Turtle Turncoat by Tony Day - My Review

soccerstud652 · 03-25-2007, 08:54 PM

http://www.trydowave.com/turncoatpt2.web.htm

A fan made comic by the brilliant cartoonist Tony Day.

I actually found this comic online a few years ago at the Technodrome forums. I saved the link, but stumbled upon it today. I gave it another read and thought I'd give my opinion on the comic. Overall, the illustrations are brilliant. They are better than professional. The dialog is a bit weaker; it has a few misspellings and some bad grammar. I am not sure if this was the intention though...to give it a NYC style and feel. (eg "enuf" instead of "enough" or "there" instead of their")

The comic carries a much darker tone than any mainstream turtles tv show or movie. Think of it as TMNT meet Pulp Fiction. The characters are all from the 1987 tv series: Casey Jones, April (as a reporter), Splinter, 4 Turtles, Shredder, Krang, Foot Soldiers (robotic), General Traag. The characters seem to represent their personalities; Raph is serious and rebellious, Spliter wise, and Shredder and Krang constantly bickering.

The story is pretty serious. April gets caught by the Foot, Casey is nearly killed rescuing her, and Raph and Leo come to a battle, leading to a 3 v 1 on Raph. The story doesn't really focus enough on the Foot or Shredder; that battle is very minor. The humor is pretty absent with only one or two jokes by Mikey. There are a few references to the 1989 TMNT Arcade Game...see if you can find them, they made me smirk a little. The violence is extremely gory - including blood and torture.

I could only read through a few pages of Part II since nothing else has been posted yet, but it looks to be more of the same, picking up a year later, Raph having gone on his own.

So overall, I think it is worth a read for any TMNT fan who feels the series is too "light hearted" or PG rated.

My question to everyone reading this is, are more parts of this comic series coming out? I would love to continue reading, but it seems nothing new has been posted in over 9 months.

*oldmanwinters* · 03-26-2007, 05:16 PM

Tony usually plans out the plot in advance, draws the pages up as he goes and then finishes each page up by coloring them. He has been working on this project page by page since at least 2001 (when I first saw it).

I try to check up with Tony every now and then, to encourage him and ask how he is doing.

The last I heard from him, he was in the middle of a move across the Atlantic from England[?] to somewhere in Indiana.

I guess he is still too busy to get around to updating. If you are reading, Tony, know that I wish you well.

*ZariusTwo* · 04-03-2007, 11:10 AM

It's Kind of like "Of Mice and Mayhem", a very well illustrated, continuity heavy, and drama ridden 24 style "conclusion" to Chip'N'Dale: Rescue Rangers, whilst that did'nt betray the show, it took it far from it's innocense and charm.

Turtle Turncoat is different, it's trying to establish it's own identity within a familiar context, but not flat out saying where and when it takes place, so it can not take place if those who want the original series to be maintained the way it is, and can for those who appreciated the original series, but wanted it to go that extra distance.

Shredder's whole torture of April is boarderline hysterical, not terrifying (maybe this was intentional),

Maybe it's the more subtle parts I liked, like Shredder and Krang's hostility, Raph and April embracing before he left, things like that that add to the touch of humanity that the original series lacked, and that should have been included.

*oldmanwinters* · 04-05-2007, 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

It's Kind of like "Of Mice and Mayhem", a very well illustrated, continuity heavy, and drama ridden 24 style "conclusion" to Chip'N'Dale: Rescue Rangers

I would so pay to see that!

*ZariusTwo* · 04-06-2007, 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldmanwinters

I would so pay to see that!

Well, it's free you know...

http://www.electricfishmusic.com/001.html

Enjoy. It's everything that's right and wrong about fanfiction for older shows, be prepared to be scared and slightly aroused

Tony Day · 05-26-2007, 11:03 AM

Thanx for the review soccerstud652 your very kind

Just wanted to give u my new web address its:

www.trydowave.com

I've been very busy with the move to the US but things have started to settle down. So, hopefully i'll be able to get on with some new pages soon.

Laterz

Tony

Mandi-chan · 05-26-2007, 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Well, it's free you know...

http://www.electricfishmusic.com/001.html

Enjoy. It's everything that's right and wrong about fanfiction for older shows, be prepared to be scared and slightly aroused

That was an awesome fancomic...it's a shame the link doesn't work anymore.

*Kunoichi_Haruko* · 05-26-2007, 11:44 AM

Yeah it does, I just tried it. You've got to click on the arrows at the top of the page.

*Whitewolf89* · 05-26-2007, 11:49 AM

Hey, Tony, good to hear from you.

I was beginning to think that you'd fallen off the face of the Earth, or something. (j/k)

Anyway, good luck with the move, stay safe, and be happy. Nice to know that one of my fave TMNT artists will be right here in the U.S. soon. Hope ya like it here! And I hope that I get to meet you in person some day.

Be well, bro.

Oh, yeah, almost forgot! (Silly, absentminded me!) I MUST remember to bookmark your new URL when I get back online at home later. Keep up the rad work, btw! The site looks great!

soccerstud652 · 05-26-2007, 12:11 PM

Tony, looking forward to some new pages.

I just re-read most of TMNT Volume 1, and I feel your comic is the 1987 series equivalent to a serious and realistic version of that show. It is nice to see since I grew up on the show, not the comics.

*Anarky* · 05-26-2007, 12:30 PM

You call "there" instead of "their" and "enuf" atmosphere-enhancing? I call those typos. And while the comic might be full of good ideas and has fantastic art, those exact typos spoil it for me.

soccerstud652 · 05-26-2007, 12:56 PM

I did not call them "enhancing." I said, maybe they are typos OR maybe they are meant to be like that to set the mood. I did not know the reason, that was only speculation on my part.

Tony Day · 05-27-2007, 05:47 AM

I'll be the first to admit that my grammar is terrible. As for the Dunno and c'mon stuff, thats intentional.

All that should be ancient history and part two will address this as my friend Alan Peters is now writing it. Not only is he a much better story teller than me he can actually spell.

Laterz all

Tony

P.s. i know i put a z on the end of later

Mandi-chan · 05-27-2007, 06:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kunoichi_Haruko

Yeah it does, I just tried it. You've got to click on the arrows at the top of the page.

Not for me.

When I click the link, I get a "504 Gateway Timeout" message.

It must be my internet connection, stinks too because I read this fancomic a couple of years ago and loved it. I had begun to re-read it a few months ago and was saving it on a disk so I could read it offline when it stopped working for me.

soccerstud652 · 05-27-2007, 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony Day

I'll be the first to admit that my grammar is terrible. As for the Dunno and c'mon stuff, thats intentional.

All that should be ancient history and part two will address this as my friend Alan Peters is now writing it. Not only is he a much better story teller than me he can actually spell.

Laterz all

Tony

P.s. i know i put a z on the end of later

Sounds good Tony, I'm excited to read it.

soccerstud652 · 07-30-2007, 11:00 PM

Tony any updates coming soon?

soccerstud652 · 09-02-2007, 08:20 AM

Tony, any news on updates?

Tony Day · 09-02-2007, 06:21 PM

Yes soccerstud652. Just finished a page today. It hasn’t got much dialogue and I was thinking of posting the next 3 at the same time but since it’s been a year I thought Id get it up there quick. (This comics gonna take me a decade if I keep going at this pace,

)
Even though getting hold of Alan (the writer who lives in the UK) is more and more difficult these days I do have the script for the following 2 pages.

The new page can be
found here: http://www.trydowave.com/turncoatpt2.web.htm
Anyways, talk soon
Tony
P.s. Does anyone know how to get flash uploaded using Dreamweaver Cs3? I’ve upgraded from dreamweaver 4. I’m doing exactly the same thing, but it doesn’t seem to want to upload?? Very annoying!!!!

soccerstud652 · 04-14-2008, 10:41 PM

Any updates Tony? When can we expect the next installment?

*oldmanwinters* · 04-14-2008, 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soccerstud652

Any updates Tony? When can we expect the next installment?

We all love Tony's updates, but the official thread is now here:
http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=13544

Cheers!

03-25-2007, 08:54 PM	#1
soccerstud652 Hench Mutant Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 493	Turtle Turncoat by Tony Day - My Review http://www.trydowave.com/turncoatpt2.web.htm A fan made comic by the brilliant cartoonist Tony Day. I actually found this comic online a few years ago at the Technodrome forums. I saved the link, but stumbled upon it today. I gave it another read and thought I'd give my opinion on the comic. Overall, the illustrations are brilliant. They are better than professional. The dialog is a bit weaker; it has a few misspellings and some bad grammar. I am not sure if this was the intention though...to give it a NYC style and feel. (eg "enuf" instead of "enough" or "there" instead of their") The comic carries a much darker tone than any mainstream turtles tv show or movie. Think of it as TMNT meet Pulp Fiction. The characters are all from the 1987 tv series: Casey Jones, April (as a reporter), Splinter, 4 Turtles, Shredder, Krang, Foot Soldiers (robotic), General Traag. The characters seem to represent their personalities; Raph is serious and rebellious, Spliter wise, and Shredder and Krang constantly bickering. The story is pretty serious. April gets caught by the Foot, Casey is nearly killed rescuing her, and Raph and Leo come to a battle, leading to a 3 v 1 on Raph. The story doesn't really focus enough on the Foot or Shredder; that battle is very minor. The humor is pretty absent with only one or two jokes by Mikey. There are a few references to the 1989 TMNT Arcade Game...see if you can find them, they made me smirk a little. The violence is extremely gory - including blood and torture. I could only read through a few pages of Part II since nothing else has been posted yet, but it looks to be more of the same, picking up a year later, Raph having gone on his own. So overall, I think it is worth a read for any TMNT fan who feels the series is too "light hearted" or PG rated. My question to everyone reading this is, are more parts of this comic series coming out? I would love to continue reading, but it seems nothing new has been posted in over 9 months. Last edited by soccerstud652; 09-11-2007 at 05:45 PM. Reason: Mispelled words.

04-03-2007, 11:10 AM	#3
ZariusTwo Overlord Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Britain, DINO THUNDER...POWER UP! Posts: 22,309	It's Kind of like "Of Mice and Mayhem", a very well illustrated, continuity heavy, and drama ridden 24 style "conclusion" to Chip'N'Dale: Rescue Rangers, whilst that did'nt betray the show, it took it far from it's innocense and charm. Turtle Turncoat is different, it's trying to establish it's own identity within a familiar context, but not flat out saying where and when it takes place, so it can not take place if those who want the original series to be maintained the way it is, and can for those who appreciated the original series, but wanted it to go that extra distance. Shredder's whole torture of April is boarderline hysterical, not terrifying (maybe this was intentional), Maybe it's the more subtle parts I liked, like Shredder and Krang's hostility, Raph and April embracing before he left, things like that that add to the touch of humanity that the original series lacked, and that should have been included. __________________ Spider-Man: The Rescue Spider-Man: The Galloping Cat Spider-Man: Scarlet Mirror Doctor Who: Child of the Daleks Last edited by ZariusTwo; 04-03-2007 at 12:06 PM.

05-26-2007, 11:03 AM	#6
Tony Day Stone Warrior Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Indiana Posts: 559	Thanx soccerstud652 Thanx for the review soccerstud652 your very kind Just wanted to give u my new web address its: www.trydowave.com I've been very busy with the move to the US but things have started to settle down. So, hopefully i'll be able to get on with some new pages soon. Laterz Tony

05-26-2007, 11:44 AM	#8
Kunoichi_Haruko A shell of a good hit! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Richmond, Va. Posts: 1,685	Yeah it does, I just tried it. You've got to click on the arrows at the top of the page. __________________

05-26-2007, 11:49 AM	#9
Whitewolf89 Freedom Fighter and Ninja Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Currently residing in the Turtles' Lair, NYC sewer system, NYC, NY Posts: 2,927	Hey, Tony, good to hear from you. I was beginning to think that you'd fallen off the face of the Earth, or something. (j/k) Anyway, good luck with the move, stay safe, and be happy. Nice to know that one of my fave TMNT artists will be right here in the U.S. soon. Hope ya like it here! And I hope that I get to meet you in person some day. Be well, bro. Oh, yeah, almost forgot! (Silly, absentminded me!) I MUST remember to bookmark your new URL when I get back online at home later. Keep up the rad work, btw! The site looks great! __________________ Brother against brother...........

03-26-2007, 05:16 PM	#2
oldmanwinters Overlord Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Between yesterday and tomorrow! Posts: 15,458	Tony usually plans out the plot in advance, draws the pages up as he goes and then finishes each page up by coloring them. He has been working on this project page by page since at least 2001 (when I first saw it). I try to check up with Tony every now and then, to encourage him and ask how he is doing. The last I heard from him, he was in the middle of a move across the Atlantic from England[?] to somewhere in Indiana. I guess he is still too busy to get around to updating. If you are reading, Tony, know that I wish you well.

05-26-2007, 12:11 PM	#10
soccerstud652 Hench Mutant Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 493	Tony, looking forward to some new pages. I just re-read most of TMNT Volume 1, and I feel your comic is the 1987 series equivalent to a serious and realistic version of that show. It is nice to see since I grew up on the show, not the comics.

05-26-2007, 12:30 PM	#11
Anarky Outlaw Hero Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Tannhauser Gate Posts: 4,867	You call "there" instead of "their" and "enuf" atmosphere-enhancing? I call those typos. And while the comic might be full of good ideas and has fantastic art, those exact typos spoil it for me. __________________ Because it's... I dunno... brutal.

05-26-2007, 12:56 PM	#12
soccerstud652 Hench Mutant Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 493	I did not call them "enhancing." I said, maybe they are typos OR maybe they are meant to be like that to set the mood. I did not know the reason, that was only speculation on my part.

05-27-2007, 05:47 AM	#13
Tony Day Stone Warrior Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Indiana Posts: 559	About the typos I'll be the first to admit that my grammar is terrible. As for the Dunno and c'mon stuff, thats intentional. All that should be ancient history and part two will address this as my friend Alan Peters is now writing it. Not only is he a much better story teller than me he can actually spell. Laterz all Tony P.s. i know i put a z on the end of later

07-30-2007, 11:00 PM	#16
soccerstud652 Hench Mutant Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 493	Tony any updates coming soon?

09-02-2007, 08:20 AM	#17
soccerstud652 Hench Mutant Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 493	Tony, any news on updates?

09-02-2007, 06:21 PM	#18
Tony Day Stone Warrior Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Indiana Posts: 559	Hello all Yes soccerstud652. Just finished a page today. It hasn’t got much dialogue and I was thinking of posting the next 3 at the same time but since it’s been a year I thought Id get it up there quick. (This comics gonna take me a decade if I keep going at this pace, ) Even though getting hold of Alan (the writer who lives in the UK) is more and more difficult these days I do have the script for the following 2 pages. The new page can be found here: http://www.trydowave.com/turncoatpt2.web.htm Anyways, talk soon Tony P.s. Does anyone know how to get flash uploaded using Dreamweaver Cs3? I’ve upgraded from dreamweaver 4. I’m doing exactly the same thing, but it doesn’t seem to want to upload?? Very annoying!!!! Last edited by Tony Day; 09-02-2007 at 06:52 PM.

04-14-2008, 10:41 PM	#19
soccerstud652 Hench Mutant Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 493	Any updates Tony? When can we expect the next installment?