Classic Sesame Street Not For Children? - Page 2

*VaughnMichael* · 11-22-2007, 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by odupianist

Putre, I heard we don't see Rowlf because he was retired once Henson died.

We've seen him a few times just not very much though.
He was in the making of the Weezer video the Muppets where in.
He's also been on Statler & Waldorfs at the balcony on movies.com
So I'd not say he's retired just like many of the other Muppets when the person behind their voice passes on it's hard for them to find some one new to replace them.
Rowlf was great though his humor was so subtle or accidental.
I can actually do allot of Jim's characters pretty well oddly enough.
I wish Disney would hold auditions for new Muppiteers, if they are really serious about this, it should be one of the first steps they take to make sure things are as they should be.
Muppet fans are a wacky lot we notice everything and care allot.

**Jester** · 11-22-2007, 10:59 PM

MUPPET OFF!!!

But seriously I do a mean Kermit. not sure how good my Rowlf, Dr. Teeth, and is it Statler or Waldorf...oh well...I can do Ernie.

*VaughnMichael* · 11-22-2007, 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jester

MUPPET OFF!!!

But seriously I do a mean Kermit. not sure how good my Rowlf, Dr. Teeth, and is it Statler or Waldorf...oh well...I can do Ernie.

Awsome I'm only sub par with Kermit an x of mine was so good it creeped me out.
I'm better at Ernie, muppet newsman, Rowlf & Dr. Teeth (who is my all time fave muppet).
I'm pretty good at Janice, pepe, beaker, and the sweadish chef also.
Not to mention Richard Hunts Monsters like Sweetums.
That brings up another thing for me I don't know about the rest of you.
But the Muppets to me where always more than just the core cast of piggy, kermit, and fozzie.
It was countless monsters, aliens, and whatnots something that's really missing from their cast of characters today.

**Jester** · 11-22-2007, 11:16 PM

Sesame Street was always pretty monster loaded. But the core Muppets for me, outdside SS, were Kermit, Fozzie, Piggy and Gonzo. The rest are B and C Muppets.

On the VA side note I would love to do that for a living. You hear that producers!

*Drtooth* · 11-23-2007, 01:10 PM

Listen. I'll say what I said on Muppet Central. It's not just the PC police, but competition from Crack Jr.'s Prozac kid's line up. Dora, Blue, Diego, Backtardigans? That stuff is one great way to get your kids to grow up with a million different ADD issues.

Has anyone ever had the misfortune of seeing these on comercials or in Target or something? they talk extremely slow and loud to children. They wiffed their way past Down talking. They're treating kids like utter morons, and they're guising it all as "interactive" These shows are outright garbage, and have the same edducational value as a test pattern.

Jon · 11-23-2007, 01:25 PM

^ I dunno. I've seen some of those shows (as have a nephew and 2 nieces who have watched each of them). They seemed to be pretty good shows for kids.

*Drtooth* · 11-23-2007, 01:40 PM

You have fallen for the hype, man. They are terrible, commercial endevors. Sesame Workshop is a non-profit company. They make scads of merchandising, sure, but they use their share of the profits to fun other projects of theres (which is more important than ever, since PBS gets so little funding now).

I do not see anyone from Viacom sending representitives to the most dangerous parts of the world to try to use the show as a means to spread peace. All I see is Viacom putting out as much Diego stuff as possible so they can make profit from the new Diego Green Bean Casserole dish.

These shows are poorly done, and they do not deserve to be slaughtering SS in the ratings. In fact, one of the reasons SS sucks right now? They actually had to borrow stuff from those shows to stay alive. They even had a segment that was a blatant ripoff of Blues Clues and Dora. But at least they talked at a normal pace with them.

Children's TV sucks on a whole right now. Everyone's either trying to rip off Nick Jr, or Disney's tweencoms.

Jon · 11-23-2007, 01:47 PM

As stated, I have watched some with young relatives. I have not "fallen for the hype", I have just watched with said relatives; and the shows don't seem to be as bad as you're making them out to be.

*Drtooth* · 11-23-2007, 03:10 PM

Listen. We grew up watching things like Mr. Rogers, Square One Mathmatics, great 1980's Sesame street and all that. These shows are candy. They have no nutricional value. Asking a kid which shape is a square, and then giving them the answer 3 hours later is not beneficial.

Let's not forget that Pediatricians have stated that TV is NOT beneficial to kids under the age of 3. The very same programs that these cater to.

Sesame Street originally aired in the mid mornings. Know why? there was no competition from other kids shows. Now they have nothing but cable competition.

Ra · 11-23-2007, 07:41 PM

I have a niece that is about 3 or 4. She loves Dora the Explorer, so she got me to sit down one night about six months ago with her sister to watch it with her. Personally, I think my IQ dropped a little by watching it. I mean, really...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dora

"DO. YOU. WANT. TO. PLAY. TODAY?"

...

...

"GREAT! =D"

No...just...no. Give us back Face. Even though he annoyed me as a kid, at least they had some decent shows on back then. Sesame Street from when it first started being run would be fine to show to kids, me thinks. It's just like today, only the jokes for adults were actually funny.

*Drtooth* · 11-24-2007, 09:27 AM

But in case people want to know the truth, Sesame Workshop only put this disclaimer on the DVD as a way to say, "Hey parents, if you have a 1 year old that loves Elmo, don't buy it."

Go to Amazon.com and read reviews posted (clearly) by parents that buy anything with the Sesame Street lable on it to shut their kids up for an hour. They all talk about how the kid has no interrest in sitting down and watching TV for an hour. And it has nothing to do with the content. It has everything to do with this. When kids are that young, they do not WANT to watch TV. They want to explore the world around them. And of course they're not going to want to listen to Sesame Road. What one or two year old can get the reference to the Beatles?

11-22-2007, 10:59 PM	#22
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,301	MUPPET OFF!!! But seriously I do a mean Kermit. not sure how good my Rowlf, Dr. Teeth, and is it Statler or Waldorf...oh well...I can do Ernie. __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

11-22-2007, 11:16 PM	#24
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,301	Sesame Street was always pretty monster loaded. But the core Muppets for me, outdside SS, were Kermit, Fozzie, Piggy and Gonzo. The rest are B and C Muppets. On the VA side note I would love to do that for a living. You hear that producers! __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

11-23-2007, 01:10 PM	#25
Drtooth Foot Elite Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 4,439	Listen. I'll say what I said on Muppet Central. It's not just the PC police, but competition from Crack Jr.'s Prozac kid's line up. Dora, Blue, Diego, Backtardigans? That stuff is one great way to get your kids to grow up with a million different ADD issues. Has anyone ever had the misfortune of seeing these on comercials or in Target or something? they talk extremely slow and loud to children. They wiffed their way past Down talking. They're treating kids like utter morons, and they're guising it all as "interactive" These shows are outright garbage, and have the same edducational value as a test pattern. __________________ [Insert mildly amusing banner here]

11-23-2007, 01:40 PM	#27
Drtooth Foot Elite Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 4,439	You have fallen for the hype, man. They are terrible, commercial endevors. Sesame Workshop is a non-profit company. They make scads of merchandising, sure, but they use their share of the profits to fun other projects of theres (which is more important than ever, since PBS gets so little funding now). I do not see anyone from Viacom sending representitives to the most dangerous parts of the world to try to use the show as a means to spread peace. All I see is Viacom putting out as much Diego stuff as possible so they can make profit from the new Diego Green Bean Casserole dish. These shows are poorly done, and they do not deserve to be slaughtering SS in the ratings. In fact, one of the reasons SS sucks right now? They actually had to borrow stuff from those shows to stay alive. They even had a segment that was a blatant ripoff of Blues Clues and Dora. But at least they talked at a normal pace with them. Children's TV sucks on a whole right now. Everyone's either trying to rip off Nick Jr, or Disney's tweencoms. __________________ [Insert mildly amusing banner here]

11-23-2007, 03:10 PM	#29
Drtooth Foot Elite Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 4,439	Listen. We grew up watching things like Mr. Rogers, Square One Mathmatics, great 1980's Sesame street and all that. These shows are candy. They have no nutricional value. Asking a kid which shape is a square, and then giving them the answer 3 hours later is not beneficial. Let's not forget that Pediatricians have stated that TV is NOT beneficial to kids under the age of 3. The very same programs that these cater to. Sesame Street originally aired in the mid mornings. Know why? there was no competition from other kids shows. Now they have nothing but cable competition. __________________ [Insert mildly amusing banner here]

11-23-2007, 01:25 PM	#26
Jon Mad Scientist Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,356	^ I dunno. I've seen some of those shows (as have a nephew and 2 nieces who have watched each of them). They seemed to be pretty good shows for kids.

11-23-2007, 01:47 PM	#28
Jon Mad Scientist Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,356	As stated, I have watched some with young relatives. I have not "fallen for the hype", I have just watched with said relatives; and the shows don't seem to be as bad as you're making them out to be.

11-24-2007, 09:27 AM	#31
Drtooth Foot Elite Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 4,439	But in case people want to know the truth, Sesame Workshop only put this disclaimer on the DVD as a way to say, "Hey parents, if you have a 1 year old that loves Elmo, don't buy it." Go to Amazon.com and read reviews posted (clearly) by parents that buy anything with the Sesame Street lable on it to shut their kids up for an hour. They all talk about how the kid has no interrest in sitting down and watching TV for an hour. And it has nothing to do with the content. It has everything to do with this. When kids are that young, they do not WANT to watch TV. They want to explore the world around them. And of course they're not going to want to listen to Sesame Road. What one or two year old can get the reference to the Beatles? __________________ [Insert mildly amusing banner here]