The Sony Thread

[Dr. Doom]

Originally Posted by poiuytre

I've seen people going far beyond that for that Super Smash Mario Brothers Brawl game while this is objectively better and more fun.

Guys, he's not a viral marketer, he's just an a-hole who likes to compare games that have business being compared to each other.

That might be the most obnoxious thing anyone has ever posted on this forum EVER.

[poiuytre]

Originally Posted by TheCure

Are you f*cking kidding me? That's a good thing? Are you out of your f*cking mind?

You can always skip the cutscenes or use the new Pause, Fast Forward or Rewind features. They didn't forget about the people that get bored by cutscenes or have limited playtime.

Originally Posted by Dr. Doom

That might be the most obnoxious thing anyone has ever posted on this forum EVER.

Yeah, ok I'm sorry about that statement. I was just a little frustrated how everyone treated me as a viral marketer when I was just showing some love, something that gets done to that other game all the time without a backlash. I'm aware that Brawl is a more fun game for people that like party games and nintendos. No hard feelings? You seemed like one of the coolest people on the board, I wouldn't want to upset you.

[AquaParade]

Has it been confirmed that you can save during cut scenes and rewind and such? If so, I'm all for it. Hideo Kojima knows how to tell a great story. MGS3 was a tear jerker.

[GK Punk]

Originally Posted by poiuytre

What's wrong with MGS? I don't see how you could disagree unless you're the Wii Sports - Animal Crossing - Nintendogs kind of gamer.

Dude, what the hell is wrong with you. I ****ing hate MGS, and I've never played Wii Sports or Nintendogs. Animal Crossing was fun to play with my ex girlfriend though.

Oh right, I better stop there. I disagree with you so I'm not a real gamer. Go back to GameFaqs.

[Dr. Doom]

Listen, I love Metal Gear Solid just as much as you do (and it's also worth noting that I love Smash Bros. just as much), but you really have no right comparing it to a game of a completely different genre and saying it's "objectively better". That's outrageous. Even if you wanna compare MGS to say, Splinter Cell or Assassin's Creed, there's certainly gonna be people out there who like this or that better. Everyone's entitled to their opinion, and there's no reason to condescend so drastically to people who don't subscribe to your school of thought.

[Peanut]

Originally Posted by poiuytre

I was just a little frustrated how everyone treated me as a viral marketer when I was just showing some love, something that gets done to that other game all the time without a backlash.

It's done genuinely, and without being a condescending prick, too. You made a post that basically read like a fact sheet straight out of some sleaze bag PR company. Then you go onto to basically insult everyone who doesn't agree with you.

You're an idiot.

[Mecha Cow]

I've seen people going far beyond that for that Super Smash Mario Brothers Brawl game while this is objectively better and more fun.

Do you know what 'objective' means? Furthermore, the game hasn't even been released yet. I love MGS, but you need to shut the f*ck up.

[Barkworm]

I can't believe I missed this conversation! EPIC!

Damn you, university!!!

[愛]

I missed this conversation, too! Dammit!

[Ecto Jedi]

Originally Posted by poiuytre

Ok, guys. I just read that Hideo Kojima is embarrassed and afraid that people will hate him and call him a liar because he couldn't implement many of the things he was showing and talking about when he first presented MGS4. Everyone should support this game to show that he is still loved, that he's the best game designer of this time, because it's already certain to be the best game of 2008, and MGS is a series that every real gamer enjoys.

Need convincing?

Sound-wise, it is said to be the most impressive game on the market. Everything uses lossless HD audio, so for the audiophiles with high-end soundsystems, the game ought to be heaven.

Don't be scared off by screenshots. There might a plethora of games released already that surpass it visually, but MGS4 has something that something timeless; Style. The game has a sexy colorfilter that makes every location feel unique and bursting with atmosphere. There are many astonishing little touches everywhere that make the game look simply cool. (The Metal Gears bleed for example)

The gameplay looks nothing short of stunning either. The 4th entry is supposedly more action-oriented than all the previous installments combined! They designed the game as a shooter and built the stealth elements in from there, in contrast with how the other games were made. As you can see, you can play the game in two completely different ways, assuring replayability!

Last but not least, the story. If you've played a MGS game before, you will know what to expect. Hideo Kojima is Tom Clancy and M. Night Shyamalan rolled into one person. There is very little known about the story so far (other than that Snake will lose), but it will be automatically amazing. Kojima-san already confirmed there would be many plottwists that no one would have even dared to dream of. Even if you haven't played all the previous games, the game has a cool feature that shows you recaps of older plot elements at the press of a button in the middle of cutscenes. Speaking of cutscenes, it's also been comfirmed that, even without the flashback recaps, cutscenes frequently lasted over 30 minutes in length!

The game is a Playstation 3 exclusive. This game simply can't be done on any other platform. The game makes use of rumble, the sixaxis' unique motion controls and the vast size of Bluray discs.

Excited yet? It's hard not to be when there are only positive things to say about a game this great. I've got my LE copy preordered, what about you?

He reminds me of a younger, more naive me. Before I met Peanut.

[Peanut]

Originally Posted by Ecto Jedi

He reminds me of a younger, more naive me. Before I met Peanut.

LOL! Reply of the year fo sho! wooooo

[poiuytre]

I feel like I've been made a fool of. It turns out MGS4 runs at 665p at 30FPS. I'm so ticked off by this. I traded my 720p HD in for a 1080p one because I wanted to experience the game in its true glory. BUT NOW THE GAME DOESNT EVEN RUN AT A HD RESOLUTION AND AT A MEDIOCRE FRAMERATE!! I really wish I wasn't taken in by the PR lies so I could have spent the extra money I invested on the new TV on something else. I'm getting so darn sick of all the videogame industry. They show screenshots that look nothing like the final game, they lie in official statements, they do everything to make you lose your warranty when your console breaks, tons of cool games still don't get released outside of japan or take forever to come stateside, non-games are dominating the sales charts,...

Even worse is that I'm going to have to face my friend who I made fun of because Halo 3 ran at a sub-HD resolution as well. We often had discussions on which next-gen console was the best and all I had to do was point to MGS4 and feel like I had won. What's the next big j-exclusive for the system? FF13? That's still so far away. He's going to make me eat so much crow. I am so angry and embarrassed at the same time. I just want to crawl back into bed and not wake up for a whole year.

[Dr. Doom]

I guess the best thing you can do is admit you're wrong and avoid being so boastful about these things in the future so it doesn't come back and bite you in the ass.

[AquaParade]

Originally Posted by Dr. Doom

I guess the best thing you can do is admit you're wrong and avoid being so boastful about these things in the future so it doesn't come back and bite you in the ass.

That was refreshing to read.

[Peanut]

Originally Posted by poiuytre

Even worse is that I'm going to have to face my friend who I made fun of because Halo 3 ran at a sub-HD resolution as well. We often had discussions on which next-gen console was the best and all I had to do was point to MGS4 and feel like I had won.

How old are you? 10? Grow up.

And Jesus Christ, talk about overreacting. If it's anything like Halo 3, it's going to be running two frame buffers, anyways. It's going to improve performance of the game, while also allowing the HDR to run a lot better. What the hell do you want? Slightly more crisp lines, or for the game to chug like a piece of sh*t? If MGS4 or Halo 3 were to run in full 1080p resolution, they couldn't look the way they do, or contain as many mind blowing effects and on-screen action as they do. Learn some facts.

People like you are the absolute f*cking BANE of this industry.

[Ra]

Originally Posted by poiuytre

Even worse is that I'm going to have to face my friend who I made fun of because Halo 3 ran at a sub-HD resolution as well. We often had discussions on which next-gen console was the best and all I had to do was point to MGS4 and feel like I had won. What's the next big j-exclusive for the system? FF13? That's still so far away. He's going to make me eat so much crow. I am so angry and embarrassed at the same time. I just want to crawl back into bed and not wake up for a whole year.

Wow, I've sure missed out on a lot.

Peanut's right. You are acting like a child. I may be a "casual gamer" and you may be talking on another level than I am, but if you are going to make fun of a friend because of Halo 3 running at a different resolution...well...you need to grow up. Games are games. They are ENTERTAINMENT. A part of our lives to take us away from this cold, painful place known as reality.

Also, thinking you'll "win" a conversation by saying MGS4 is the best game of all time is...well, sad. There are many other games out there that can rival it, and possibly blow it out of the water. Stop acting so pathetic, brush it off, and move on with your life.

...or just do what Doom said, which I only just saw. It's pretty sound advice.

[poiuytre]

I've calmed down a little now. I'll try to keep Dr. Doom's advice in mind, in spite of how obvious it's supposed to be (so much harder in practice ). I know the boasting was my own fault, but my main issue is the fact that they've been releasing screenshots and trailers that do not represent the game accurately. They've been decieving the public which in turn caused me to waste money on a new television set.

Originally Posted by Peanut

What the hell do you want? Slightly more crisp lines, or for the game to chug like a piece of sh*t? If MGS4 or Halo 3 were to run in full 1080p resolution, they couldn't look the way they do, or contain as many mind blowing effects and on-screen action as they do. Learn some facts.

People like you are the absolute f*cking BANE of this industry.

My point<----------------------------------->Yours
Yes, I do prefer a lower resolution with lots of effects over a high resolution with low effects. HOWEVER when a game is claimed to have a high resolution AND the effects, it is only normal that people raise their expectations. The BANE of the industry is the misrepresentation of companies' own products and the people that even try to defend it.

[Peanut]

You're acting like the game won't still look spectacular. Seriously, dude. Sad. As a person who's owned an HDTV for years now, the actual visual difference between a 720p game and a 1080p game is nothing mind blowing, or even close to being a big deal.

And no, the bane of the industry are the childish little fanboys who "make fun" of other games and companies to "win" arguments. But I guess we shouldn't ask for much more from someone with sh*tty Sonic fan-art as their avatar.

[Spitfire]

I can back Peanut up on this one here. I've had an HDTV for awhile now and I worked at Best Buy where we ran games in 1080 all the time on huge 60 inch plasmas. The difference isn't very noticeable. Honestly I prefer 720 anyways it looks better in a smaller room setting. LCD is also my preferred TV. Plasma only looks good from a distance, up close it isn't as mind blowing.

[R-iZZy]

To be honest, I could give a sh*t less about what resolution an HD game best runs at. I've always been about gameplay more than graphics. I don't care if this game was in last gen graphics; so long as the gameplay and the story are top-notch, then that's all I could really ask for. The fact that it's even in HD to begin with is just a plus, regardless of the framerate (which is still decent enough to enjoy the game) or resolution it runs at.