SSBB Thread: IT'S OUT!!!!!!!!!! - Page 27

*Deathknight* · 11-05-2007, 12:47 AM

I've heard that Wave dashing is officially gone from Brawl. Apparently, you can no longer control your air dodge thus making wave dashing impossible. I had a feeling they'd do something like this. Though I don't have proof to confirm this, it's just what I've heard from people who played the beta.

*Cure* · 11-05-2007, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Deathknight

I've heard that Wave dashing is officially gone from Brawl. Apparently, you can no longer control your air dodge thus making wave dashing impossible. I had a feeling they'd do something like this. Though I don't have proof to confirm this, it's just what I've heard from people who played the beta.

Yeah, I've heard that, too. Glad they fixed it.

**ThirdMarioBro** · 11-05-2007, 01:16 AM

Good. I tire of "hardcore tactics" in a Melee brawler.

*Deathknight* · 11-07-2007, 12:36 AM

Well, if you watch Pros, they don't wavedash a lot. It's not really all that useful, it's only good for mindgames. Tournament play is mostly about knowing your combos and proper timing. Not really going to miss wavedashing but losing it came at a price. I loved being able to control my airdodge, it was very handy being able to dodge up for extra height or just to confuse someone when trying to get back on the stage. I think it would've been smarter if they had made it so you didn't instantly recover if you hit the ground from an airdodge thus getting rid of wavedashing but keeping the element of controlling your airdodge.

*Mecha Cow* · 11-07-2007, 09:01 AM

Mini-Megaton? Gray Fox is an assist. I guess that pretty much confirms Tails will be one as well.

Peanut · 11-07-2007, 12:29 PM

It certainly opens up the floodgates. Tails AT confirmed.

I find a lot of his wording in this update a little strange. The fact that he openly admits at wishing he were a playable character is pretty odd. Probably just Sakurai being honest in his comments again, though.

*Cure* · 11-07-2007, 01:18 PM

Yeah, it's like "Uh...aren't you the one...making the game? You could of made him playable if you wanted!" He's just a big tease is what he is.

*Cure* · 11-08-2007, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Sakurai

There’s a character named Ness who has appeared in the Smash Bros. series up until now, and Lucas is very similar. They are from the same family of PK users.

I guess Ness is really out.

Peanut · 11-08-2007, 07:37 AM

Lucas even has two of the exact same moves. Ness is finished.

*Deathknight* · 11-08-2007, 09:54 PM

Aggrivates me so much, I loved Ness. He was such a fun character to play.

*Cure* · 11-08-2007, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Deathknight

Aggrivates me so much, I loved Ness. He was such a fun character to play.

...but...Lucas is practically the same character. That's the point.

*Dr. Doom* · 11-09-2007, 01:15 AM

Subtle differences mean a lot to Smash players, I guess you could say.

*Mecha Cow* · 11-09-2007, 08:54 AM

Wow, a stage that we already knew about. Pretty boring week.

*Dr. Doom* · 11-09-2007, 09:33 AM

I think Gray Fox has been the most exciting thing we've seen.

Peanut · 11-09-2007, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Doom

I think Grey Fox has been the most exciting thing we've seen,

This week? Easily.

Pretty average week, but we did get some really exciting ones for awhile there, so we can't complain too much.

*Deathknight* · 11-10-2007, 06:01 PM

They have the same B moves but I like the distance on the psy moves, that's what made Ness so good. Lucas doesn't have those moves.

*Mecha Cow* · 11-10-2007, 07:31 PM

Ness was good? Not in Melee he wasn't.

*Dr. Doom* · 11-11-2007, 12:30 AM

Well that's incredibly subjective.

*Mecha Cow* · 11-11-2007, 09:19 AM

I thought the common consensus was that Ness got nerfed to hell in Melee.

*Dr. Doom* · 11-11-2007, 10:55 AM

I guess I dunno, I never really used him that much in Melee.

11-05-2007, 12:47 AM	#521
Deathknight Mad Scientist Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: One of the 972 rooms of the technodrome Posts: 1,995	I've heard that Wave dashing is officially gone from Brawl. Apparently, you can no longer control your air dodge thus making wave dashing impossible. I had a feeling they'd do something like this. Though I don't have proof to confirm this, it's just what I've heard from people who played the beta. __________________ Shredder: "Ninja hall of fame? Ha! Where's MY statue?!" -My Brother, the Bad Guy

11-05-2007, 01:16 AM	#523
ThirdMarioBro Tea Time! Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,905	Good. I tire of "hardcore tactics" in a Melee brawler. __________________

11-07-2007, 12:36 AM	#524
Deathknight Mad Scientist Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: One of the 972 rooms of the technodrome Posts: 1,995	Well, if you watch Pros, they don't wavedash a lot. It's not really all that useful, it's only good for mindgames. Tournament play is mostly about knowing your combos and proper timing. Not really going to miss wavedashing but losing it came at a price. I loved being able to control my airdodge, it was very handy being able to dodge up for extra height or just to confuse someone when trying to get back on the stage. I think it would've been smarter if they had made it so you didn't instantly recover if you hit the ground from an airdodge thus getting rid of wavedashing but keeping the element of controlling your airdodge. __________________ Shredder: "Ninja hall of fame? Ha! Where's MY statue?!" -My Brother, the Bad Guy

11-07-2007, 09:01 AM	#525
Mecha Cow Gorgeous and modest too Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 3,699	Mini-Megaton? Gray Fox is an assist. I guess that pretty much confirms Tails will be one as well. __________________

11-07-2007, 12:29 PM	#526
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	It certainly opens up the floodgates. Tails AT confirmed. I find a lot of his wording in this update a little strange. The fact that he openly admits at wishing he were a playable character is pretty odd. Probably just Sakurai being honest in his comments again, though. Last edited by Peanut; 11-07-2007 at 12:42 PM.

11-07-2007, 01:18 PM	#527
Cure Y'all need Jesus Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 8,938	Yeah, it's like "Uh...aren't you the one...making the game? You could of made him playable if you wanted!" He's just a big tease is what he is. __________________

11-08-2007, 07:37 AM	#529
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	Lucas even has two of the exact same moves. Ness is finished.

11-08-2007, 09:54 PM	#530
Deathknight Mad Scientist Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: One of the 972 rooms of the technodrome Posts: 1,995	Aggrivates me so much, I loved Ness. He was such a fun character to play. __________________ Shredder: "Ninja hall of fame? Ha! Where's MY statue?!" -My Brother, the Bad Guy

11-09-2007, 01:15 AM	#532
Dr. Doom Allons-y! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Castle Doom Posts: 4,535	Subtle differences mean a lot to Smash players, I guess you could say. __________________ I love you, Pickle.

11-09-2007, 08:54 AM	#533
Mecha Cow Gorgeous and modest too Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 3,699	Wow, a stage that we already knew about. Pretty boring week. __________________

11-09-2007, 09:33 AM	#534
Dr. Doom Allons-y! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Castle Doom Posts: 4,535	I think Gray Fox has been the most exciting thing we've seen. __________________ I love you, Pickle. Last edited by Dr. Doom; 11-09-2007 at 02:52 PM.

11-10-2007, 06:01 PM	#536
Deathknight Mad Scientist Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: One of the 972 rooms of the technodrome Posts: 1,995	They have the same B moves but I like the distance on the psy moves, that's what made Ness so good. Lucas doesn't have those moves. __________________ Shredder: "Ninja hall of fame? Ha! Where's MY statue?!" -My Brother, the Bad Guy

11-10-2007, 07:31 PM	#537
Mecha Cow Gorgeous and modest too Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 3,699	Ness was good? Not in Melee he wasn't. __________________

11-11-2007, 12:30 AM	#538
Dr. Doom Allons-y! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Castle Doom Posts: 4,535	Well that's incredibly subjective. __________________ I love you, Pickle.

11-11-2007, 09:19 AM	#539
Mecha Cow Gorgeous and modest too Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 3,699	I thought the common consensus was that Ness got nerfed to hell in Melee. __________________

11-11-2007, 10:55 AM	#540
Dr. Doom Allons-y! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Castle Doom Posts: 4,535	I guess I dunno, I never really used him that much in Melee. __________________ I love you, Pickle.