New Guns n Roses single released to radio - "Chinese Democracy"

**GK Punk** · 10-22-2008, 09:40 AM

http://www.q1043.com/cc-common/media...WAXQ-FM&TRACK=

Thoughts? I personally love it. I support Axl with this new version of GNR, the guy is a very underrated song writer.This isn't at all what most will expect from GNR, but it's a great track. A little less industrial sounding than "Shackler's Revenge." and sounds improved a million times over the Demo that was leaked back in August.

*Original TMNT Cartoon Fan* · 10-22-2008, 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GK

http://www.q1043.com/cc-common/media...WAXQ-FM&TRACK=

Thoughts? I personally love it. I support Axl with this new version of GNR, the guy is a very underrated song writer.This isn't at all what most will expect from GNR, but it's a great track. A little less industrial sounding than "Shackler's Revenge." and sounds improved a million times over the Demo that was leaked back in August.

I've heard they didn't release a studio album since 1993 or something.

**GK Punk** · 10-22-2008, 09:50 AM

Yeah, the one coming out in November has been in the works since 1994.

CudleyCowlick · 10-22-2008, 11:21 AM

I heard one of the guys on Sirius Satellite radio say something about how if Axl finally finished the Chinese Democracy album anytime before the end of 2008, Taco Bell was going to give everyone in the US a free taco. Must be some serious GNR fans over at Taco Bell Corporate.

*gobo* · 10-22-2008, 12:37 PM

I don't believe it... Where can I hear this? My only access to a radio is in the car.

**GK Punk** · 10-22-2008, 12:39 PM

Did the link above not work? If not, PM Me and I'll send it to you.

*gobo* · 10-22-2008, 12:43 PM

D'ope! >_< How'd I miss that?

...

Not bad. Might take some getting used to.

*KROW* · 10-22-2008, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GK

This isn't at all what most will expect from GNR, but it's a great track.

Agreed. It's an unexpected sound from what old GNR fans are used to hearing, but it's a great piece of music.

*Original TMNT Cartoon Fan* · 10-22-2008, 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GK

Yeah, the one coming out in November has been in the works since 1994.

What has been going on? Did they work on creating a totally new sound that the music world never had seen before or what?

**GK Punk** · 10-22-2008, 05:24 PM

It's a really long story to tell the truth.

After they finished the almost 3 year "Use your illusion" world tour they took a small break. They released "The Spaghetti Incident?" In 1993, which was a collection of cover songs. In 1994, Against the wishes of the band, Axl fired rhythm guitarist Gilby Clarke during the writing stages of new material. Axl then brought his friend Paul Tobias in as the new Rhythm guitarist.

Axl convinced the remaining original members (Slash and Duff Mckagan) to sign over the rights to the name "Guns n Roses" over to him.

In 1996, sick of being dictated to, Slash left the band. He was also unhappy with the musical direction Axl was going. In 1997, Duff and Matt Sorum also quit. Axl hired a new bassist (Tommy Stinson on Bass) and a new drummer to record demos for the album. In 1999 they released a song titled "Oh my god" to The end of days soundtrack.

Over the next few years the Band would continue writing and recording for the album. During this time, the band would become a revolving door of musicians. Everytime one left, Axl would re-record the songs with the new member. (He wanted the album to consist of mostly current members.) this continued until the albums completion in 2007 with the Final, current, Line up.

In the end, Axl had a sound in mind he really wanted to capture on the record and he wasn't 100% happy with it until 2007. Some of the arrangements are more akin to Queen than the old Guns n Roses, while others are a mix of Guns n Roses and Rob Zombie styled industrial music.

SassyGal · 10-23-2008, 12:57 AM

I have to say this is a lot better than I thought it would be. I agree that most people will not be expecting this. I am crossing my fingers that the rest of the album will be just as good and GNR fans will be receptive to it

*Original TMNT Cartoon Fan* · 10-23-2008, 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GK

It's a really long story to tell the truth.

After they finished the almost 3 year "Use your illusion" world tour they took a small break. They released "The Spaghetti Incident?" In 1993, which was a collection of cover songs. In 1994, Against the wishes of the band, Axl fired rhythm guitarist Gilby Clarke during the writing stages of new material. Axl then brought his friend Paul Tobias in as the new Rhythm guitarist.

Axl convinced the remaining original members (Slash and Duff Mckagan) to sign over the rights to the name "Guns n Roses" over to him.

In 1996, sick of being dictated to, Slash left the band. He was also unhappy with the musical direction Axl was going. In 1997, Duff and Matt Sorum also quit. Axl hired a new bassist (Tommy Stinson on Bass) and a new drummer to record demos for the album. In 1999 they released a song titled "Oh my god" to The end of days soundtrack.

Over the next few years the Band would continue writing and recording for the album. During this time, the band would become a revolving door of musicians. Everytime one left, Axl would re-record the songs with the new member. (He wanted the album to consist of mostly current members.) this continued until the albums completion in 2007 with the Final, current, Line up.

In the end, Axl had a sound in mind he really wanted to capture on the record and he wasn't 100% happy with it until 2007. Some of the arrangements are more akin to Queen than the old Guns n Roses, while others are a mix of Guns n Roses and Rob Zombie styled industrial music.

I hate when bands change members like that after breaking through. Better break up after that instead. ABBA and the Beatles just brok up when they didn't want to sing and play together anymore instead of changing some members, that's a part of their mega-greatness.

**GK Punk** · 10-23-2008, 06:41 PM

Yeah, I think everyone would prefer at least the core of the classic GNR lineup (Slash, Duff and Axl) to be in this band. I used to wish he'd release new music under the name of "Axl Rose" instead of "Guns n Roses." I have to admit though, after hearing what he's doing, I'm not going to complain much; I really like where he's going musically.

*Original TMNT Cartoon Fan* · 10-23-2008, 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GK

Yeah, I think everyone would prefer at least the core of the classic GNR lineup (Slash, Duff and Axl) to be in this band. I used to wish he'd release new music under the name of "Axl Rose" instead of "Guns n Roses." I have to admit though, after hearing what he's doing, I'm not going to complain much; I really like where he's going musically.

Yeah, as I said, everybody remember bands like ABBA and the Beatles as the famous groups they were, and not "that declining band who's new lineup nobody knows".

10-22-2008, 09:40 AM	#1
GK Punk I'm your Devil Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,439	New Guns n Roses single released to radio - "Chinese Democracy" http://www.q1043.com/cc-common/media...WAXQ-FM&TRACK= Thoughts? I personally love it. I support Axl with this new version of GNR, the guy is a very underrated song writer.This isn't at all what most will expect from GNR, but it's a great track. A little less industrial sounding than "Shackler's Revenge." and sounds improved a million times over the Demo that was leaked back in August.

10-22-2008, 11:21 AM	#4
CudleyCowlick Stone Warrior Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vermont, USA Posts: 721	I heard one of the guys on Sirius Satellite radio say something about how if Axl finally finished the Chinese Democracy album anytime before the end of 2008, Taco Bell was going to give everyone in the US a free taco. Must be some serious GNR fans over at Taco Bell Corporate. __________________ THE DARKNESS AGE IS RETURN!

10-22-2008, 12:37 PM	#5
gobo Wacky Action Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: on Earth Posts: 12,784	I don't believe it... Where can I hear this? My only access to a radio is in the car. __________________ Live and let live... or go to hell.

10-22-2008, 12:43 PM	#7
gobo Wacky Action Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: on Earth Posts: 12,784	D'ope! >_< How'd I miss that? ... Not bad. Might take some getting used to. __________________ Live and let live... or go to hell.

10-22-2008, 09:50 AM	#3
GK Punk I'm your Devil Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,439	Yeah, the one coming out in November has been in the works since 1994.

10-22-2008, 12:39 PM	#6
GK Punk I'm your Devil Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,439	Did the link above not work? If not, PM Me and I'll send it to you.

10-22-2008, 05:24 PM	#10
GK Punk I'm your Devil Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,439	It's a really long story to tell the truth. After they finished the almost 3 year "Use your illusion" world tour they took a small break. They released "The Spaghetti Incident?" In 1993, which was a collection of cover songs. In 1994, Against the wishes of the band, Axl fired rhythm guitarist Gilby Clarke during the writing stages of new material. Axl then brought his friend Paul Tobias in as the new Rhythm guitarist. Axl convinced the remaining original members (Slash and Duff Mckagan) to sign over the rights to the name "Guns n Roses" over to him. In 1996, sick of being dictated to, Slash left the band. He was also unhappy with the musical direction Axl was going. In 1997, Duff and Matt Sorum also quit. Axl hired a new bassist (Tommy Stinson on Bass) and a new drummer to record demos for the album. In 1999 they released a song titled "Oh my god" to The end of days soundtrack. Over the next few years the Band would continue writing and recording for the album. During this time, the band would become a revolving door of musicians. Everytime one left, Axl would re-record the songs with the new member. (He wanted the album to consist of mostly current members.) this continued until the albums completion in 2007 with the Final, current, Line up. In the end, Axl had a sound in mind he really wanted to capture on the record and he wasn't 100% happy with it until 2007. Some of the arrangements are more akin to Queen than the old Guns n Roses, while others are a mix of Guns n Roses and Rob Zombie styled industrial music.

10-23-2008, 12:57 AM	#11
SassyGal Mad Scientist Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: London, Canada Posts: 1,349	I have to say this is a lot better than I thought it would be. I agree that most people will not be expecting this. I am crossing my fingers that the rest of the album will be just as good and GNR fans will be receptive to it

10-23-2008, 06:41 PM	#13
GK Punk I'm your Devil Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,439	Yeah, I think everyone would prefer at least the core of the classic GNR lineup (Slash, Duff and Axl) to be in this band. I used to wish he'd release new music under the name of "Axl Rose" instead of "Guns n Roses." I have to admit though, after hearing what he's doing, I'm not going to complain much; I really like where he's going musically.