What kinda moron lets his 8 year old son shoot an Uzi?

*Buslady* · 10-28-2008, 09:52 AM

http://news.aol.com/article/boy-8-ki...858x1200720002

Poor kid. The father should be chucked in jail for a long time.
(and yes the gun club too!)

愛 · 10-28-2008, 09:59 AM

Yeah, because the gun club plays no part in this blame game.

CudleyCowlick · 10-28-2008, 10:44 AM

Seriously messed up. I grew up around guns since my dad is a collector and gunsmith, and he was all about teaching me how to use them - but SAFELY and certianly not beyond my abilities.

I was 15 before he let me use an automatic weapon (an AK-47). Even at that age the recoil surprised me but I knew what to expect and I had it well under control. For frick's sake, at 8 I still wasn't allowed to use anything bigger than a pellet gun!

Guns don't kill people, people who let 8 year olds use Uzi's kill people.

*Mecha Cow* · 10-28-2008, 11:37 AM

Retarded, that's all I can say. What the hell did they expect would happen? The age to use a gun is low enough as it; don't give automatic weapons to kids even younger than that, for f*ck's sake.

*Drtooth* · 10-28-2008, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Ai

Yeah, because the gun club plays no part in this blame game.

Couldn't have said it any better. I mean, exactly. What DID they think would happen? I mean, I don't wanna get into any pro or anti gun safety talk, but when you let a kid or anyone under the age of 16 into one of those things, you'd think they'd have a lot more safety precautions. At least a lot more supervision and security.

*Anarky* · 10-28-2008, 01:22 PM

Just to counter the "Oh, that is so stupid"-circlejerk, I'm going to say this:

Job well done. Sure, it cost one kid his life, which is a tragedy beyond understanding, but on the plus side, it took one gunslinging moron off the shooting ranges. And the fewer of those we have, the safer we all live. And by "We" I mean americans, because they're the only ones dumb enough to still think that if they don't have a fully automatic 80mm flak gun dismounted from a gunship under their beds, the british will invade in a heartbeat.

*Sewer Bull* · 10-28-2008, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Anarky

And by "We" I mean americans, because they're the only ones dumb enough to still think that if they don't have a fully automatic 80mm flak gun dismounted from a gunship under their beds, the british will invade in a heartbeat.

They're going to eat you alive here, pal.

Anyway, I just loved the survey on that site:

Quote:

Do you blame anyone for the boy's death?

No
Yes, the father
Yes, the gun instructor
Yes, both
It's too soon to say

Jon · 10-28-2008, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Sewer Bull

They're going to eat you alive here, pal.

And Anarky's the one who previously was moaning about the 'awful state' of the Forum (with the minor problems there were). Now is basically being a problem himself.

*Mecha Cow* · 10-28-2008, 01:59 PM

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Just to counter the "Oh, that is so stupid"-circlejerk

This is you in a nutshell. It is stupid. You're trying too hard.

愛 · 10-28-2008, 02:06 PM

Again, this is why we can't have nice things.

**GK Punk** · 10-28-2008, 02:08 PM

We've done a terrible job raising them, Ai.

*Deathknight* · 10-28-2008, 02:09 PM

God, that's terrible. What a horrible parent.

愛 · 10-28-2008, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by GK

We've done a terrible job raising them, Ai.

You don't think I know that?

*Sewer Bull* · 10-28-2008, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by GK

We've done a terrible job raising them, Ai.

I sometimes think of you as my Drome Dad.

Ai being my Drome Mum.

*Anarky* · 10-28-2008, 03:54 PM

So while you don't want dead kids, you're not in favour of, say, a bit stricter gun laws?

You know, we have pretty lax gun-control over here too. As long as you've got no criminal record, you can get everything up to an army-grade assault-rifle. And that you get under an extended background check only, read you've had to be or still have to be in the military. Uzis? No chance. But you can get shotguns.

I mean, seriously, as a sort of "I don't understand your culture"-question: What are the americans afraid of so that they have to be better armed than most countries' armies? Or what is the reasoning behind "We must have more guns! Bigger guns!"

*Mecha Cow* · 10-28-2008, 04:13 PM

Who are you talking to?

*Anarky* · 10-28-2008, 04:24 PM

Probably not the guy who's from the netherlands.

I'm talking to the US-Americans present in this thread. Obviously, the outrage is great, but still the USA cling to their "Oh, you want a gun? Sure, have three."-policy, which is just something I don't understand. I know that there's an article in the constitution that basically says something about the right to defend themselves, but I honestly don't think that they meant "Go and buy an Uzi and then some" with it.

*Mecha Cow* · 10-28-2008, 05:05 PM

Alright, I only asked because you didn't quote anyone and seemingly brought up gun rights out of nowhere.

For the record, I totally agree with you on the gun control issue, though it's probably best not to get into that subject here.

*Buslady* · 10-28-2008, 05:07 PM

This wasn't posted to have some political thing argued. So please don't get into it.

*Anarky* · 10-28-2008, 05:18 PM

I don't really want to get into the whole "LET'S SHOOT EVERYONE!" contra "Peace, man... it's totally the way, man..." thing. I just honestly don't understand why it is or should be legal to buy an Uzi. Or the whole "My God, this is horrible and should never happen! Gun control? Hell no!"-thinking.

10-28-2008, 09:52 AM	#1
Buslady WingsOfDarkness! Perkele! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In 7803... Posts: 4,366	What kinda moron lets his 8 year old son shoot an Uzi? http://news.aol.com/article/boy-8-ki...858x1200720002 Poor kid. The father should be chucked in jail for a long time. (and yes the gun club too!) __________________ Last edited by Buslady; 10-28-2008 at 05:00 PM.

10-28-2008, 10:44 AM	#3
CudleyCowlick Stone Warrior Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vermont, USA Posts: 721	Seriously messed up. I grew up around guns since my dad is a collector and gunsmith, and he was all about teaching me how to use them - but SAFELY and certianly not beyond my abilities. I was 15 before he let me use an automatic weapon (an AK-47). Even at that age the recoil surprised me but I knew what to expect and I had it well under control. For frick's sake, at 8 I still wasn't allowed to use anything bigger than a pellet gun! Guns don't kill people, people who let 8 year olds use Uzi's kill people. __________________ THE DARKNESS AGE IS RETURN!

10-28-2008, 11:37 AM	#4
Mecha Cow Gorgeous and modest too Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 3,699	Retarded, that's all I can say. What the hell did they expect would happen? The age to use a gun is low enough as it; don't give automatic weapons to kids even younger than that, for f*ck's sake. __________________

10-28-2008, 01:22 PM	#6
Anarky Outlaw Hero Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Tannhauser Gate Posts: 4,867	Just to counter the "Oh, that is so stupid"-circlejerk, I'm going to say this: Job well done. Sure, it cost one kid his life, which is a tragedy beyond understanding, but on the plus side, it took one gunslinging moron off the shooting ranges. And the fewer of those we have, the safer we all live. And by "We" I mean americans, because they're the only ones dumb enough to still think that if they don't have a fully automatic 80mm flak gun dismounted from a gunship under their beds, the british will invade in a heartbeat. __________________ Because it's... I dunno... brutal.

10-28-2008, 02:09 PM	#12
Deathknight Mad Scientist Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: One of the 972 rooms of the technodrome Posts: 1,995	God, that's terrible. What a horrible parent. __________________ Shredder: "Ninja hall of fame? Ha! Where's MY statue?!" -My Brother, the Bad Guy

10-28-2008, 09:59 AM	#2
愛 Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 7,449	Yeah, because the gun club plays no part in this blame game.

10-28-2008, 02:06 PM	#10
愛 Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 7,449	Again, this is why we can't have nice things.

10-28-2008, 02:08 PM	#11
GK Punk I'm your Devil Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,439	We've done a terrible job raising them, Ai.

10-28-2008, 03:54 PM	#15
Anarky Outlaw Hero Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Tannhauser Gate Posts: 4,867	So while you don't want dead kids, you're not in favour of, say, a bit stricter gun laws? You know, we have pretty lax gun-control over here too. As long as you've got no criminal record, you can get everything up to an army-grade assault-rifle. And that you get under an extended background check only, read you've had to be or still have to be in the military. Uzis? No chance. But you can get shotguns. I mean, seriously, as a sort of "I don't understand your culture"-question: What are the americans afraid of so that they have to be better armed than most countries' armies? Or what is the reasoning behind "We must have more guns! Bigger guns!" __________________ Because it's... I dunno... brutal.

10-28-2008, 04:13 PM	#16
Mecha Cow Gorgeous and modest too Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 3,699	Who are you talking to? __________________

10-28-2008, 04:24 PM	#17
Anarky Outlaw Hero Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Tannhauser Gate Posts: 4,867	Probably not the guy who's from the netherlands. I'm talking to the US-Americans present in this thread. Obviously, the outrage is great, but still the USA cling to their "Oh, you want a gun? Sure, have three."-policy, which is just something I don't understand. I know that there's an article in the constitution that basically says something about the right to defend themselves, but I honestly don't think that they meant "Go and buy an Uzi and then some" with it. __________________ Because it's... I dunno... brutal.

10-28-2008, 05:05 PM	#18
Mecha Cow Gorgeous and modest too Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 3,699	Alright, I only asked because you didn't quote anyone and seemingly brought up gun rights out of nowhere. For the record, I totally agree with you on the gun control issue, though it's probably best not to get into that subject here. __________________

10-28-2008, 05:07 PM	#19
Buslady WingsOfDarkness! Perkele! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In 7803... Posts: 4,366	This wasn't posted to have some political thing argued. So please don't get into it. __________________

10-28-2008, 05:18 PM	#20
Anarky Outlaw Hero Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Tannhauser Gate Posts: 4,867	I don't really want to get into the whole "LET'S SHOOT EVERYONE!" contra "Peace, man... it's totally the way, man..." thing. I just honestly don't understand why it is or should be legal to buy an Uzi. Or the whole "My God, this is horrible and should never happen! Gun control? Hell no!"-thinking. __________________ Because it's... I dunno... brutal.