the TMNT franchise and community.

However, I have no plans to post anything like that. Only the very rare stuff that hasn't seen the light of day in decades and in all likelihood never will. I highly doubt Cyber Strike! or any of those Jim Lee's TMNT pack-in comics will ever be collected for profit by anyone. If by some miracle of fate they ARE, then I will immediately take them down.

I'd say that posting "Cyber Strike!" online for fans to read is more helpful to the community than selling it on eBay for a profit. At least this way fans all across the community can enjoy this little oddity.

*Scandia* · 10-25-2007, 06:31 PM

Since it was given away for free, I think that it would be more legal and okay to post it than to post something that sold for a certain amount of money once and now is fetching much more.

*Roseangelo* · 10-25-2007, 06:33 PM

You can rationalize it all you want, but it's still illegal and against the TOS of this site.

soccerstud652 · 10-25-2007, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Roseangelo

You can rationalize it all you want, but it's still illegal and against the TOS of this site.

Just because you collect rare comics, doesn't mean the rest of us do. Some of us do not have the monetary means to spend hundreds of dollars on a comic. Why make a big deal out of such a small issue...especially because the op is trying to do nothing but help the community?

*Roseangelo* · 10-25-2007, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by soccerstud652

Just because you collect rare comics, doesn't mean the rest of us do. Some of us do not have the monetary means to spend hundreds of dollars on a comic. Why make a big deal out of such a small issue...especially because the op is trying to do nothing but help the community?

I'm all for sharing, and even have my own sharing project in the works. I just don't believe that blatantly advertising your piracy is a very smart way to do so. You need to be smart and under the table about it. You know, like the whirlwind of PMs that got sent out the moment DVD rips of The Lost Season were available online.

Providing scans openly like this is not beneficial in the long run. You leave the door open for someone who is not a member of this site finding the scans, saving them, and then selling them on eBay or who knows what else.

I'll I'm saying is be smart with your efforts.

*DrSpengler* · 10-25-2007, 07:03 PM

Well, I just wanted to get these comics out into the community and this seemed like the best way to get it done. I certainly had no malice intended, anyway.

Anyhow, perhaps we should drop the "right or wrong" arguement since that's really not where I wanted this to go and I don't think anybody is going to be changing their mind on the subject no matter how much we discuss it.

So...how 'bout dat Michael Dooney art? Eh? Eh?

*Scandia* · 10-25-2007, 07:41 PM

Question:

What universe does this comic take place in?

They mention Krang, but the style does not seem to be related to the OT or Archie otherwise.

*VaughnMichael* · 10-25-2007, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Scandia

Question:

What universe does this comic take place in?

They mention Krang, but the style does not seem to be related to the OT or Archie otherwise.

its for the red sky series of the toon.

*DrSpengler* · 10-25-2007, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Scandia

Question:

What universe does this comic take place in?

They mention Krang, but the style does not seem to be related to the OT or Archie otherwise.

My guess would be Old Toon, even if the style is a little darker.

It can't be Archie, since that series had a completely different origin for the Cyber Armoe.

So far as I recall, the Cyber Armor never appeared in the Old Toon itself, so there's no contradictions from that continuity.

Edit: Orrrrrr what Putrescent said.

*Roseangelo* · 10-25-2007, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DrSpengler

So far as I recall, the Cyber Armor never appeared in the Old Toon itself, so there's no contradictions from that continuity.

It did, in the episode "Cyber Turtles."

The comic is promoting CBS's Action Zone, which the Red Sky series was part of. So yeah, what Putrescent said.

*gobo* · 10-25-2007, 11:19 PM

Lovely! ^_^ I don't suppose the tiny little micro-book series from the cereal will be next, huh?

All I remember is that it had the Archie-style Wingnut, a giant Mouser and it emphasized Mike saying "great oogley-moogley". Wasn't part of my collection, but I always wanted to read the continuation of it.

*Scandia* · 10-26-2007, 04:38 AM

I did suspect Red Sky given the designs and the mention of Krang, but was not completely sure.

Murphy · 10-26-2007, 07:01 AM

Just a friendly warning to Dr S that what you're doing is illegal and should the Mirage lawyers ever find out they'll shut you down.

PAAATE · 10-26-2007, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Murphy

Just a friendly warning to Dr S that what you're doing is illegal and should the Mirage lawyers ever find out they'll shut you down.

On the other hand some laws are stupid and should be ignored. ;P

I highly doubt anyone is going to get hurt in any way by him posting this comic.

Thanks, doc... Just the cure I needed for my boredom.

*gobo* · 10-26-2007, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Murphy

Just a friendly warning to Dr S that what you're doing is illegal and should the Mirage lawyers ever find out they'll shut you down.

I'm not too clear on how sharing a promo is illegal, but... better safe than sorry.

10-25-2007, 05:03 PM	#1
DrSpengler Foot Elite Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 4,842	"Cyber Strike!" 8-page story Decided to start a new blog called TMNT Rarities. I have a pretty huge TMNT collection so I figured I'd share some of it with the rest of the fandom. I know this site has rules about posting certain material, but hear me out. I only intend to post SHORT and RARE comic stories that have not been reprinted in well over a decade. I will NEVER post full issues from mainstream volumes, I will NEVER post currently published material and I will NEVER post a comic that has recently been reprinted (should a short comic on my site be reprinted, I will promptly remove it). In regards to Cyber Strike!, it was originally given away as a freebie, thus I'm not really depriving Mirage or any other company of revenue. Anyhow, it's a fun little comic based in the Old Toon universe. Some great Michael Dooney art, too. Last edited by Krang; 10-26-2007 at 02:46 PM. Reason: Links removed

10-25-2007, 06:18 PM	#5
soccerstud652 Hench Mutant Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 493	I disagree. We are all fans here and no one is looking to gain profit off of this. Lets enjoy the short "promo" comics. Thanks drspengler, keep the good work up. Last edited by soccerstud652; 10-25-2007 at 06:24 PM.

10-25-2007, 06:31 PM	#7
Scandia Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 2,265	Since it was given away for free, I think that it would be more legal and okay to post it than to post something that sold for a certain amount of money once and now is fetching much more. __________________ Turtles fight with honor!!!

10-25-2007, 06:33 PM	#8
Roseangelo Emperor Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: California Posts: 9,116	You can rationalize it all you want, but it's still illegal and against the TOS of this site. __________________ www.ninjapizza.net www.colorsbyrosemary.com

10-25-2007, 07:41 PM	#12
Scandia Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 2,265	Question: What universe does this comic take place in? They mention Krang, but the style does not seem to be related to the OT or Archie otherwise. __________________ Turtles fight with honor!!!

10-25-2007, 06:25 PM	#6
DrSpengler Foot Elite Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 4,842	If I was posting full Vol. 1 issues like Return to New York 1-3 etc then I would totally agree that what I was doing was wrong and detrimental to the TMNT franchise and community. However, I have no plans to post anything like that. Only the very rare stuff that hasn't seen the light of day in decades and in all likelihood never will. I highly doubt Cyber Strike! or any of those Jim Lee's TMNT pack-in comics will ever be collected for profit by anyone. If by some miracle of fate they ARE, then I will immediately take them down. I'd say that posting "Cyber Strike!" online for fans to read is more helpful to the community than selling it on eBay for a profit. At least this way fans all across the community can enjoy this little oddity.

10-25-2007, 07:03 PM	#11
DrSpengler Foot Elite Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 4,842	Well, I just wanted to get these comics out into the community and this seemed like the best way to get it done. I certainly had no malice intended, anyway. Anyhow, perhaps we should drop the "right or wrong" arguement since that's really not where I wanted this to go and I don't think anybody is going to be changing their mind on the subject no matter how much we discuss it. So...how 'bout dat Michael Dooney art? Eh? Eh?

10-25-2007, 11:19 PM	#16
gobo Wacky Action Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: on Earth Posts: 12,784	Lovely! ^_^ I don't suppose the tiny little micro-book series from the cereal will be next, huh? All I remember is that it had the Archie-style Wingnut, a giant Mouser and it emphasized Mike saying "great oogley-moogley". Wasn't part of my collection, but I always wanted to read the continuation of it. __________________ Live and let live... or go to hell.

10-26-2007, 04:38 AM	#17
Scandia Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 2,265	I did suspect Red Sky given the designs and the mention of Krang, but was not completely sure. __________________ Turtles fight with honor!!!

10-26-2007, 07:01 AM	#18
Murphy Official TMNT Staff/Cast Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Massachusetts US Posts: 78	This is illegal Just a friendly warning to Dr S that what you're doing is illegal and should the Mirage lawyers ever find out they'll shut you down.