Classic Sesame Street Not For Children?

*ZariusTwo* · 11-21-2007, 01:38 PM

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/18/ma...in&oref=slogin

Now where did they get such an absurd idea?

~~AquaParade~~ · 11-21-2007, 01:54 PM

i think im a little confused.

Ra · 11-21-2007, 03:59 PM

...I like this version of Sesame Street...it sounds very bleak and depressing...

*Roseangelo* · 11-21-2007, 04:04 PM

Old school Sesame Street served me just fine as a kid and I wouldn't hesitate to show it to a kid today.

Jon · 11-21-2007, 04:47 PM

Yeah, Ol' Sesame Street was good.

Heck, the 'worst' thing for me that I know of from it my mother informed me of (as it was while I was real young, so don't recall it myself). But back then apparently I would get scared of Barkley the Dog.

Otherwise, I had enjoyed the series.

*VaughnMichael* · 11-21-2007, 05:08 PM

people are just to politically correct, safe, and scared these days.
Jim Henson made Sesame street what it was, when he went the souls of muppets everywhere went with him.
& btw that Image isn't of Cookie Monster, that was way before he was created. That image is from a apple computers ad campain, it was also seen on the Ed Sullivan show.
He was also used in ads for munchos, that would later become Cookie Monster.
There's a slight differnce between the characters but there is you can see the evolution of cookie.
COMPUTER AD.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=gdAKgJDahzw
MUNCHOS AD.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=oEKOgOE-0b4
COOKIE MONSTER & COUSIN MONSTER.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=rWRXggFEuJM

*ZariusTwo* · 11-21-2007, 06:17 PM

A desperatte Cookie Monster comparing cookies to Novacaine offering Martha Stewart a date with Bert, "Mr. Excitement" in exchange for releasing him

http://youtube.com/watch?v=gT_gxpyavag&feature=related

*VaughnMichael* · 11-21-2007, 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

A desperatte Cookie Monster comparing cookies to Novacaine offering Martha Stewart a date with Bert, "Mr. Excitement" in exchange for releasing him

http://youtube.com/watch?v=gT_gxpyavag&feature=related

By far one of the best moments ever in the history of the character.
The reason he was acting his old self again is because Frank Oz was the man behind the muppet on this show.

He rarely performs his own characters anymore.

*ZariusTwo* · 11-21-2007, 06:48 PM

The best Sesame Street moments now are all from Oz performing on talk shows.

*VaughnMichael* · 11-21-2007, 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

The best Sesame Street moments now are all from Oz performing on talk shows.

well, some happen on sesame street when he pops by from time to time but you're right.
I wish I could say the same about the muppets.
Disney isn't doing very well with them but from what I'm told they're working on a new muppet show.

*odupianist* · 11-21-2007, 07:31 PM

Didn't they already try a new Muppet Show? The Muppets unfortunately died when Henson died. Oz does a great job though when he does them. It was all down hill when Disney bought them. So bad that even Stewie on FG had to mention something about it. I saw something on Fox News about the Sesame Street thing thought. It's just absurd. When Jim Henson returns from the grave, I know who is going first, the folks at Disney and Sesame Street lol. I'm buying the old school Sesame Street on DVD (there are two volumes out now) just so my kids can watch that and not the new ****.

*VaughnMichael* · 11-21-2007, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by odupianist

Didn't they already try a new Muppet Show? The Muppets unfortunately died when Henson died. Oz does a great job though when he does them. It was all down hill when Disney bought them. So bad that even Stewie on FG had to mention something about it. I saw something on Fox News about the Sesame Street thing thought. It's just absurd. When Jim Henson returns from the grave, I know who is going first, the folks at Disney and Sesame Street lol. I'm buying the old school Sesame Street on DVD (there are two volumes out now) just so my kids can watch that and not the new ****.

I own them as well a bit expensive for 2 dvds though if you ask me.
But btw before Jim died he was selling the Muppets to Disney anyway.
Or well Michael Eisner which is the only good thing that guy ever did at Disney but it was a stupid move on his part to buy them because he seemed to be the only one who cared about them because Disney has no idea what the hell to do with them.
And now he's gone so it's even worse, they just plop Kermit on random tv shows.
They has a vast catalog of shows and tv movies that have yet to ever see dvd release and fans and casual fans a like would gobble them up.
And yeah Jim Hensons son Brian did a Muppets Tonight show which didn't do very well I don't think it's fridaynight time slot helped much..considering most people go out on the weekend.
The first season of the show wasn't very good sadly before it got cancled much like how Fast Forward was finally picking up the show started to get better.
I think the big issue with Muppets Tonight was that allot if not most of the major cast from the Muppet Show wasn't around nor did they include any characters from Jim's last project the Jim Henson Hour.
And yeah sadly I agree with stewie even if saying that about Jim sort of rubbed me the wrong way.
If Disney wants to do things correctly they first need to find people who can do the voices and make the characters act as they did before.
That's why we no longer see characters like Rowlf the dog.

**Machias Banshee** · 11-21-2007, 09:04 PM

Oh jeez... I'm sorry, but what the heck is wrong with people?

Ok, after reading the entire article, It has now become official that the US as a whole is Way to friggen politically correct. When it comes to labeling Sesame Street.... Thats going Way too far over the line...

Fledermaus · 11-21-2007, 10:03 PM

I think it came across as more of a dig at today's notions of proper children's entertainment.

Sesame Street, the article also fails to mention, was meant to be watched by the parent and the child -- that's why there were so many things that adults can still enjoy.

**Machias Banshee** · 11-21-2007, 10:09 PM

Oh, I understand the dig. Its just the people that take it SERIOUSLY that irk me...

Sesame street back then was great. It was my Kindergarten, when we couldn't afford school. And I was more than ready to take on the other kids when I entered first grade.

This is like the mass bannings of the old Looney tunes...

It used to be that you could watch something for sole, shameless entertainment. Now, everything's gotta have some sort of lesson or something. Captain Planet, anyone? It just seems like now you can't watch or listen to anything without some sort of PSA being shoved down your throat...

*ZariusTwo* · 11-21-2007, 11:00 PM

Captain Planet was a liberal show with an agenda though, it wasnt just sending people messages, it was telling them who to vote.

*ZariusTwo* · 11-22-2007, 07:22 PM

Don Music, the original innovator of self-inflicted violence in the name of composing

*VaughnMichael* · 11-22-2007, 07:42 PM

heh good old Don he didn't last long because kids started running around banging their heads off things.
It's not his fault some kids mimic everything they see on tv haha

Time Mistress · 11-22-2007, 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Machias Banshee

Oh jeez... I'm sorry, but what the heck is wrong with people?

Ok, after reading the entire article, It has now become official that the US as a whole is Way to friggen politically correct. When it comes to labeling Sesame Street.... Thats going Way too far over the line...

I couldn't agree more. It's sad when the genius and satire of a visionary like Jim Henson can't be enjoyed by today's children for fear of the PC police. As Oscar himself might say, "the whole thing stinks!"

*odupianist* · 11-22-2007, 10:40 PM

Putre, I heard we don't see Rowlf because he was retired once Henson died.

11-21-2007, 01:38 PM	#1
ZariusTwo Overlord Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Britain, DINO THUNDER...POWER UP! Posts: 22,497	Classic Sesame Street Not For Children? http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/18/ma...in&oref=slogin Now where did they get such an absurd idea? __________________ Spider-Man: The Rescue Spider-Man: The Galloping Cat Spider-Man: Scarlet Mirror Doctor Who: Child of the Daleks

11-21-2007, 03:59 PM	#3
Ra It's my desire? Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: In your pants. Posts: 4,441	...I like this version of Sesame Street...it sounds very bleak and depressing... __________________ "So. The whole lot of you against little old me? How retarded."

11-21-2007, 04:04 PM	#4
Roseangelo Emperor Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: California Posts: 9,120	Old school Sesame Street served me just fine as a kid and I wouldn't hesitate to show it to a kid today. __________________ www.ninjapizza.net www.colorsbyrosemary.com

11-21-2007, 06:17 PM	#7
ZariusTwo Overlord Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Britain, DINO THUNDER...POWER UP! Posts: 22,497	A desperatte Cookie Monster comparing cookies to Novacaine offering Martha Stewart a date with Bert, "Mr. Excitement" in exchange for releasing him http://youtube.com/watch?v=gT_gxpyavag&feature=related __________________ Spider-Man: The Rescue Spider-Man: The Galloping Cat Spider-Man: Scarlet Mirror Doctor Who: Child of the Daleks

11-21-2007, 06:48 PM	#9
ZariusTwo Overlord Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Britain, DINO THUNDER...POWER UP! Posts: 22,497	The best Sesame Street moments now are all from Oz performing on talk shows. __________________ Spider-Man: The Rescue Spider-Man: The Galloping Cat Spider-Man: Scarlet Mirror Doctor Who: Child of the Daleks

11-21-2007, 01:54 PM	#2
~~AquaParade~~ Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 8,450	i think im a little confused.

11-21-2007, 04:47 PM	#5
Jon Mad Scientist Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,356	Yeah, Ol' Sesame Street was good. Heck, the 'worst' thing for me that I know of from it my mother informed me of (as it was while I was real young, so don't recall it myself). But back then apparently I would get scared of Barkley the Dog. Otherwise, I had enjoyed the series.

11-21-2007, 05:08 PM	#6
VaughnMichael I'm Baaaaaaccck! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 11,833	people are just to politically correct, safe, and scared these days. Jim Henson made Sesame street what it was, when he went the souls of muppets everywhere went with him. & btw that Image isn't of Cookie Monster, that was way before he was created. That image is from a apple computers ad campain, it was also seen on the Ed Sullivan show. He was also used in ads for munchos, that would later become Cookie Monster. There's a slight differnce between the characters but there is you can see the evolution of cookie. COMPUTER AD. http://youtube.com/watch?v=gdAKgJDahzw MUNCHOS AD. http://youtube.com/watch?v=oEKOgOE-0b4 COOKIE MONSTER & COUSIN MONSTER. http://youtube.com/watch?v=rWRXggFEuJM

11-21-2007, 07:31 PM	#11
odupianist Mad Scientist Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,744	Didn't they already try a new Muppet Show? The Muppets unfortunately died when Henson died. Oz does a great job though when he does them. It was all down hill when Disney bought them. So bad that even Stewie on FG had to mention something about it. I saw something on Fox News about the Sesame Street thing thought. It's just absurd. When Jim Henson returns from the grave, I know who is going first, the folks at Disney and Sesame Street lol. I'm buying the old school Sesame Street on DVD (there are two volumes out now) just so my kids can watch that and not the new ****.

11-21-2007, 09:04 PM	#13
Machias Banshee Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 17,163	Oh jeez... I'm sorry, but what the heck is wrong with people? Ok, after reading the entire article, It has now become official that the US as a whole is Way to friggen politically correct. When it comes to labeling Sesame Street.... Thats going Way too far over the line...

11-21-2007, 10:03 PM	#14
Fledermaus Mad Scientist Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: SoCal Posts: 1,115	I think it came across as more of a dig at today's notions of proper children's entertainment. Sesame Street, the article also fails to mention, was meant to be watched by the parent and the child -- that's why there were so many things that adults can still enjoy. __________________ We're calling it a freeway. Eight lanes of shimmering cement running from here to Pasadena. Smooth, safe, fast. Traffic jams will be a thing of the past. I see a place where people get on and off the freeway. On and off, off and on all day, all night! Soon there will be a string of gas stations, inexpensive motels, restaurants that serve rapidly prepared food! Tire salons, automobile dealerships and wonderful, wonderful billboards reaching as far as the eye can see! My God... It'll be beautiful.

11-21-2007, 10:09 PM	#15
Machias Banshee Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 17,163	Oh, I understand the dig. Its just the people that take it SERIOUSLY that irk me... Sesame street back then was great. It was my Kindergarten, when we couldn't afford school. And I was more than ready to take on the other kids when I entered first grade. This is like the mass bannings of the old Looney tunes... It used to be that you could watch something for sole, shameless entertainment. Now, everything's gotta have some sort of lesson or something. Captain Planet, anyone? It just seems like now you can't watch or listen to anything without some sort of PSA being shoved down your throat...

11-21-2007, 11:00 PM	#16
ZariusTwo Overlord Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Britain, DINO THUNDER...POWER UP! Posts: 22,497	Captain Planet was a liberal show with an agenda though, it wasnt just sending people messages, it was telling them who to vote. __________________ Spider-Man: The Rescue Spider-Man: The Galloping Cat Spider-Man: Scarlet Mirror Doctor Who: Child of the Daleks

11-22-2007, 07:22 PM	#17
ZariusTwo Overlord Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Britain, DINO THUNDER...POWER UP! Posts: 22,497	Don Music, the original innovator of self-inflicted violence in the name of composing __________________ Spider-Man: The Rescue Spider-Man: The Galloping Cat Spider-Man: Scarlet Mirror Doctor Who: Child of the Daleks

11-22-2007, 07:42 PM	#18
VaughnMichael I'm Baaaaaaccck! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 11,833	heh good old Don he didn't last long because kids started running around banging their heads off things. It's not his fault some kids mimic everything they see on tv haha

11-22-2007, 10:40 PM	#20
odupianist Mad Scientist Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,744	Putre, I heard we don't see Rowlf because he was retired once Henson died.