What if the OT was revived and aimed at adults?

[Jo Dawn]

Ok, so it would work and be cool... If...

They ditched the crap comedy and drawing. Got rid of Bebop, Rocksteady, Krang and possibly Shredder, though I could deal with him.

As long as April wasn't a ditzy mean reporter with bad fashion sense and rid her of Irma. Oh, and they made sure there were no Neutrons or whatever, no bug Baxter, no bad theme song AND if they could possibly make them a family and not have Splinter introduce them as 'friends'.

So, if they did all that as a revival, I might check it out.

[Mr. Stay Puft]

Originally Posted by Jo Dawn

Ok, so it would work and be cool... If...

They ditched the crap comedy and drawing. Got rid of Bebop, Rocksteady, Krang and possibly Shredder, though I could deal with him.

As long as April wasn't a ditzy mean reporter with bad fashion sense and rid her of Irma. Oh, and they made sure there were no Neutrons or whatever, no bug Baxter, no bad theme song AND if they could possibly make them a family and not have Splinter introduce them as 'friends'.

So, if they did all that as a revival, I might check it out.

So in other words, 2k3. We already have that. We all know a true-to-comics adaption would be great, that's why Goognasnootch geared the topic in another direction.

[Jo Dawn]

Well... my post was rather tongue in cheek.

And not 2K3... As good as that was, it coulda been better. I'm just saying how you can up the OT to make it good, like the question was asked. And that's my opinion.

[AquaParade]

I always thought Bug Baxter could work if done properly, but only because if it was done by me, it'd have the same results as him being stuck in a robot body. I'd just use it as a device to make baxter go mad.

[Kendamu]

I dunno. If I had the time to learn Flash like I planned on (damn school) I'd make a more concrete example of how I envision the idea of reviving the OT.

If I still care over the summer I just might do it. I can't promise good voice acting, though.

[Ramboraph4life aka Matt]

If there was a revival of the old toon, I think it would be cool if they played with the "Slash" character a little bit more. Make him a little smarter and more sadistic instead of the complete moron (except the one episode where he got super smart) that he was in the OT.

Also it would be cool if each turtle sort have had his own 'arch-rival'. I think it would be cool if Raph and Slash were sort of 'arch-rivals'. Maybe have their own 'one on one' stories and plot developments.

(I guess what I mean by "arch-rival" is like in the X-Men cartoon Wolverine/Sabretooth had the whole 'rival/mano a mano' background to it...if that makes any sense).

Maybe have similar plot threads with Leo/Shredder or Donny/Stockman...their own rivalry stories as well. Heck even Mikey could have a more playful rivalry with Bebop and Rocksteady, or whoever.

[Krang]

Originally Posted by Goongasnootch

There are plenty of non-violent comedy shows on network television and cable aimed at adults. That's pretty much what the OT was throughout the majority of it's course: a comedy (with a little action here and there). So, what if the OT was revived and was given a tone aimed more at the 20-something and above crowd who was around for the original OT?

Personally, I wouldn't be interested. The comedy style is one of the most enjoyable aspects of the original cartoon for me, and I especially wouldn't want to see it replaced by the type of humor typically seen in those types of shows. If there were any kind of revival of the OT, I think it would work best as a direct-to-DVD animated movie or short series with the original voices and writers.

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Originally Posted by Jo Dawn

They ditched the crap comedy and drawing. Got rid of Bebop, Rocksteady, Krang and possibly Shredder, though I could deal with him.

As long as April wasn't a ditzy mean reporter with bad fashion sense and rid her of Irma. Oh, and they made sure there were no Neutrons or whatever, no bug Baxter, no bad theme song AND if they could possibly make them a family and not have Splinter introduce them as 'friends'.

Sounds to me like you haven't seen the original cartoon in a long time. You should try watching a few episodes again, because I bet it's not as bad as you remember it. Unless you're afraid you'll end up liking it.

[General Traag]

Since i just watched 'Kung Fu Hustle' i think a mixture of humor and dark styled action can end up being VERY good.
But like krang i wouldn't want the comedy to be left out, it's the essence of the ot.

[Jo Dawn]

Originally Posted by Krang

Sounds to me like you haven't seen the original cartoon in a long time. You should try watching a few episodes again, because I bet it's not as bad as you remember it. Unless you're afraid you'll end up liking it.

Krang, my love... I have. I bought the first couple DVDs... And I couldn't finish one episode. I was sad that, um, it was worse than I remembered. Though I have to admit to you that I wasn't as highly entertained by it even back then as much as my brother was... He was always into that kinda humor. I wasn't as much.

But who knows... Maybe one day I'll suck it up and try watching it again...


*kisses at Krang*

[syd]

Originally Posted by Michelangelo83

Whoa, for some reason I think of an "Adult Swim"-style TMNT show I hear a scenario like this play out:

Mike stumbles into the lair with his headband on sideways, singing "Smack Dat" and chuckling to himself; he makes his way to the nearest chair and falls into it. Raph and Casey are plopped in front of the tube, watching a late-night action moviefest. Raph lets out a belch after chugging his twelfth beer and call over to Mike "Hey bro, how'd ya make out with that chick?"

Mike: *laughs* With my mouth dumbass! Anyway, ya shoulda seen her dude, total hotness!"

Anyway, I'm going to stop right there...my point is the concept could work if done right like "Batman:TAS" or even "Spawn" if you want a true adult hero cartoon. Spawn didn't last long, but it was cool.

Just as long as we don't see OT toons played out in Family Guy fashion:

Leo: Hey Don, whatcha got there?
Don: It's a microwave neural disruptor, something you're puny mind couldn't comprehend.
Leo: Can I touch it?
Don: No.
Leo takes out his sword and slices it, "Fine, I'll just cut it then!"
Don: What the hell did you just do?!
Leo: I just said stupid, I cut it. You wouldn't let me touch it so I whacked it with my shiny cutty-thingy.

Okay, I'm bored at work and this is what it leads too....I better go find something to do.

Later all.

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i'd like to see that kinda doujinshi.

[Spitfire]

Originally Posted by Jo Dawn

Krang, my love... I have. I bought the first couple DVDs... And I couldn't finish one episode. I was sad that, um, it was worse than I remembered. Though I have to admit to you that I wasn't as highly entertained by it even back then as much as my brother was... He was always into that kinda humor. I wasn't as much.

But who knows... Maybe one day I'll suck it up and try watching it again...

So what about TMNT do you like? Is your fandom limited to the comics or what cause from what you've been saying in this topic it sounds like your not very fond of them at all.

[Jo Dawn]

How does that sound like I'm fond of them? I'm not fond of the OT as much as the rest, no. The (lack of) humor didn't appeal to me. I liked 2K3, FF not counting. I like the comics. I like most parts of the movies. This topic only has to do with OT. And the OT is not 'the' TMNT.

I love the potential TMNT has. I'd also love to fully discuss my theories in detail, but that's off topic and I'm not sure how close to the 'no bashing' rule. Because they aren't as shallow as they appear.

[Spitfire]

That's fine by me, to each their own. I was just wondering because I don't see you post in the comic or movie section to often and you don't like the old toon or FF. Just trying to see what kind of fan you are. I know alot of people on here are big fans who like mostly all things TMNT.

[VaughnMichael]

I think it's safe to say Jo is a a serious tmnt fan not into the comedy side.
But hell I could be wrong but thats what it would seem.

[Drtooth]

Originally Posted by Krang

Personally, I wouldn't be interested. The comedy style is one of the most enjoyable aspects of the original cartoon for me, and I especially wouldn't want to see it replaced by the type of humor typically seen in those types of shows. If there were any kind of revival of the OT, I think it would work best as a direct-to-DVD animated movie or short series with the original voices and writers.

Exactly. I just don't see the Turtles doing anything like that unless it was a parody in Family Guy or something. I second a small series or DTV movie, since... well, how do you do old style TMNT without copying the episodes they already had, even inadvertantly?

A revival of that kind would only work if everyone from the first series was involved. That is why I liked how 2k3 was different. Could you imagine if they did the same type of show without the original writers or voice actors? it would be nothing more than a pale imitation and in no way as well done.

Plus, as I said, even if you do it really well, how do you prevent it from becomming a retread of the series?

As for the Krang and Shredder playing off each other as an old Married couple... well... isn't that what James Avery said they were doing in the old series anyway (according to one of the DVD interviews)?

[Kendamu]

Originally Posted by Drtooth

Exactly. I just don't see the Turtles doing anything like that unless it was a parody in Family Guy or something. I second a small series or DTV movie, since... well, how do you do old style TMNT without copying the episodes they already had, even inadvertantly?

A revival of that kind would only work if everyone from the first series was involved. That is why I liked how 2k3 was different. Could you imagine if they did the same type of show without the original writers or voice actors? it would be nothing more than a pale imitation and in no way as well done.

Plus, as I said, even if you do it really well, how do you prevent it from becomming a retread of the series?

As for the Krang and Shredder playing off each other as an old Married couple... well... isn't that what James Avery said they were doing in the old series anyway (according to one of the DVD interviews)?

1) If there were an OT revival aimed at an audience that gre up on the OT and was aimed at that audience, I would think it would be best if the old crew was involved also. No questioning that.

2) Krange and Shredder: The difference between how it was in the OT and how I'd like to see it in a revival is the difference between how they literally were in the OT and how James Avery presented the situation when asked "What's Shredder doing now?" in his interview on one of the OT DVDs.... Season 4 or 5, I think.

[Mr._Mutant_Man]

Originally Posted by Mikeys_in_tha_hizouse

Of course I am. I wouldn't want it directly out there. Think more like the first few seasons of Ren & Stimpy.

Or how about this...

Oh man, that provided a much needed laugh.

Anyway, if they were going to reimagine the old toon, I would like to have them retain April's bad fashion sense, but update it. So her wardrobe would consist of a skirt with Ugg boots or something.

[Drtooth]

Somehow I could just see one of the Mousers talking like the effeminant weird guy from Family Guy... You know, the same voice they used for Jaws 5 Fire Island?

"Hey Yall... I'm gonna chew up somma dem walls... then I gonna chew up you're master...num num num num..."

[Mr. Stay Puft]

Originally Posted by Goongasnootch

2) Krange and Shredder: The difference between how it was in the OT and how I'd like to see it in a revival is the difference between how they literally were in the OT and how James Avery presented the situation when asked "What's Shredder doing now?" in his interview on one of the OT DVDs.... Season 4 or 5, I think.

That's exactly what I was thinking of. And I believe it was season 4.

[Dr. Doom]

Originally Posted by Jo Dawn

Ok, so it would work and be cool... If...

They ditched the crap comedy and drawing. Got rid of Bebop, Rocksteady, Krang and possibly Shredder, though I could deal with him.

As long as April wasn't a ditzy mean reporter with bad fashion sense and rid her of Irma. Oh, and they made sure there were no Neutrons or whatever, no bug Baxter, no bad theme song AND if they could possibly make them a family and not have Splinter introduce them as 'friends'.

So, if they did all that as a revival, I might check it out.

Wouldn't all that stuff make it NOT the old toon?