Would You Like to See a CaW TPB? - Page 2

*Galactus* · 08-10-2008, 06:09 PM

well it supposedly was on the cards at one point http://www.planetracers.com/blast/prblast0025.html . I don't think anyone would seriously turn one down.

*ToTheNines* · 08-10-2008, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Goongasnootch

I never said, "Don't get the new one." What I said was somethnig along the lines of, "Find the old one because it has more in it." I didn't say anything like, "Don't get the new one because its stupid and Peter Laird is a tool. You're no better than poop if you get it."

But, as for finding an old one, you can't just do one search and be like, "Well, now we know that finding it is impossible." Sometimes you have to do multiple searches to find it. Sometimes it hsows up in lots. Sometimes you'll find it but it'll be way too expensive. That's the nature of finding hard-to-find comics... such as the Future Shark trilogy... grr...

Well, I quoted Turkish aswell, and he insisted that I don't buy it. Anyways, I'll keep trying.

*Roseangelo* · 08-10-2008, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines

Well, I quoted Turkish aswell, and he insisted that I don't buy it. Anyways, I'll keep trying.

There isn't even any guarantee that the reprint TPB will actually come out next year. In order for that to happen Peter Laird will have to give up motorcycles for a few months or he'll have to concede and reprint the books in their original form. I wouldn't bet any amount of money on either of those happening.

Be persistent and find the original. Or buy all of the books separately. If you're not concerned about first prints, all of them are fairly easy and cheap to round up.

*ToTheNines* · 08-10-2008, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Roseangelo

There isn't even any guarantee that the reprint TPB will actually come out next year. In order for that to happen Peter Laird will have to give up motorcycles for a few months or he'll have to concede and reprint the books in their original form. I wouldn't bet any amount of money on either of those happening.

Be persistent and find the original. Or buy all of the books separately. If you're not concerned about first prints, all of them are fairly easy and cheap to round up.

Damn, I forgot about that. I'm gonna keep looking for the original collection then.

turkishproverb · 08-10-2008, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines

Why not get the reprint? ninjaturtles.com dosen't have it for sale, and it's not on amazon. Can't seem to find it on ebay either.

amazon has it, it just costs alot.

and as for the reason not, it's a horrible redo, and Peter laird commits fraud every time he claims he can't reprint issue 8 for legal reasons.

*Galactus* · 08-10-2008, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by turkishproverb

Peter laird commits fraud every time he claims he can't reprint issue 8 for legal reasons.

Back in the day didn't Sim inform Mirage that he felt the issue had been reprinted too many times and told the to stop. (Even though Laird did pay him for his work on the book).

Sure Sim may currently say he's okay with it being reprinted now or being in a trade but I can understand Laird having a bad feelings about using it as well as the worry that Sim may well have another change of heart.

Say what you will about about the redoing lettering and toning of the early issues and I'd probably agree but I can't blame anyone at Mirage for having mixed feelings about Cerebus's inclusion.

turkishproverb · 08-10-2008, 11:15 PM

1: According to Sim, Laird suggested they end the print of the single issue, and he agreed to.

2: Sim's word in print giving up any ownership of the issue and any claim to it is another issue, and legally is the equivilant of a signed contract.

The closest Sim has ever come to contradicting on this was saying that laird would never have let him print the issue in "the Cerebus Misscelany" (he also complained that Todd Macfarlane woudln't let him put Spawn 10 in there) and this was AFTER giving up ownership, and it would therefore give him no legal ground. Especially since he admitted to giving up ownership in the comment.

*Roseangelo* · 08-10-2008, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by turkishproverb

The closest Sim has ever come to contradicting on this was saying that laird would never have let him print the issue in "the Cerebus Misscelany" (he also complained that Todd Macfarlane woudln't let him put Spawn 10 in there) and this was AFTER giving up ownership, and it would therefore give him no legal ground. Especially since he admitted to giving up ownership in the comment.

This bit is news to me. What's the source on it?

*Galactus* · 08-10-2008, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by turkishproverb

The closest Sim has ever come to contradicting on this was saying that laird would never have let him print the issue in "the Cerebus Misscelany" (he also complained that Todd Macfarlane woudln't let him put Spawn 10 in there) and this was AFTER giving up ownership, and it would therefore give him no legal ground. Especially since he admitted to giving up ownership in the comment.

I've only read of Sim saying that once and if we're thinking of the same comment then Sim was questioning whether Laird and McFarlane would allow him. The tone suggested to me that he felt they wouldn't but didn't state that that they wouldn't allow him...

"I wouldn't be looking for the CEREBUS MISCELLANY anytime soon. There are too many loose ends. Should it include the complete Turtles/Cerebus crossover? Should it include the Spawn/Cerebus crossover? Would Pete Laird and Todd McFarlane be willing to give permission for that? Or Mark Bode with MIAMI MICE? Do I reprint the entire story for the sake of the one or two Cerebus panels?"

turkishproverb · 08-11-2008, 01:10 AM

Since then, he's gone on to specify that He is fairly confident both would refuse permission, and that fighting them legally would be futile because both have alot of money, and that laird has Sim giving up ownership on record.. I'll try to find the source, but I don't make a point of cataloguing these things URL's and such.

Furthermore, Laird has been made aware of Sim giving up ownership, so he can't even pleade ignorance.

found this quote by Sim:

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No, as far as I know Pete just doesn't want Cerebus in there and since he has absolute control over the Turtles, it's his call to make. I don't think it's a huge deal. As Kevin pointed out between the original comic book and the First Comics reprint there's probably over 100,000 copies in circulation. I've always held that any artist or writer can reprint anything that they worked on so obviously I'd like to have the original duo-shaded Kevin Eastman story with my Cerebus pictures in the CEREBUS MISCELLANY b&w collection, but I also know better than to go head to head with Pete's a) millions and cool.gif lawyers. Same as with SPAWN 10. I'd like to reprint it in black and white in CEREBUS MISCELLANY and (possibly) redraw the Cerebuses. But unless Todd wants that happen that isn't going to happen no matter what foundatons I choose to conduct my own business on.

here

It's not the quote I was thinking of, but it's a start.

*Mr._Mutant_Man* · 08-11-2008, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Roseangelo

There isn't even any guarantee that the reprint TPB will actually come out next year. In order for that to happen Peter Laird will have to give up motorcycles for a few months or he'll have to concede and reprint the books in their original form. I wouldn't bet any amount of money on either of those happening.

Be persistent and find the original. Or buy all of the books separately. If you're not concerned about first prints, all of them are fairly easy and cheap to round up.

Are you talking about the single issues? There are a few that seem to be a lot harder to find than others. Issue 4 is one that I can't seem to find.

If Laird can't get around to working on the issues, then he should just reprint them as is. Is messing around with the original issues really more important than capitalizing on the 25th anniversary?

*Roseangelo* · 08-11-2008, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr._Mutant_Man

Are you talking about the single issues? There are a few that seem to be a lot harder to find than others. Issue 4 is one that I can't seem to find.

Well, in about two minutes I found three of them on eBay and Mile High has it in stock in several different grades.

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If Laird can't get around to working on the issues, then he should just reprint them as is. Is messing around with the original issues really more important than capitalizing on the 25th anniversary?

Probably. Because if it wasn't, he would have been smart and capitalized on the release of the movie last year.

*Spitfire* · 08-12-2008, 01:28 AM

There's trades already out of everything. Almost all of them but 1 and 7 is on the official site I just bought them for super cheap. Also all the first issues are out in color as well and much easier to find then the big trade that collects the first 15 issues of the series.

*Kendamu* · 08-12-2008, 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Spitfire

There's trades already out of everything. Almost all of them but 1 and 7 is on the official site I just bought them for super cheap. Also all the first issues are out in color as well and much easier to find then the big trade that collects the first 15 issues of the series.

Yeah, but there's no CaW trade.

tilallr1 · 08-13-2008, 12:14 PM

This is a no brainer. Every Turtle comic book fan will buy it.

*Scandia* · 08-13-2008, 04:34 PM

Yes please! CAW comics are hard to find. I can only imagine how well a CAW TPB will sell.

CJStyles · 08-13-2008, 05:06 PM

Id so want a CAW in my colllection

cMac44111 · 08-13-2008, 10:18 PM

I would like a CaW TPB too.

*Kendamu* · 08-14-2008, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by tilallr1

This is a no brainer. Every Turtle comic book fan will buy it.

Yeah. I know. I'm mainly made this thread to show Mirage (after hearing official word on the idea) that there is a market for this and that it should be done.

*Tinuvielsdreams* · 08-14-2008, 02:43 PM

I also meant to comment on this before but I would definitely get a CaW TPB simply because I love that story arch and yes they are hard to find so I would like to retire all my singles from being read. I had them all except for #50 (aka city at war part 1) for about years, I happened to find #50 at a random and very small comic convention in Cherry Hill NJ. I was thrilled I seriously almost hugged the guy selling it.

08-12-2008, 01:28 AM	#33
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08-13-2008, 12:14 PM	#35
tilallr1 Foot Soldier Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Great White North Posts: 119	This is a no brainer. Every Turtle comic book fan will buy it. __________________ TIL ALL ARE ONE

08-13-2008, 04:34 PM	#36
Scandia Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 2,265	Yes please! CAW comics are hard to find. I can only imagine how well a CAW TPB will sell. __________________ Turtles fight with honor!!!

08-13-2008, 05:06 PM	#37
CJStyles Hench Mutant Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 277	Id so want a CAW in my colllection __________________

08-10-2008, 06:09 PM	#21
Galactus Foot Elite Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 3,009	well it supposedly was on the cards at one point http://www.planetracers.com/blast/prblast0025.html . I don't think anyone would seriously turn one down.

08-13-2008, 10:18 PM	#38
cMac44111 Foot Soldier Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: ? Posts: 143	I would like a CaW TPB too.

08-14-2008, 02:43 PM	#40
Tinuvielsdreams Nothing without passion Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 1,722	I also meant to comment on this before but I would definitely get a CaW TPB simply because I love that story arch and yes they are hard to find so I would like to retire all my singles from being read. I had them all except for #50 (aka city at war part 1) for about years, I happened to find #50 at a random and very small comic convention in Cherry Hill NJ. I was thrilled I seriously almost hugged the guy selling it.