Anyone still prefer the classic series? - Page 2

*sdp* · 07-29-2008, 11:15 AM

Put me in for "both" as well.
The OT has a certain charm about the show that makes it very watchable even today. The OT is not just a dumbed down version of the turtles, it's its own thing. Compare something like the old Batman cartoons by Filmation to BatmanTAS or even The Batman and they are just a pain to watch since its a "dumbed down" version and there are much better alternatives, however you cant say that with TMNT. Even though the new show is BTAS in terms of quality it doesn't take anything from the old show, which just shows how great the OT is.

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Originally Posted by Krang

I still think that's a very poor (not to mention overused) comparison.

Exactly, the OT is not campy. I've used Adam West Batman as an example before but as an example that a franchise can have different interpretations, Batman can work as both his campy self and as a dark character and both have fans. TMNT is the same way, just because one version is less serious it doesn't take away from it.

The analogy works like that but it doesn't work if you say the OT is like the 60s batman show because its not.

*Drtooth* · 07-29-2008, 02:11 PM

Though I will say, the low point of TMNT 2k3 (not counting FF, since it's too easy) is a lot easier to take than "Mutegen Monster." That one was plauged by poor writing and overuse of Cow/Cowabunga/Dude ranch puns.

*Spitfire* · 07-29-2008, 02:17 PM

The lowest point of 2K3 "Father's and Sons" is so insanely horrid I can't bare to watch it. However the low points of the old toon are more frequent and sometimes more annoying. I can't decide what's worse, "Adventures In Turtle Sitting" or "Father's and Sons". Baby turtle episodes need to burn in hell along with the writers of them.

Personally I like the old series the most still. Not that I don't like 2K3 but after watching both a lot there's just more for me to like in the old show. The humor for one, the old series is actually funny and hardly takes itself seriously. Though when it did I still liked it quite a bit. I felt the characters had better chemistry as well.

Evenstar227 · 07-29-2008, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by KROW

I like both of them equally. Where one has the comical charm and colorful texture, the other has a relative semblance to the original comic book that made them great. Both have their strengths and weaknesses. The 80s toon was light, whimsy, and just plain fun without the worry of continuity or story. 2K3, though not as flamboyant in its look and attitude, focused more on writing and turned up the action.

I like both for what they are, and what they are not.

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Originally Posted by Jester

Exactly. Depends on my mood, but I love both TMNT shows for totally diffrent reasons.

Dammit. I was gonna quote KROW, but now I can't b/c Jester did. That's how I feel, though.

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Originally Posted by †Dr.Killpatients†

I like the OT better. NT contains too much violence. In my opinion.

Anyone else see the irony in this? ^_^

*ToTheNines* · 07-29-2008, 03:09 PM

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Anyone else see the irony in this? ^_^

I did, but if I responded I would have had to call him a sissy... oops.

*Drtooth* · 07-29-2008, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Spitfire

The lowest point of 2K3 "Father's and Sons" is so insanely horrid I can't bare to watch it.

I thought it was all those lousy episodes where the turtles had to fight random aliens, and pretty much played like guest stars in their own show... you know, the first part of season 4.

But I give OT credit. it had a much better clip show episode. The Cur Li manuver made sitting through the first 5 episodes again worth it.

*Kendamu* · 07-29-2008, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Krang

I still think that's a very poor (not to mention overused) comparison.

Its overused because its true. Both the 1960s Batman series and the OT are silly, lighthearted, and corny compared to their source material counterparts. Both are very loose adaptions of comics. Both launched their respective properties into mainstream pop-culture. Both are looked down upon when it comes to trying to get their respective properties to be looked upon in a more serious light.

So, even if you don't like the comparison, its true. I don't mean it in an insulting way, either. I don't even mean it as being a bad thing! I just mean it as being the truth.

*MrPliggins* · 07-29-2008, 06:15 PM

I prefer the new to the old. Probably because I watched the hell out of the old series when I was a kid. I never have the urge to watch it anymore.

*Hero* · 07-29-2008, 07:14 PM

I shrug off the old toon myself. It has aged so badly. Like with Next Mutation I would not show any non-TMNT fans that series. 2K3 and Fast Forward all the way for me.

===HERO

*Tinuvielsdreams* · 07-29-2008, 07:27 PM

The OT is a fun series and has a special place in my heart and the NT has some great animation and represents turtles in a way I really like. I wouldn't say I prefer watching one over the other, I am glad to have both

Darth Shredder · 07-29-2008, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Hero

I shrug off the old toon myself. It has aged so badly. Like with Next Mutation I would not show any non-TMNT fans that series. 2K3 and Fast Forward all the way for me.

===HERO

Fast Forward didn't have the TMNT essence for me. It was too gimmicky and cheap.

~~AquaParade~~ · 07-29-2008, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Goongasnootch

It depends on what point in the series you're talking about. For example, I prefer the first season of the OT over everything else in terms of animated TMNT. However, if I were given the choice between, say, Season 6 of the OT and Season 2 of 2k3, I'd definitely choose 2k3.

Exactly how I feel. Season one just had a special something for me. It felt so timeless, but the other ot seasons can't hold my interest these days. The new toon is more complex and deep, and I love it, but it doesn't have the classic feel of the old show for me.

*Buslady* · 07-29-2008, 09:26 PM

Not I. I do not include that as "real" TMNT...it's just some kiddie show. I used to watch it back then but today it's ...eh...

*waits for the tomatoes and rotten mangoes to be chucked*

Darth Shredder · 07-29-2008, 11:02 PM

All opinions are welcomed, Buslady.

Your Turtles universe would be a very dry and uninteresting place to me, but then again, so would this world if everyone thought exactly like I did.

turkishproverb · 07-29-2008, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Goongasnootch

Its overused because its true. Both the 1960s Batman series and the OT are silly, lighthearted, and corny compared to their source material counterparts. Both are very loose adaptions of comics. Both launched their respective properties into mainstream pop-culture. Both are looked down upon when it comes to trying to get their respective properties to be looked upon in a more serious light.

So, even if you don't like the comparison, its true. I don't mean it in an insulting way, either. I don't even mean it as being a bad thing! I just mean it as being the truth.

But you used the term Campy, which has it's own connotations that don't really suit OT, for all of OT's problems.

*Kendamu* · 07-29-2008, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by turkishproverb

But you used the term Campy, which has it's own connotations that don't really suit OT, for all of OT's problems.

And its true. Its not like the OT wasn't full of silliness and intentional clichés used for the sake of humor. That's what "campy" is. Its not like "campy" is a bad thing, but I would be a liar to say that the OT had little or no camp in it.

I think that's the problem. People think I mean something bad by the word "campy" when I don't. In all reality, "camp" is a form of sophisticated amusement that requires a decent understanding of the serious things being "camped up" or parodied before you can even really get the jokes being told.

turkishproverb · 07-29-2008, 11:38 PM

And I "meant" that you didn't use campy right. Not that your other terms were improperly used.

*Kendamu* · 07-29-2008, 11:53 PM

What're you talking about?

http://www.google.com/search?q=define%3Acamp%2Fcampy

I used "campy" right.

TMNT-Leonardo · 07-29-2008, 11:59 PM

I haven't really been keeping track of the New Series that much, but I still prefer the original series because of the charm it has. I don't really find it campy, because there are tons of other things that actually are campy.

*Kendamu* · 07-30-2008, 12:20 AM

Apparently, as long as "campy" is considered an insulting term, nobody's going to agree with me. So I guess I'l just have to spell it out everytime and just say, "Oh yeah, I liked the OT because it often contained a form of comedic parody where the cliché conventions of a dramatic form like adventure are deliberately exaggerated to the point of absurdity. Because of this, I found it funny and exciting simultaneously!"

07-29-2008, 02:11 PM	#22
Drtooth Foot Elite Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 4,439	Though I will say, the low point of TMNT 2k3 (not counting FF, since it's too easy) is a lot easier to take than "Mutegen Monster." That one was plauged by poor writing and overuse of Cow/Cowabunga/Dude ranch puns. __________________ [Insert mildly amusing banner here]

07-29-2008, 02:17 PM	#23
Spitfire Writer • Director Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 12,035	The lowest point of 2K3 "Father's and Sons" is so insanely horrid I can't bare to watch it. However the low points of the old toon are more frequent and sometimes more annoying. I can't decide what's worse, "Adventures In Turtle Sitting" or "Father's and Sons". Baby turtle episodes need to burn in hell along with the writers of them. Personally I like the old series the most still. Not that I don't like 2K3 but after watching both a lot there's just more for me to like in the old show. The humor for one, the old series is actually funny and hardly takes itself seriously. Though when it did I still liked it quite a bit. I felt the characters had better chemistry as well. __________________ Check out my online portfolio http://www.christopherpelletier.com/

07-29-2008, 07:14 PM	#29
Hero British Bloke Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bristol, UK Posts: 2,298	I shrug off the old toon myself. It has aged so badly. Like with Next Mutation I would not show any non-TMNT fans that series. 2K3 and Fast Forward all the way for me. ===HERO __________________ Go Green Machine My Facebook -My Tumblr - My Art - Figured 0ut - My Awesome Instagram

07-29-2008, 09:26 PM	#33
Buslady WingsOfDarkness! Perkele! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In 7803... Posts: 4,366	Not I. I do not include that as "real" TMNT...it's just some kiddie show. I used to watch it back then but today it's ...eh... waits for the tomatoes and rotten mangoes to be chucked __________________ Last edited by Buslady; 07-29-2008 at 09:35 PM.

07-29-2008, 11:59 PM	#39
TMNT-Leonardo Hench Mutant Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Earth Posts: 265	I haven't really been keeping track of the New Series that much, but I still prefer the original series because of the charm it has. I don't really find it campy, because there are tons of other things that actually are campy. __________________ Turtle Power!

07-29-2008, 06:15 PM	#28
MrPliggins Foot Elite Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 3,050	I prefer the new to the old. Probably because I watched the hell out of the old series when I was a kid. I never have the urge to watch it anymore.

07-29-2008, 07:27 PM	#30
Tinuvielsdreams Nothing without passion Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 1,722	The OT is a fun series and has a special place in my heart and the NT has some great animation and represents turtles in a way I really like. I wouldn't say I prefer watching one over the other, I am glad to have both

07-29-2008, 11:02 PM	#34
Darth Shredder Foot Soldier Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Somewhere far away. Posts: 237	All opinions are welcomed, Buslady. Your Turtles universe would be a very dry and uninteresting place to me, but then again, so would this world if everyone thought exactly like I did.

07-29-2008, 11:53 PM	#38
Kendamu Sewerhead Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 2,890	What're you talking about? http://www.google.com/search?q=define%3Acamp%2Fcampy I used "campy" right.

07-30-2008, 12:20 AM	#40
Kendamu Sewerhead Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 2,890	Apparently, as long as "campy" is considered an insulting term, nobody's going to agree with me. So I guess I'l just have to spell it out everytime and just say, "Oh yeah, I liked the OT because it often contained a form of comedic parody where the cliché conventions of a dramatic form like adventure are deliberately exaggerated to the point of absurdity. Because of this, I found it funny and exciting simultaneously!"