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NameGoesHere1066 · 07-22-2008, 11:45 PM

I wonder if the turtles believe in life after death or in encountering some form of judgement when they die? Was any of that ever touched on in the comics, I can't remember excpet for this issue I think about Valhala or what ever.

Or for that matter I wonder if April or Casey have any religous beliefs that they practice? Each of them seemed pretty accepting of the turtles being chemically induced and not one of "God's creations".

**Krang** · 07-23-2008, 02:03 AM

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*Raph's Girl* · 07-23-2008, 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by NameGoesHere1066

Or for that matter I wonder if April or Casey have any religous beliefs that they practice? Each of them seemed pretty accepting of the turtles being chemically induced and not one of "God's creations".

Well religion isn't really touched upon in the Mirage books but in Tales of the TMNT 15 when Shadow visited where Gabrielle's ashes were spread she wondered if her mom was Christian and put a cross on the spot.

We'll probably find out what religion Casey and April are in the upcoming season of the toon tho since they're apperantly getting married.

Evenstar227 · 07-23-2008, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by NameGoesHere1066

I wonder if the turtles believe in life after death or in encountering some form of judgement when they die? Was any of that ever touched on in the comics, I can't remember excpet for this issue I think about Valhala or what ever.

Or for that matter I wonder if April or Casey have any religous beliefs that they practice? Each of them seemed pretty accepting of the turtles being chemically induced and not one of "God's creations".

I would say the Turtles are as much one of God's creations as a person with say, a prosthetic limb, or artificial knee or something. If you believe turtles were created by God, just b/c they got hit with some ooze doesn't change that aspect. Yeah, they've been altered outside of normal parameters, but still. Now, if you wanted to debate souls, that's a whole 'nother terrarium of turtles.

*Sage Ninja* · 07-23-2008, 09:55 AM

the turtles definately inherented human souls along with human thought and conscienceness. The turtles are definately human where it counts most even if they started out as just animals with animal souls (and animals do have souls, just not human ones) They are very far removed from the tiny animals they started off from. The have a conscience that bothers them when they do something wrong and reservations; these are all signs that they have a human soul with the freedom of mind and will to choose to eighther do good or do bad. Only humans have this aspect to them and animals don't have the this conscienceness because they act out of survival and instinct.

Jelly Bean · 02-02-2009, 02:12 PM

hey question. How do think a priest or a Rabbi, or some other religious figure would react if they interacted with one of the turtles. How do you think the turtles would react?

Do you think the turtles would be respectful of them or not? Like if they where confronted on what the hell they where?

~~Leo656~~ · 02-02-2009, 02:48 PM

This sounds like the set-up to a joke...

"A priest, a rabbi, and Michelangelo walk into a bar..."

That would depend on the situation, I think. In real life people are pretty freaked out every time they see anything unusual, so if it were "real life" only the most enlightened of people would treat the Turtles as anything but hostile, sadly. The Turtles, however, always try to show everyone the utmost respect, regardless of beliefs, because that's what I think Splinter would want them to be like.

And if Grant Morrison scripted the meeting they'd all hold hands, sip peyote and go on some cosmic vision quest in search for truth, enlightenment, the one true god and the nature of all things, only to find that the meaning of existence is simply to exist and all things are as they were meant to be, for how else could things be?

He's deep, that Grant Morrison...

*Buslady* · 02-02-2009, 04:10 PM

oh hell the real religious wackos would be callin them heathens and demons and creatures from the pit...blah blahblah...or try to excorcise them or some baloney

*Kendamu* · 02-02-2009, 08:51 PM

In the early issues of the comics, the Turtles were discovered in a meditative trance with their hands flded in a way meant to mimic Kuji-In, a mudra-based meditation system that comes from Mikkyo Buddhism. Such things are generally considered very closely related to Ninjutsu or, at the very least, Ninja themselves as I've never seen a historical Ninja text that went over the spiritual stuff. Usually the texts just go over the technical aspects of Ninjutsu.

So, it might be safe to say that the Turtles, at least in the early days of the comics, are or were Buddhists. Sure, Buddhism is a philosophy/religion that holds pacifism very highly, but it was also said that because of a warrior's life, such a philosophy was most needed by them in order to come to grips with all the killing that they've witnessed and taken part in.

*Original TMNT Cartoon Fan* · 02-03-2009, 08:57 AM

I would like to see Archie Donatello dealing more with when the Japanese religion dudes and dudettes (gods, demon) appeared.

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Sage Ninja Band of the Hawk Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: USA Posts: 3,925	the turtles definately inherented human souls along with human thought and conscienceness. The turtles are definately human where it counts most even if they started out as just animals with animal souls (and animals do have souls, just not human ones) They are very far removed from the tiny animals they started off from. The have a conscience that bothers them when they do something wrong and reservations; these are all signs that they have a human soul with the freedom of mind and will to choose to eighther do good or do bad. Only humans have this aspect to them and animals don't have the this conscienceness because they act out of survival and instinct. __________________ Cassandra: You won't fight me, but will you fight--for him! Cassandra's Revenge ~Tangled the Series ________________________________ http://frankviola.org/2012/01/30/godsviewofawoman/ _______________________________ http://nox-artemis.tumblr.com/post/4...k-and-feminism

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Buslady WingsOfDarkness! Perkele! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In 7803... Posts: 4,366	oh hell the real religious wackos would be callin them heathens and demons and creatures from the pit...blah blahblah...or try to excorcise them or some baloney __________________

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Original TMNT Cartoon Fan Overlord Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Sweden Posts: 10,478	Archie Donatello I would like to see Archie Donatello dealing more with when the Japanese religion dudes and dudettes (gods, demon) appeared.

02-02-2009, 02:48 PM	#67
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	This sounds like the set-up to a joke... "A priest, a rabbi, and Michelangelo walk into a bar..." That would depend on the situation, I think. In real life people are pretty freaked out every time they see anything unusual, so if it were "real life" only the most enlightened of people would treat the Turtles as anything but hostile, sadly. The Turtles, however, always try to show everyone the utmost respect, regardless of beliefs, because that's what I think Splinter would want them to be like. And if Grant Morrison scripted the meeting they'd all hold hands, sip peyote and go on some cosmic vision quest in search for truth, enlightenment, the one true god and the nature of all things, only to find that the meaning of existence is simply to exist and all things are as they were meant to be, for how else could things be? He's deep, that Grant Morrison...

02-02-2009, 08:51 PM	#69
Kendamu Sewerhead Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 2,890	In the early issues of the comics, the Turtles were discovered in a meditative trance with their hands flded in a way meant to mimic Kuji-In, a mudra-based meditation system that comes from Mikkyo Buddhism. Such things are generally considered very closely related to Ninjutsu or, at the very least, Ninja themselves as I've never seen a historical Ninja text that went over the spiritual stuff. Usually the texts just go over the technical aspects of Ninjutsu. So, it might be safe to say that the Turtles, at least in the early days of the comics, are or were Buddhists. Sure, Buddhism is a philosophy/religion that holds pacifism very highly, but it was also said that because of a warrior's life, such a philosophy was most needed by them in order to come to grips with all the killing that they've witnessed and taken part in.