SSBB Thread: IT'S OUT!!!!!!!!!! - Page 64

*Mecha Cow* · 03-11-2008, 05:30 PM

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You're the kind of person who buys each version of the Gameboy because you're a consumer whore?

You better believe it.

*Dr. Doom* · 03-11-2008, 07:02 PM

Ok, here we go.

I've spent all my free time over the past 3 days playing the game, so I just had to read through about 3 pages of posts to catch up. And since this already got deleted once, I'll try to sum up how I feel below in a more condensed format.

SSE

I honestly don't know why everyone hates it quite so much. It's much better than just having an arcade mode to go through like most fighting games out there, I can't stand that. It's certainly not anywhere near the best single player experience out there, but you've gotta take it for what it is. It took me about 10 hours to beat, and I'll admit that the random enemies did become extremely frustrating, but I was also playing it on hard. It served me as an enjoyable way to grab pretty much all the characters except Toon Link and Jigglypuff in one fell swoop and it didn't really become tedious to me (it started to towards the end, but I finished the game before it really got any worse). And besides, as everyone agrees, the cut scenes are awesome. I loved so much of what we saw there, a lot of the scenes just got me extremely pumped and excited. It was all so epic. Even if it was only a vessel for those clips, I'm glad it was there, but I also had fun going through it. I'd like to go through the whole thing again with a friend. I have a feeling I'll enjoy it even more that way.

Wolf

Thankfully, he seems to have lived up to my excitement. I'm very happy with how he turned out, especially because he plays so uniquely from Fox and Falco. Conceptually, their moves are all the same (blaster, reflector, quick swipe and propulsion), but they all function completely seperately. It's like comparing Luigi's Green Missle to Pikachu's propulsion move. Or the Nikita to Samus' missles. Same idea, different functionality. I ended up being pretty satisfied with the voice, as well, and I'm actually ok with the Landmaster, even if it doesn't make any sense.

Snake

I was a little concerned that he's be unweildy because of how unorthodox his moves came across leading up to the release, but he's actually pretty fun and not THAT hard to use. Granted, he plays a little differently than your average character, but it works. His forward and up smashes are devestating (as well as his nuetral A combo) and he does great in really chaotic matches where he can just jump in and blow everyone up at once.

Sonic

Sonic on the other hand is a bit dissapointing, if only because three of his four B moves are all essentially the same thing. It makes him kinda boring, I've only played him like twice, though, so I won't rule out the possibility that I may end up enjoying him more down the road.

Pokémon Trainer

I'll agree with what's been said so far. His voice is bad. But frankly, I'm right at home with that, because that's all I've ever known Pokémon characters to sound like. So he really does sound the part for me. He's also really fun to use. It's refreshing having 3 different characters that you can swicth between. I was mostly lookign forward to using Squirtle leading up to the release, but I think Ivysaur is probably my best of them all.

Samus

Samus is a character that I considered one of my best in Melee, and she hasn't really changed from that, discounting the obvious exception of the Zero Suit. I guess I was skeptical about having that forced on you when you sue the Final Smash, but I gotta say that I really like the dynamic of switching between the Power and Zero suits and I'm happy with how it turned out.

Ike

Roy who? Ike is great, I love playing as him. He's probably my best character thus far, and it's refreshing that he has his own moves and everything, but at the same time I felt right at home playing as him from the start. He's insanely powerful, but he still manages to move well enough that I can actually manuever him, which is, needless to say, a great combination.

Meta Knight

I also really like him, though I guess I don't have too much else to say in regards to him. But I've been using him a lot, too.

Toon Link

Can we not get some cell shading in here? All the trophies from Wind Waker are cell shaded, from what I remember. I was suprised when I first saw that he was not. That's sorta like his defining characteristic.

Stages

I certainly have my favorites (though that sometimes has more to do with music than anything else), but in general, I think they did a great job with all the stages and they're all very exciting and fun (with the exception of Rumble Falls, I still hate that upward scrolling crap). There's a lot going on in all the stages, so they keep you interested, but it's not so much that it gets in the way of enjoyign yourself. Not generally anyways. I still have a few left to unlock.

Smash Balls

They're all over the place! I wasn't expecting them to be so common!

WiFi

It definitely is under some stress right now. Yesterday I couldn't connect to Peanut at all and kept getting error codes, and I actually had one match wherein the first 20 seconds were stretched out across about 5 minutes. But aside from that and some slowdown when I first began a long session of consecutive matches, it's been pretty good and most of the time I don't even notice any lag. I was even winning pretty consistently. I do hope it will improve, though.

*Cure* · 03-11-2008, 08:56 PM

I beat SSE. Glad that's over. I can't believe I was actually trying to get 100%...

**ThirdMarioBro** · 03-11-2008, 09:50 PM

Honestly, I rather like Rumble Falls. I hated Icicle Mountain because it was seemingly random, but Rumble Falls has a clearly defined stage pattern, and you always know what is coming. Also, anything with Bramble Blast playing is made of infinite win, regardless of it's deformities.

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Originally Posted by Peanut

Yeah, I have three different menu themes at this point, the one from Melee included.

Thank God. Switched, and locked. Buh-bye Brawl theme.

Peanut · 03-11-2008, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ThirdMarioBro

Honestly, I rather like Rumble Falls. I hated Icicle Mountain because it was seemingly random, but Rumble Falls has a clearly defined stage pattern, and you always know what is coming. Also, anything with Bramble Blast playing is made of infinite win, regardless of it's deformities..

You know, I strangely like it too. And the only REAL reason is because of the music, to be perfectly honest.

The Shelf · 03-12-2008, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ThirdMarioBro

Thank God. Switched, and locked. Buh-bye Brawl theme.

Hmph. I'm rather sick of the Melee theme. Brawl's is fresh and new, so I'll be keeping it on for a little while.

I don't mind Rumble Falls too much. It's one of my least favorite levels in Brawl, but it's much better than Icicle Mountain. It feels less cluttered and doesn't seem to move as fast even during the "speed up" portions. It's a shame Donkey Kong didn't get another new level, though, but oh well. I'm not a big fan of Flat Zone 2 either, but I can live with it. Other than that, I enjoy pretty much every new stage in the game.

Peanut · 03-12-2008, 02:08 PM

Yeah, there are definitely a lot of good stages this time around. I think a better balance of good vs bad when compared with Melee, for sure. I'm not really a fan of the old school stages, though. And while I love the style, music and mini-games of the WarioWare stage, having people turn invincible every 30 seconds is pretty annoying. New Pork City is also pretty awful.

One thing that disappoints me right now is that you can't put different songs on the Melee stages. The only options are the original songs. That seems like a short-sighted mistake to me.

The Shelf · 03-12-2008, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Peanut

And while I love the style, music and mini-games of the WarioWare stage, having people turn invincible every 30 seconds is pretty annoying. New Pork City is also pretty awful.

Haha, I had forgotten about those two stages. I'm not a big fan of the Warioware stage either, but it's okay. New Pork City isn't too bad unless you're fighting against a really mobile character like Pit. I tend to play medium to slow characters, and it takes me forever to knock out Pit or Meta Knight on that level...

*Dr. Doom* · 03-12-2008, 04:04 PM

I like New Pork, but it is easily the biggest stage ever, so it's very hard to kill people. The WarioWare stage does kinda rub me the wrong way a little, I guess, but I really liek Mike and Ashley's themes, so I'm ok with it.

*The Stryker* · 03-12-2008, 05:41 PM

SSE sucks ass. After 2 levels I decided I would rather play 200 brawls to unlock characters.
Brawl code: 2707-1341-7386

*Cure* · 03-12-2008, 05:54 PM

Why hasn't Deathknight given his #? I'd like to see what he's really got.

愛 · 03-12-2008, 06:03 PM

Isn't Deathknight the tournament kid? You'd really want to take him on with the laggy online?

*Cure* · 03-12-2008, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Ai

Isn't Deathknight the tournament kid? You'd really want to take him on with the laggy online?

Yeah, but his whole strategy could come crashing down with items on.

*Dr. Doom* · 03-12-2008, 07:34 PM

ROFL, That'd be great if he lost cause he slipped on a banana peel.

**ThirdMarioBro** · 03-13-2008, 12:26 AM

I would rather suffer sexual assault than listen to Mike's Theme and Mona Pizza for extended periods of time. BUT, the two classic Wario Ware GBA melodies (aka the only Wario Ware game with awesome music) save the whole stage for me.

*Cure* · 03-13-2008, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Peanut

One thing that disappoints me right now is that you can't put different songs on the Melee stages. The only options are the original songs. That seems like a short-sighted mistake to me.

This was said on the Dojo today...

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The Melee stages available in Brawl are arranged so that you get one from each game world.

You can use the My Music feature on Melee stages, too.

In the previous Smash Bros., the background music for each stage had the same name as the stage regardless of the song’s source, so you may find yourself feeling a bit like "Huh?" when viewing just the song titles for some of the music on these stages. (EarthBound-related music is the exception to this rule.)

Additionally, the My Music feature for these Melee stages allows you to include some secret songs and music from other stages from that game world in your mixes! Collect all the songs and try it out for yourself.

So I guess we can add certain songs later...

Peanut · 03-13-2008, 02:33 PM

I already have some unlockable songs for the My Music Melee stages, but they're just old songs, so far, anywayd. I really think they should have allowed you to use any NEW songs from the series the stage represents on those stages. As it stands, I can't listen to any of the amazing DKC music on anything but the mediocre Rumble Falls stage, I'd like it if I could have used them on Jungle Japes.

**ThirdMarioBro** · 03-13-2008, 03:37 PM

I just unlocked the DK Rap. Kill me.

Peanut · 03-13-2008, 03:41 PM

As in, the Melee version? AKA worst version of the DK Rap ever!? Ugh.

Anyways, I don't know about anybody else, but I haven't smash so many things in my room in a long time as I have playing Brawl. I've broken nearly everything surrounding my TV.

*Mecha Cow* · 03-13-2008, 04:19 PM

I've got the game, bitches!

03-11-2008, 07:02 PM	#1262
Dr. Doom Allons-y! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Castle Doom Posts: 4,535	Ok, here we go. I've spent all my free time over the past 3 days playing the game, so I just had to read through about 3 pages of posts to catch up. And since this already got deleted once, I'll try to sum up how I feel below in a more condensed format. SSE I honestly don't know why everyone hates it quite so much. It's much better than just having an arcade mode to go through like most fighting games out there, I can't stand that. It's certainly not anywhere near the best single player experience out there, but you've gotta take it for what it is. It took me about 10 hours to beat, and I'll admit that the random enemies did become extremely frustrating, but I was also playing it on hard. It served me as an enjoyable way to grab pretty much all the characters except Toon Link and Jigglypuff in one fell swoop and it didn't really become tedious to me (it started to towards the end, but I finished the game before it really got any worse). And besides, as everyone agrees, the cut scenes are awesome. I loved so much of what we saw there, a lot of the scenes just got me extremely pumped and excited. It was all so epic. Even if it was only a vessel for those clips, I'm glad it was there, but I also had fun going through it. I'd like to go through the whole thing again with a friend. I have a feeling I'll enjoy it even more that way. Wolf Thankfully, he seems to have lived up to my excitement. I'm very happy with how he turned out, especially because he plays so uniquely from Fox and Falco. Conceptually, their moves are all the same (blaster, reflector, quick swipe and propulsion), but they all function completely seperately. It's like comparing Luigi's Green Missle to Pikachu's propulsion move. Or the Nikita to Samus' missles. Same idea, different functionality. I ended up being pretty satisfied with the voice, as well, and I'm actually ok with the Landmaster, even if it doesn't make any sense. Snake I was a little concerned that he's be unweildy because of how unorthodox his moves came across leading up to the release, but he's actually pretty fun and not THAT hard to use. Granted, he plays a little differently than your average character, but it works. His forward and up smashes are devestating (as well as his nuetral A combo) and he does great in really chaotic matches where he can just jump in and blow everyone up at once. Sonic Sonic on the other hand is a bit dissapointing, if only because three of his four B moves are all essentially the same thing. It makes him kinda boring, I've only played him like twice, though, so I won't rule out the possibility that I may end up enjoying him more down the road. Pokémon Trainer I'll agree with what's been said so far. His voice is bad. But frankly, I'm right at home with that, because that's all I've ever known Pokémon characters to sound like. So he really does sound the part for me. He's also really fun to use. It's refreshing having 3 different characters that you can swicth between. I was mostly lookign forward to using Squirtle leading up to the release, but I think Ivysaur is probably my best of them all. Samus Samus is a character that I considered one of my best in Melee, and she hasn't really changed from that, discounting the obvious exception of the Zero Suit. I guess I was skeptical about having that forced on you when you sue the Final Smash, but I gotta say that I really like the dynamic of switching between the Power and Zero suits and I'm happy with how it turned out. Ike Roy who? Ike is great, I love playing as him. He's probably my best character thus far, and it's refreshing that he has his own moves and everything, but at the same time I felt right at home playing as him from the start. He's insanely powerful, but he still manages to move well enough that I can actually manuever him, which is, needless to say, a great combination. Meta Knight I also really like him, though I guess I don't have too much else to say in regards to him. But I've been using him a lot, too. Toon Link Can we not get some cell shading in here? All the trophies from Wind Waker are cell shaded, from what I remember. I was suprised when I first saw that he was not. That's sorta like his defining characteristic. Stages I certainly have my favorites (though that sometimes has more to do with music than anything else), but in general, I think they did a great job with all the stages and they're all very exciting and fun (with the exception of Rumble Falls, I still hate that upward scrolling crap). There's a lot going on in all the stages, so they keep you interested, but it's not so much that it gets in the way of enjoyign yourself. Not generally anyways. I still have a few left to unlock. Smash Balls They're all over the place! I wasn't expecting them to be so common! WiFi It definitely is under some stress right now. Yesterday I couldn't connect to Peanut at all and kept getting error codes, and I actually had one match wherein the first 20 seconds were stretched out across about 5 minutes. But aside from that and some slowdown when I first began a long session of consecutive matches, it's been pretty good and most of the time I don't even notice any lag. I was even winning pretty consistently. I do hope it will improve, though. __________________ I love you, Pickle. Last edited by Dr. Doom; 03-11-2008 at 07:14 PM.

03-11-2008, 08:56 PM	#1263
Cure Y'all need Jesus Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 8,938	I beat SSE. Glad that's over. I can't believe I was actually trying to get 100%... __________________

03-12-2008, 04:04 PM	#1269
Dr. Doom Allons-y! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Castle Doom Posts: 4,535	I like New Pork, but it is easily the biggest stage ever, so it's very hard to kill people. The WarioWare stage does kinda rub me the wrong way a little, I guess, but I really liek Mike and Ashley's themes, so I'm ok with it. __________________ I love you, Pickle.

03-12-2008, 05:41 PM	#1270
The Stryker Stupid Rich Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Room 237 Posts: 11,152	SSE sucks ass. After 2 levels I decided I would rather play 200 brawls to unlock characters. Brawl code: 2707-1341-7386 __________________ @~<3 Mom~@

03-12-2008, 05:54 PM	#1271
Cure Y'all need Jesus Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 8,938	Why hasn't Deathknight given his #? I'd like to see what he's really got. __________________

03-12-2008, 02:08 PM	#1267
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	Yeah, there are definitely a lot of good stages this time around. I think a better balance of good vs bad when compared with Melee, for sure. I'm not really a fan of the old school stages, though. And while I love the style, music and mini-games of the WarioWare stage, having people turn invincible every 30 seconds is pretty annoying. New Pork City is also pretty awful. One thing that disappoints me right now is that you can't put different songs on the Melee stages. The only options are the original songs. That seems like a short-sighted mistake to me.

03-12-2008, 06:03 PM	#1272
愛 Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 7,449	Isn't Deathknight the tournament kid? You'd really want to take him on with the laggy online?

03-12-2008, 07:34 PM	#1274
Dr. Doom Allons-y! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Castle Doom Posts: 4,535	ROFL, That'd be great if he lost cause he slipped on a banana peel. __________________ I love you, Pickle.

03-13-2008, 12:26 AM	#1275
ThirdMarioBro Tea Time! Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,905	I would rather suffer sexual assault than listen to Mike's Theme and Mona Pizza for extended periods of time. BUT, the two classic Wario Ware GBA melodies (aka the only Wario Ware game with awesome music) save the whole stage for me. __________________ Last edited by ThirdMarioBro; 03-13-2008 at 12:33 AM.

03-13-2008, 02:33 PM	#1277
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	I already have some unlockable songs for the My Music Melee stages, but they're just old songs, so far, anywayd. I really think they should have allowed you to use any NEW songs from the series the stage represents on those stages. As it stands, I can't listen to any of the amazing DKC music on anything but the mediocre Rumble Falls stage, I'd like it if I could have used them on Jungle Japes.

03-13-2008, 03:37 PM	#1278
ThirdMarioBro Tea Time! Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,905	I just unlocked the DK Rap. Kill me. __________________

03-13-2008, 03:41 PM	#1279
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	As in, the Melee version? AKA worst version of the DK Rap ever!? Ugh. Anyways, I don't know about anybody else, but I haven't smash so many things in my room in a long time as I have playing Brawl. I've broken nearly everything surrounding my TV.

03-13-2008, 04:19 PM	#1280
Mecha Cow Gorgeous and modest too Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 3,699	I've got the game, bitches! __________________