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*nods* That's exactly how I feel about it all. I mean, if Minesweeper was remade in HD format, it wouldn't exactly make it better than the original.
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I like my analog TVs....
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I like both. Old games look good on SD, new games look good on HD.
BTW, GTA pulled a 10 from IGN. I don't put much faith in their integrity since they paid out the wazoo to get first dibs on the review, but regardless--the game looks freaking amazing.
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IGN is pathetic. I stopped reading after 'Oscar-worthy drama' and 'GTA4 is the best game since Ocarina of Time'. Also, why the hell does a video game review need to be seven f*cking pages long? That's just bad writing.
That being said, the game does look cool.
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I'm confused. Why can't GTA4 be the best game since Ocarina of Time according to them? I've never been into GTA games before, but this one does look really cool. IGN's integrity is questionable at times but all the previews and user-reviews are extremely positive as well so far. I'll certainly check it when I get my console back.
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You continue to prove that you really don't know what the f*ck you're talking about.
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I usually agree with IGN, but giving any GTA game a 10 is just beyond my comprehension. It's the same formula: run, gun, drive, take on missions. Usually, there's a new feature here or there and an improvement in graphics. I expected GTA IV to go by the same formula. But if IGN is giving this game a 10, there's better be some sh*t in that game that's never been introduced in any game before. I already knew that review was more full of sh*t than a colostomy bag when it said the story was "Oscar worthy". A GTA game with an "Oscar-worthy" story? GTFOH! The fact that this game was even put in the same light as Ocarina of Time was the final straw.
I still anticipate the game, but if I were to say this game wasn't overrated or overhyped, I'd be lying my ass off. I do not expect this game to be a 10, I do not expect it to have an "Oscar-worthy" story (MGS4 would get that more than this game, guaranteed) and I sure as hell don't expect it to have the aura that Ocarina of Time had. I usually trust IGN, but I know I don't even need to put their theory to the test to know that it's dead f*cking wrong.
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I don't like GTA but there's something about the new one that has me really interested.
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And the fact that you say GTA IV is the same thing again and then mention a Zelda game just baffles me. I don't know what you mean by 'aura'. If you mean 'atmosphere' then I think GTA IV will have it in oodles as do games like Bioshock. But a Zelda game? Shee-iiiiit! |
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BTW Peanut, how did you like "Chains of Olympus"? I thought that it was a little underwhelming (also too short and too easy on Spartan mode) but I enjoyed it quite a lot. The gauntlet of Zeus was pretty sweet, too.
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What does that have to do with anything?
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Sorry, this is long but I hope I've made some interesting points or given you food for thought at least: I would agree with you on this 'aura' around Zelda but only because it was the first 3D iteration I played. Nothing else really stood out beyond that. If I'd played previous versions I'm sure I'd recognise that I was doing the same things again: going through dungeons, solving puzzles, rescuing Zelda from Ganondorf. The closest comparison would be the jump from the top-down GTA into 3D GTA. But in a GTA game I always had a reason to do a mission, a drive to keep playing, instead of just 'rescue the princess/beat big bad guy'. I came away feeling I'd achieved something by seeing the story to its end. Now, I couldn't say a GTA game has a better story than an MGS game (MGS1 particularly) but that is more to do with game design. GTA is free-roaming, the missions are spread out; whereas MGS1 was a straight-ahead plotline with only one possible variation. Not to mention that GTA games borrow heavily from established film tropes or actual films (the ending to Vice City anyone?) But in the GTA universe there have been some brilliant characters, some very memorable moments and some fantastic writing. The only reason you remember Zelda characters is because they're the same in every game. Now taking into account your point is that GTA IV won't have that new and special 'aura' around it I'd be willing to disagree. OoT was just a 3D version of any Zelda game with a few new tricks, as the series continues to be. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying this is a bad thing and I'm not trying to start a fight. Fact is: people love Zelda. Story isn't always important to a game but it is a big part of making a game memorable. You only have to look at fans of FFFVII, Chrono Trigger, Deus Ex or Bioshock (to name just a few) to see that. The way I see it is that generally different elements of a game appeal to creating certain memories. If you're playing single-player then the story becomes very important because that is what's needed to draw you in, to keep you playing. An RPG with a crappy story very quickly gets dropped as might an FPS which becomes monotonous. A good FPS usually seems to only stand out if it has a good story. While playing co-op campaign on Halo 2, I didn't really take much note of the story because the amazing experience was more to do with playing with a friend. I'm sure Peanut could attest to many fun experiences with Halo 3's online and offline multiplayer. I would say with OoT it was more the novelty factor than anything that made it memorable since you did not sing the praises of following games as nothing new really came of them. I would also factor in the 'shared experience' as in the event of a game. Much like a film that 'everyone has to see' you remember it because that's what everyone talked about and I think OoT came in a time when there wasn't anything else like it on N64. My examples are more recent Final Fantasy games; looking back, I didn't really enjoy them but I was playing because all my friends were. Round off my main point is that GTA IV runs on a completely new engine, the experience of exploring a living, breathing city has been vastly improved and it sounds like Rockstar have worked hard to keep the story tighter, more plausible (small case in point: they kept clothing options limited to 'suitable' items) and thus more dramatic. Throw in the multiplayer as well and I think it's a big enough leap to guarantee that everyone will have some sort of memorable experience and come away with a glowing 'aura'. Feel free to disagree if you wish, I just figured I'd make my point clearer. Last edited by raphael_is_cool; 04-28-2008 at 03:28 PM. |
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Look, I'm the first to admit the last couple of Zeldas were sub-par but to say the series hasn't had memorable moments or characters just isn't true.
In any case, GTA has nothing to do with Zelda and no one is doubting that the game itself will be great; it's IGN's clearly bloated and ingenuine review that people are commenting on. The game comes out tomorrow, let's just wait until we can make up our minds, shall we?
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10 from Gamestop. Now I'm slightly disgusted.
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