Metal Gear Solid 4

[poiuytre]

Installing it at the moment so while I wait, I think it's probably a good idea to make a separate thread for it. Wouldn't want to clog the Sony or Latest Purchase thread up with spoilers. Which brings me to the next point...

All spoilers should be marked within this thread. Preferably like this, so you know what you can read and what you shouldn't:
Act 2:

Spoiler:

Hello.

Time to get a drink, some snacks, dim the lights and mute my phone before the install's finished. But before I close off, let us also hold a moment of silence for the couple of European countries that had the game delayed for a week. Their sacrifice ensured that the rest would have more available copies. I salute you, comrades.

[Mecha Cow]

God, I want to get this game so f*cking bad, but I should really wait until my finals are over. Stupid school!

[poiuytre]

Apparently Konami changed their statement about the delays and said it wasn't their fault but the gas prices'.


You are stronger than me, Cow. I have two projects to finish by next week, yet here I am. It's going to sound hypocritical, but I think you're doing the right thing by waiting. No game is worth neglecting your education for except maybe a PS3 remake of Final Fantasy 7.

The game is a blast so far tho. The only thing I'm not liking is how they made men's buttocks even more detailed. The game keeps trying to point your attention to it. I was hoping they would have toned down the homo stuff this generation. It doesn't even make any sense either. No fabric works like that, Kojipro. Please stop doing it.

::edit::
Finished Act 1. I kinda wish I chose a harder difficulty setting. Solid Normal feels a little too easy and I seem to be progressing more quickly than I'd like, eventho I'm taking my time. Overall act 1 is already the best part of the entire MGS series. I hope the next acts can match or exceed it!

[OA]

Man, this is the ONE game that makes me consider getting a PS3. Any chance this making it to the 360 or is this defin. an exclusive?

[Peanut]

It's weird that it kinda feels so shooter heavy. It's fun still pretty fun, though. The multiple installs are kinda...weird. That's for sure. The game looks f*cking amazing, though.

Also, I kinda feel like the westernization of the game is a shame. How many third-person-shooters do we already get here in North America? Now the shooting in Metal Gear feels just like every other TPS, with the exception that the hit-detection isn't so hot.

[Ninjinister]

(Sets up the waiting-for-spoilers camp)

[poiuytre]

Completed in 16 hours.
Rank: Eagle

Feels kinda on the short side but I'm going to start replaying on a harder difficulty setting and try to collect the extras. It started off amazing but it kinda went "downhill" from there, which is still really good, mind you. Act 1 > the rest of the MGS series, but considering the whole package, it's probably more like MGS2 > MGS1 > MGSPO > MGSA2 > MGS3 > MGS4 > MGSA > MGSTS.

Spoiler:

Wow, retcon much, Kojipro? I found the story to be wonderful and the best in the series until I stopped and thought about it. Some things are don't make no sense at all.

Ocelot was a faking the Liquid possession? He was a quadruple agent? When you think about it, it makes MGS2 feel pointless except for a few small side stories that no-one really cares about.

As much as I'd love it to be different, the game is purely fan service and can't stand on its own like the previous PS1/2/P games. Sure, it's the game every Metal Gear fan has been asking for, but it's times like this that illustrate that fans don't really know what's good for them. I wouldn't have minded a couple of mysteries left unsolved instead of forced references, cameos and explanations.

I really loved Akiba and Sunny. Easily some of the best characters in the franchise. Seeing as this is Snake's last game, I hope they will continue the Metal Gear series with Johnny.

Overall I'd give it a 9.6/10.

[Peanut]

I dunno how to do anything but lol at half of the above post.

ANYWAYS, I'm on chapter 4 of the game, and it's fantastic. I'm actually enjoying the later parts of the game more than the beginning, and I have to say yet again, the westernization of Metal Gear hasn't really added anything to the experience, and in some cases, I really think it detracts.

[Dr. Doom]

I haven't read anythign posted in here (nor do I intend to), but the nightmare will soon be over. My friend Dave broke down and bought a PS3, and he's almost done with the game, so he's gonna let me borrow it. This problem resolved itself much quicker than I thought it would.

[Peanut]

There aren't any spoilers in here?

[Peanut]

So, I'm pretty f*cking pissed off. I fought through a lot of the last act, and right at a big moment, my power flickers for about 2 seconds, shutting off my F*CKING PS3, and of course, since MGS4 was apparently still designed back in 1998, there are no such things as auto-save checkpoints that allow you to continue from a certain point should something go awry. So I ended up all the f*cking way back at the beginning of the stupid f*cking act, the beginning of which is really god damn annoying. In all my rage, I keep trying to fly through it, having already beaten that section, but keep getting killed, so I smash the f*ck out of my Sixaxis. PS3 controllers are weak as ****, one toss and the entire top piece by the triggers snapped off. Another toss and the thing doesn't work anymore.

I hate bad old game design. Also, flickering power has pissed me off far too often already this summer.

[Peanut]

Ending is awful. I feel robbed.

[The Stryker]

Did you see the scene during the credits?

[Peanut]

Yes? If you mean the one with

Spoiler:

Big Boss

then yes. It was f*cking trash.

[Brodie]

Were there long ass cut scenes?

[The Stryker]

Originally Posted by Peanut

Yes? If you mean the one with

Spoiler:

Big Boss

then yes. It was f*cking trash.

Ahh alright, I liked the ending alright but I can see how some would hate it.

[Krang]

Originally Posted by Peanut

Also, flickering power has pissed me off far too often already this summer.

If that happens regularly, getting one of these for your consoles would help.

[Ninjinister]

Originally Posted by Peanut

Yes? If you mean the one with

Spoiler:

Big Boss

then yes. It was f*cking trash.

I thought that ending was fitting for the series. F7ck that I loved it.

[poiuytre]

Ending Spoiler

Spoiler:

As much as I like Big Boss, I thought the scene was kinda lame and cheapens the character and MGS deaths in general. He just appeared alive looking brand-spanking new, went over a checklist of unexplained plots and died again. I think I would have liked it better if there was no scene after the credits.

[Peanut]

Originally Posted by Krang

If that happens regularly, getting one of these for your consoles would help.

I have one, but it seldom works. I don't know what's wrong with it. I'll have to look into it.

Originally Posted by poiuytre

Ending Spoiler

Spoiler:

As much as I like Big Boss, I thought the scene was kinda lame and cheapens the character and MGS deaths in general. He just appeared alive looking brand-spanking new, went over a checklist of unexplained plots and died again. I think I would have liked it better if there was no scene after the credits.

Man, you and I finally agree on something. That's exactly how I felt about it. It totally takes away from the way the gameplay ends, and the things that happen prior to it. And

Spoiler:

I REALLY feel like it takes away from the feeling that this was Snake's game, Snake's goodbye. We already had a huge emotional climax with Big Boss in MGS3, and then they decide to do it again, and leave the end of Snake's story wide open? There was no closure with his character. We just got even further closure on Big Boss, something that didn't need to be done at all.

I should say that I still think the game was f*cking fantastic for what went on in it, in particular I loved...

Spoiler:

The surprises they throw at you in terms of gameplay. That little MGS1 throwback prior to revisiting Shadow Moses Island, the Metal Gear fight, the MGS3-esque motorcycle chase with EVA, Snake crawling his way through the microwaves while insane sh*t went down on the top screen, and the entire end battle against Liquid Snake/Ocelot/Liquid Ocelot was so mind blowing. The cinematic nature of it, the music, the throwback health meters. It was f*cking amazing. Greatest boss fight ever?

In terms of what I thought was sh*tty, I'd have to say that

Spoiler:

having those retarded looking arm things as the only enemies throughout all of Shadow Moses was a bad decision. Imagine how it would feel to play through that section of the game while facing actual guards again? It would have been terrific. Also, nanomachines pretty much became the MGS version of fairy dust. They're used to explain everything that seemed like it couldn't possibly have a normal (as far as Metal Gear goes) answer.