Sweeny Todd:The Demon Barbar of Fleet Street *SPOILERS*

Mandi-chan · 12-26-2007, 05:17 AM

Anyone here have the pleasure of watching this fantastic looking movie yet?

Sadly, I haven't all thanks to my lousy theater (so now, I have do drive an extra half hour or so to see it this weekend).

But I figured someone here had and wanted to know what you thought (I don't want to be spoiled though, so if you're going to discuss stuff that happens in the movie please use spoiler tags. Thanks).

*Spitfire* · 12-30-2007, 12:04 AM

I saw it and enjoyed it, strange I hate musicals but Burton usually delivers. The singing didn't annoy me like it usually does in musicals but I think this one will suffer. It's way to violent for the rather docile musical loving crowd and most violence fanatics will assume it's just some prissy musical like "Hair Spray" that's loud and annoying.

I'd recommend a view to anyone if you can stomach the violence and get used to the singing.

Jo269976 · 01-03-2008, 09:09 AM

It comes out over here in the UK on the 25th, and it's rated 18

Meaning if I'm lucky I'll get into it (I managed to get into Saw 4 somehow though

) or wait for the DVD.

But this has been one of my most anticipated movies of the year and I'm glad Tim Burton has finally created a violence-filled tale, even if it's an adaption.

Looking forward to it

*Kunoichi_Haruko* · 01-03-2008, 02:59 PM

I've seen it! Hands down, one of the best movies I've seen of all 2007. Seriously. Spitfire may have a point about the "too violent vs. too musical" aspect, but this film seems to cater to a niche market anyway. Most of the people who went opening weekend (myself included) knew about the story of Sweeney Todd, and knew about the singing. By the way, Depp and Helena Bonham Carter are very capable singers-- He's no George Hearn, and she's no Patti LuPone (not by a longshot), but their voices complement one another, and it works for the medium this story's being told in. I loved it, and I plan on seeing it again.

Mandi-chan · 01-05-2008, 07:31 AM

I just saw it last night and thought it was great!

However, my enjoyment of the film was killed slightly by (IMO) rude individuals watching it.

A couple of people kept laughing during the "Johanna" sequence (I failed to see what was so funny about Todd's murders, thought they were well done to be honest). And then one of them started mocking the final line of the film afterwards (he actually had made several comments during the film, making it clear that he wasn't enjoying it).

It's just annoying and rude to me when people do that at a movie. I've sat through movies in a theater that I've HATED passionately, but I never once made any comments about it until AFTER the movies had finished.

*Tinuvielsdreams* · 01-11-2008, 01:40 PM

I really enjoyed it. The actors like Johnny Depp, and Helena Bonham Carter who can act and sing just amaze me.
I loved the dark color scheme that is stylisticly Tim Burton with the bright red Blood poured out like a tarantino or rodrigez film.

Spoiler:

Alan Rickman and Timothy Spall work very well together as evil duo although I had to keep reminding myself I wasn't watching The Prisoner of azkaban...lol

*Kunoichi_Haruko* · 01-11-2008, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Tinuvielsdreams

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OMG yes! I completely agree.

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Alan Rickman and Timothy Spall work very well together as evil duo although I had to keep reminding myself I wasn't watching The Prisoner of azkaban...lol

Yeah so many people have made references to Harry Potter because of those two, and Helena as well.

~~Jack Skellington~~ · 01-12-2008, 12:53 AM

haven't seen it yet

Mandi-chan · 01-14-2008, 03:54 AM

I've seen it 3 times so far, can't get enough of it.

Yay! It won "Best Picture for Musical or Comedy" and Johnny Depp won "Best Actor in Musical or Comedy"!

Ra · 01-14-2008, 03:57 AM

I would absolutely love to see it, if only for the fact that it hasn't been released in Australia yet. Really, it's going to be about a month between the release in the US and the release in Australia and the UK...ugh.

But as soon as it comes out, I'm going to go and watch it. It looks fantastic, and everyone says it is fantastic, so I'm more hyped up than ever to see it. Oh well...it's just two more weeks, I guess...

Fugitoid Jones · 01-15-2008, 03:35 AM

OOOHHhhhh yeah, I loved it. Sweeny Todd is precisely how I like my musicals, dark and bloody. I'm a big Tim Burton fan (his movies are why I went to film school), I enjoy all his movies, yes, even some of his "lesser" films like Planet of the Apes and Mars Attacks. Sweeny Todd was probably his best film since Sleepy Hallow. Great sets and cinematography, the acting was really well done (I was especially impressed by the young boy), and I didn't find any of the songs annoying. As far as films of 2007 go, I would put it as #2 on my favs list right behind Transformers and right above 300.

*Raph's Girl* · 01-15-2008, 11:40 AM

I haven't seen this version but I saw the 1998 version (not a musical) the other day on ION tv and thought it was the weirdest thing ever.

Reportadly it's based on a true story!

What's kinda ironic is what Johnny Depp said as Willy Wonka. "Everything in this room is eatable, even I'm eatable! But that is called cannibalism, my dear children, and is in fact frowned upon in most societies."

*Spitfire* · 01-15-2008, 07:58 PM

Hey not like he ate the pies

*Sage Ninja* · 01-15-2008, 11:05 PM

I saw this and it was really good however I was seriously put out that it was a musical. I've seen the story of Sweeny Todd in a straight to TV version with no singing and I really liked it. It was really creepy and the version that I saw had the little boy in the story with no tongue and Sweeny was much older and BALD! Althoughy Tim Butrons movie by far more gory amd bloody and parts made me cringe...in a good way.

I noticed some changes where made with the story and some back story ommitted. But I still found Tim Burtons take on this movie pretty good. Now that I'm over the annoyance that this was a musical and I think I'm going to give this movie another viewing so I can appriciate this version with out bias.

*Raph's Girl* · 01-16-2008, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Sage Ninja

. It was really creepy and the version that I saw had the little boy in the story with no tongue and Sweeny was much older and BALD!

That would be the 1998 version starring Ben Kingsly. If you can catch it it's been airing on the ION Network. That's the version I watched the other day.

There's several books about the life of Sweeny Todd that Im interested in getting. I love true stories (altho Sweeny Todd is definatly an odd and gruesome one). Apperantly the story of Sweeny Todd has been around since the late 1700's (he was reportadly hanged in 1802). The most well known version of the legend is called The String of Pearls by Thomas Peckett Prest in 1846

Mandi-chan · 01-18-2008, 08:37 AM

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That would be the 1998 version starring Ben Kingsly. If you can catch it it's been airing on the ION Network. That's the version I watched the other day.

Would you happen to know when it'll be on again?

*Raph's Girl* · 01-18-2008, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Mandi-chan

Would you happen to know when it'll be on again?

I just checked.. It's not airing again anytime soon unfortunatly. But you might be able to find it other ways. It's called The Tale of Sweeny Todd. Came out in 1998 even tho tv guide is saying 1999.

Jo269976 · 01-20-2008, 09:07 AM

Saw it yesterday here in the UK at the advanced screenings, I'm one of the lucky bunch of under 18's to get in to see it as I have relatives working at my cinema (movie theatre)

It annoyed me because I'm only 16 but I was acting more mature than half of the adults talking and acting up during it, one person talked on their phone for the entire Ballad at the start

Ok, all I have to say this movie was just...amazing

I was speechless when it ended as it's such an incredible journey both in terms of human emotions and in terms of plot.

*spoiler*

The blood was perfect as it obviously didn't look real in terms of amount or colouring but I felt that it expressed Todd's anger and frustration perfectly. Red representing anger and the huge amounts representing the great amount of both that and frustration.

The ending I felt was very poetic, Mrs. Lovett being cooked along with the pies that made her famous and Sweeney having his throat slit like the live's he had destoryed.

It ended just perfectly aswell, the story is about Sweeney Todd, from he arrives in London to his death...nothing more is shown about the plot as Sweeney is destoryed. It's a film about revenge, anything after his revenge is irrelevant and doesn't need to be shown.

I guess these film studies classes at my school are taking effect

Anyway I'll wrap it up...

10/10

Tim Burton's greatest achievement!

A sure run-in for one of my favourite films of all time.

Mandi-chan · 01-22-2008, 08:07 PM

I agree with everything you said Jo269976.

Personally, I feel this is one of Burton and Johnny's best, easily a favorite movie of mine now.

12-26-2007, 05:17 AM	#1
Mandi-chan Stone Warrior Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 932	Sweeny Todd:The Demon Barber of Fleet Street SPOILERS Anyone here have the pleasure of watching this fantastic looking movie yet? Sadly, I haven't all thanks to my lousy theater (so now, I have do drive an extra half hour or so to see it this weekend). But I figured someone here had and wanted to know what you thought (I don't want to be spoiled though, so if you're going to discuss stuff that happens in the movie please use spoiler tags. Thanks). Last edited by Mandi-chan; 12-28-2007 at 04:31 AM.

01-03-2008, 09:09 AM	#3
Jo269976 Stone Warrior Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Arkham Asylum Posts: 592	It comes out over here in the UK on the 25th, and it's rated 18 Meaning if I'm lucky I'll get into it (I managed to get into Saw 4 somehow though ) or wait for the DVD. But this has been one of my most anticipated movies of the year and I'm glad Tim Burton has finally created a violence-filled tale, even if it's an adaption. Looking forward to it __________________

01-03-2008, 02:59 PM	#4
Kunoichi_Haruko A shell of a good hit! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Richmond, Va. Posts: 1,685	I've seen it! Hands down, one of the best movies I've seen of all 2007. Seriously. Spitfire may have a point about the "too violent vs. too musical" aspect, but this film seems to cater to a niche market anyway. Most of the people who went opening weekend (myself included) knew about the story of Sweeney Todd, and knew about the singing. By the way, Depp and Helena Bonham Carter are very capable singers-- He's no George Hearn, and she's no Patti LuPone (not by a longshot), but their voices complement one another, and it works for the medium this story's being told in. I loved it, and I plan on seeing it again. __________________

01-11-2008, 01:40 PM	#6
Tinuvielsdreams Nothing without passion Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 1,722	I really enjoyed it. The actors like Johnny Depp, and Helena Bonham Carter who can act and sing just amaze me. I loved the dark color scheme that is stylisticly Tim Burton with the bright red Blood poured out like a tarantino or rodrigez film. Spoiler: Did anyone else cringe every time the bodies hit the basement floor, I thought that was worse then the actual throat slashing. The twist at the end was slightly predictable but the shot of him holding his wife while he was dying was amazing, the posing of it or something. I just thought that was incredible well done. Alan Rickman and Timothy Spall work very well together as evil duo although I had to keep reminding myself I wasn't watching The Prisoner of azkaban...lol

01-14-2008, 03:57 AM	#10
Ra It's my desire? Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: In your pants. Posts: 4,441	I would absolutely love to see it, if only for the fact that it hasn't been released in Australia yet. Really, it's going to be about a month between the release in the US and the release in Australia and the UK...ugh. But as soon as it comes out, I'm going to go and watch it. It looks fantastic, and everyone says it is fantastic, so I'm more hyped up than ever to see it. Oh well...it's just two more weeks, I guess... __________________ "So. The whole lot of you against little old me? How retarded."

12-30-2007, 12:04 AM	#2
Spitfire Writer • Director Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 12,035	I saw it and enjoyed it, strange I hate musicals but Burton usually delivers. The singing didn't annoy me like it usually does in musicals but I think this one will suffer. It's way to violent for the rather docile musical loving crowd and most violence fanatics will assume it's just some prissy musical like "Hair Spray" that's loud and annoying. I'd recommend a view to anyone if you can stomach the violence and get used to the singing. __________________ Check out my online portfolio http://www.christopherpelletier.com/

01-05-2008, 07:31 AM	#5
Mandi-chan Stone Warrior Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 932	I just saw it last night and thought it was great! However, my enjoyment of the film was killed slightly by (IMO) rude individuals watching it. A couple of people kept laughing during the "Johanna" sequence (I failed to see what was so funny about Todd's murders, thought they were well done to be honest). And then one of them started mocking the final line of the film afterwards (he actually had made several comments during the film, making it clear that he wasn't enjoying it). It's just annoying and rude to me when people do that at a movie. I've sat through movies in a theater that I've HATED passionately, but I never once made any comments about it until AFTER the movies had finished.

01-12-2008, 12:53 AM	#8
~~Jack Skellington~~ Banned Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: halloweentown Posts: 161	haven't seen it yet

01-14-2008, 03:54 AM	#9
Mandi-chan Stone Warrior Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 932	I've seen it 3 times so far, can't get enough of it. Yay! It won "Best Picture for Musical or Comedy" and Johnny Depp won "Best Actor in Musical or Comedy"!

01-15-2008, 03:35 AM	#11
Fugitoid Jones Stone Warrior Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: D'hoonib, VT Posts: 886	OOOHHhhhh yeah, I loved it. Sweeny Todd is precisely how I like my musicals, dark and bloody. I'm a big Tim Burton fan (his movies are why I went to film school), I enjoy all his movies, yes, even some of his "lesser" films like Planet of the Apes and Mars Attacks. Sweeny Todd was probably his best film since Sleepy Hallow. Great sets and cinematography, the acting was really well done (I was especially impressed by the young boy), and I didn't find any of the songs annoying. As far as films of 2007 go, I would put it as #2 on my favs list right behind Transformers and right above 300. __________________ "You are right, I have always known about man. From the evidence, I believe his wisdom must walk hand and hand with his idiocy. His emotions must rule his brain. He must be a warlike creature who gives battle to everything around him, even himself." -Dr. Zaius Last edited by Fugitoid Jones; 01-15-2008 at 03:42 AM.

01-15-2008, 11:40 AM	#12
Raph's Girl Dierna Soul, Reporter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Jakku Posts: 10,831	I haven't seen this version but I saw the 1998 version (not a musical) the other day on ION tv and thought it was the weirdest thing ever. Reportadly it's based on a true story! What's kinda ironic is what Johnny Depp said as Willy Wonka. "Everything in this room is eatable, even I'm eatable! But that is called cannibalism, my dear children, and is in fact frowned upon in most societies." __________________

01-15-2008, 07:58 PM	#13
Spitfire Writer • Director Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 12,035	Hey not like he ate the pies __________________ Check out my online portfolio http://www.christopherpelletier.com/

01-15-2008, 11:05 PM	#14
Sage Ninja Band of the Hawk Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: USA Posts: 3,927	I saw this and it was really good however I was seriously put out that it was a musical. I've seen the story of Sweeny Todd in a straight to TV version with no singing and I really liked it. It was really creepy and the version that I saw had the little boy in the story with no tongue and Sweeny was much older and BALD! Althoughy Tim Butrons movie by far more gory amd bloody and parts made me cringe...in a good way. I noticed some changes where made with the story and some back story ommitted. But I still found Tim Burtons take on this movie pretty good. Now that I'm over the annoyance that this was a musical and I think I'm going to give this movie another viewing so I can appriciate this version with out bias. __________________ Cassandra: You won't fight me, but will you fight--for him! Cassandra's Revenge ~Tangled the Series ________________________________ http://frankviola.org/2012/01/30/godsviewofawoman/ _______________________________ http://nox-artemis.tumblr.com/post/4...k-and-feminism

01-20-2008, 09:07 AM	#18
Jo269976 Stone Warrior Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Arkham Asylum Posts: 592	Saw it yesterday here in the UK at the advanced screenings, I'm one of the lucky bunch of under 18's to get in to see it as I have relatives working at my cinema (movie theatre) It annoyed me because I'm only 16 but I was acting more mature than half of the adults talking and acting up during it, one person talked on their phone for the entire Ballad at the start Ok, all I have to say this movie was just...amazing I was speechless when it ended as it's such an incredible journey both in terms of human emotions and in terms of plot. spoiler The blood was perfect as it obviously didn't look real in terms of amount or colouring but I felt that it expressed Todd's anger and frustration perfectly. Red representing anger and the huge amounts representing the great amount of both that and frustration. The ending I felt was very poetic, Mrs. Lovett being cooked along with the pies that made her famous and Sweeney having his throat slit like the live's he had destoryed. It ended just perfectly aswell, the story is about Sweeney Todd, from he arrives in London to his death...nothing more is shown about the plot as Sweeney is destoryed. It's a film about revenge, anything after his revenge is irrelevant and doesn't need to be shown. I guess these film studies classes at my school are taking effect Anyway I'll wrap it up... 10/10 Tim Burton's greatest achievement! A sure run-in for one of my favourite films of all time. __________________

01-22-2008, 08:07 PM	#19
Mandi-chan Stone Warrior Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 932	I agree with everything you said Jo269976. Personally, I feel this is one of Burton and Johnny's best, easily a favorite movie of mine now.