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Old 12-17-2008, 01:54 AM   #21
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Guh... between my Surfer Leo breaking, Maddie Blaustein dying, and this... I'm having a frowny face overload... I'm going to go to bed and hope things make more sense in the morning....
Oh, also you may want to note that Playmates have taken the Global Mutant Missions figures off their site now as well. I really wanted that damn Lizard and Ape.
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Old 12-17-2008, 01:55 AM   #22
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Oh, also you may want to note that Playmates have taken the Global Mutant Missions figures off their site now as well. I really wanted that damn Lizard and Ape.
Well f*** them.

EDIT: They're still listed under the "TV Show" and "Ninja News" tabs.
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Old 12-17-2008, 02:01 AM   #23
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Playmates will be making other mirage characters.
Doesn't matter I won't be buying these now. I think Mirage/Playmates just lost a heck of a lot more respect from me for this than the respect they lost from continually making lousy toys/licensing. I'm not usually a complainer either but after seeing those awesome NECA figures and now we're not going to get them and they haven't even bothered to put out a press release or anything? I've been anticipating those figures for months and they left me to hang. That just... sucks. Not just for me but for everyone. I sure hope everyone pissed about this voices their opinion and lets Playmates/Mirage know what a**holes they're being.
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Old 12-17-2008, 02:01 AM   #24
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If Playmates is going to be making better figures that's alright with me. It's a bit late, but that's better than not at all.

However, if Playmates is responsible for the NECA figure situation...
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Old 12-17-2008, 02:19 AM   #25
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Okay, I agree with what's being said about Playmates and NECA, but I feel there isn't enough info yet. This does nothing but rise questions.

1) Does this toy have a supporting media? Cartoon, movie, game, comic (new non-Mirage, something like Archie), etc.

2) If so, what media and all media related questions.

3) If not, why are Playmates copying another (better) company and why the hell are Mirage letting them copy another company?

There's plenty more questions and I think of a new one every min. Really, nothing adds up without more info.
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Old 12-17-2008, 02:32 AM   #26
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Well f*** them.

EDIT: They're still listed under the "TV Show" and "Ninja News" tabs.
Yes but you can't click on them *besides leo*, they are also gone from the main list of toys.
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Doesn't matter I won't be buying these now. I think Mirage/Playmates just lost a heck of a lot more respect from me for this than the respect they lost from continually making lousy toys/licensing. I'm not usually a complainer either but after seeing those awesome NECA figures and now we're not going to get them and they haven't even bothered to put out a press release or anything? I've been anticipating those figures for months and they left me to hang. That just... sucks. Not just for me but for everyone. I sure hope everyone pissed about this voices their opinion and lets Playmates/Mirage know what a**holes they're being.
Mirage or well Gary and playmates are partially to blame because they didn't believe that Playmates making mirage based toys at the same time NECA is would effect the deal with NECA.
Honestly, I think NECA are acting like a bunch of babies and this hopefully will get resolved in Feb. at the NYC comicon.
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Okay, I agree with what's being said about Playmates and NECA, but I feel there isn't enough info yet. This does nothing but rise questions.

1) Does this toy have a supporting media? Cartoon, movie, game, comic (new non-Mirage, something like Archie), etc.

2) If so, what media and all media related questions.

3) If not, why are Playmates copying another (better) company and why the hell are Mirage letting them copy another company?

There's plenty more questions and I think of a new one every min. Really, nothing adds up without more info.
More info will come in time and most of it very soon.
Playmates & NECA should be working together on this line and sharing profits.
NECA has worked with a number of other mainstream companies and helped them make amazing products, so there's no excuse for Playmates not to jump all over this opportunity besides them and Gary being lazy and not wanting to do paper work.
and now to answer your questions.
1) No, as I've been saying the show is done after this and these toys are souly based on the mirage comics.
2)read answer to number 1
3)Because NECA did so well that Playmates now wanted to take the opportunity to cash in on the collectors market and didn't see any better time than the 25th anniversary.
Gary & Playmates both thought that this wouldn't effect the specilty and comic shop based NECA TMNT figures line because these will be for sale at mainstream shops like Target & Toys R Us, but as they are seing it has effected NECA in the form of them not communicating with Mirage at all.

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Old 12-17-2008, 03:07 AM   #27
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In the mean time I'm just keeping my fingers crossed that NECA still has the rights to comic TMNT. If Playmates messed up my chances in getting Shredder, the Foot, and the Foot Elite for THAT figure? I'll be mighty pissed.
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Well the cat's out of the bagm knew about this all for some time.
Playmates Shredder looked allot like NECA's until Peter saw it and said to beef it up.


Yes, & yes NECA is very upset with Mirage over this happening.

Playmates will be making other mirage characters.
And well prepair yourself to be pissed.

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IMO this is too little too late from Playmates.

Even though they blatantly gave us the finger when we all complained about the crap that are the Music Turtles, they finally decided to try to appease us with something closer to what we've been asking for (Mirage seems to be doing this a bit themselves, as Gary starts to realize he hole he's driven the entire company into).

But what is it exactly that we're getting? Ok, the picture isn't that great, but from what I can tell it really doesn't resemble anything in any of the comics. It stands upright, has more articulation, and a bit of a wash to the paint job, but I can't label it as being of any particular style.

This doesn't fill any of my needs. Unless better pictures reveal that there is a specific source of influence, I'm willing to say that I will not be buying these (assuming any stores are still carrying TMNT by the time they get released).

And if this is the reason all the NECA stuff is delayed, you can damn well bet I won't be buying this.
Agreed, in general.

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Well, I hinted at a guess I and murph both had as to why NECA isn't returning e-mails and calls to Mirage and pretty much flat out ignoring them to Ryan Brown who then said he knows it's a shame what playmates did to NECA in his blog.
It would seem perhaps Murph and I may be on the money with this one.
If it's true I swear I'm burning down Playmates head offices.
and agreed to you as well.

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Yes but you can't click on them *besides leo*, they are also gone from the main list of toys.

Mirage or well Gary and playmates are partially to blame because they didn't believe that Playmates making mirage based toys at the same time NECA is would effect the deal with NECA.
Honestly, I think NECA are acting like a bunch of babies and this hopefully will get resolved in Feb. at the NYC comicon.

More info will come in time and most of it very soon.
Playmates & NECA should be working together on this line and sharing profits.
NECA has worked with a number of other mainstream companies and helped them make amazing products, so there's no excuse for Playmates not to jump all over this opportunity besides them and Gary being lazy and not wanting to do paper work.
and now to answer your questions.
1) No, as I've been saying the show is done after this and these toys are souly based on the mirage comics.
2)read answer to number 1
3)Because NECA did so well that Playmates now wanted to take the opportunity to cash in on the collectors market and didn't see any better time than the 25th anniversary.
Gary & Playmates both thought that this wouldn't effect the specilty and comic shop based NECA TMNT figures line because these will be for sale at mainstream shops like Target & Toys R Us, but as they are seing it has effected NECA in the form of them not communicating with Mirage at all.

EDIT: post questions, i'll try and answer them the best I can.
I think NECA is overreacting, but I also think this was a bit of bad form, especially if the rest are as comic based as this looks. Maybe we'll luck out though, and they will calm down.




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In retrospect, I think someone should suggest pointing out the SUccess of DC Direct even in light of Mattel's Comics accurate figures to Neca. It might help.
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Old 12-17-2008, 08:55 AM   #28
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Honestly, I think NECA are acting like a bunch of babies and this hopefully will get resolved in Feb. at the NYC comicon.
This is interesting to me... because all this time I thought the delay would be due to Playmates finding a legal loophole or something and intentionally filibustering NECA.
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Old 12-17-2008, 09:09 AM   #29
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HAHAHA! I honestly love this! We know NOTHING, we get one add in a Nintendo magazine and everyone looses their $h!t over it!

I can DEFINITELY see why everyone is pissed! don't get me wrong by any means but personally! I am just so damn happy to be getting more TMNT toys. I really don't give a crap about where they came from or whos f'n up who's thing other than it looks like we will get another wave of some cool TMNT things. I have a funny feeling knock offs, repaints, or something stupid and ugly people here will buy them because deep down they know they love them!

I'd say either lets sign a petition, piss them off and demand they give us what we want. Or we see what comes and then argue about what they should have done!

mind you I am rather pissed that NECA has dropped the ball and I agree I think they are being babies about this if thats why they are holding back.

I am probably going to get flack for this....
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Old 12-17-2008, 10:25 AM   #30
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You know what happened? It seems that Good news and Bad news had a secret affair and spawned an unwanted bastard child named Confusing Mess. Now, poor little Confusie is wandering the streets looking for a home.


That said, YES, I would rather NECA keep going, and they really should have gotten Series 2 out sooner, so they're not entirely blameless here too.

I have to see these up close in Toyfare or something for me to make a decision. I probably will buy them, though... keep in mind, by "probably" it took me almost 2 years to complete the TMNT movie line turtles (JUST the turtles), I only have one minimutant, and I haven't started on the NECA TMNT line yet.
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Old 12-17-2008, 11:46 AM   #31
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What, you guys are ok with these?

http://i.toynewsi.com/g/index.php?mo...ze=600&start=0

Wow. They look more like the movie figures than the original figures. And there's no way they have the same quality as the NECA figures. If I was NECA I'd be pissed too. NECA shouldn't have to work with Playmates on this, Playmates wasn't doing a comic line. They have the new cartoon, oh wait they're not making toys for that. They have the old cartoon, oh wait they just want to reissue toys for that. **** Playmates, and Mirage for sideswiping NECA.
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Old 12-17-2008, 11:53 AM   #32
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Yeah, I guess Playmates just couldn't stand it that NECA made comic turtles. So now Playmates is making their own versions of comic turtles. Well, NECA's comic turtles look 100% better than those.

I might buy one though, probably Leo, just for the heck of it.

Now, what Playmates should do is make all new, articulated, 6" sculpts of characters from the original toon. That's probably not going to happen though....
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Old 12-17-2008, 11:57 AM   #33
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What, you guys are ok with these?

http://i.toynewsi.com/g/index.php?mo...ze=600&start=0

Wow. They look more like the movie figures than the original figures. And there's no way they have the same quality as the NECA figures. If I was NECA I'd be pissed too. NECA shouldn't have to work with Playmates on this, Playmates wasn't doing a comic line. They have the new cartoon, oh wait they're not making toys for that. They have the old cartoon, oh wait they just want to reissue toys for that. **** Playmates, and Mirage for sideswiping NECA.
Those actually remind me of the City of War designed Turtles. They're not even close to the level of NECA, though, so I'm not exactly elated with these. I want my mother f***ing wave 2. The weapons look horrible to boot.

Again: These aren't bad for Playmates, but they're miles away from NECA.
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HAHAHA! I honestly love this! We know NOTHING, we get one add in a Nintendo magazine and everyone looses their $h!t over it!

I can DEFINITELY see why everyone is pissed! don't get me wrong by any means but personally! I am just so damn happy to be getting more TMNT toys. I really don't give a crap about where they came from or whos f'n up who's thing other than it looks like we will get another wave of some cool TMNT things. I have a funny feeling knock offs, repaints, or something stupid and ugly people here will buy them because deep down they know they love them!

I'd say either lets sign a petition, piss them off and demand they give us what we want. Or we see what comes and then argue about what they should have done!

mind you I am rather pissed that NECA has dropped the ball and I agree I think they are being babies about this if thats why they are holding back.

I am probably going to get flack for this....


I totally agree. Even if it's not what we want or expect in the TMNT, we are still getting products out. The animated series is almost done, and if we complain and complain, other TMNT related things might end as well.

True fans will love every TMNT product out there, no matter what. These are just my two cents, but almost look on the positive side guys.
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Old 12-17-2008, 12:12 PM   #35
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What total ********. True fans would like something new because I do. True fans will like anything given to them because they're sheep. Do you even buy toys? Did you buy the NECA stuff? Did you see series 2 with Shredder, Foot/Elite, April, Mousers, and even Utroms?! Did you see the pictures of the new figures? They're ridiculous. Here's an idea, why didn't Playmates make proper toys of the last cartoon, or use this "highly articulated super detailed but really not" design for an old cartoon line instead of lazily reissuing the original figures? I have a feeling we'd all be happy if NECA continued with the comic stuff and Playmates used this idea for a brand new original cartoon line. Instead they're giving us crap and taking away the good stuff.

Yeah true fan my ass.
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Old 12-17-2008, 12:12 PM   #36
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True fans will love every TMNT product out there, no matter what. These are just my two cents, but almost look on the positive side guys.
No, true fans will snub absolute $#!+. Don't tell me you loved "We Wish You Turtle Christmas" or the plot to "Coming Out of Our Shells" just because it had the TMNT in it.
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Old 12-17-2008, 12:23 PM   #37
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Those are nice I guess, but it's too little, too late. I'll stick with my NECAs.
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Old 12-17-2008, 12:28 PM   #38
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It's times like this that I wish Peter would just sell his interest in the TMNT to someone who gives a f***....
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Well, I'll buy any Turtle figure I'm interested in regardless.

It would be a shame to see NECA's line cancelled, but if these Playmates figures are good I'd buy them anyway.

I'm not going to deny myself a good figure just because of some dumb crap going on between Mirage, Playmates and Neca.
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Well, I'll buy any Turtle figure I'm interested in regardless.

It would be a shame to see NECA's line cancelled, but if these Playmates figures are good I'd buy them anyway.

I'm not going to deny myself a good figure just because of some dumb crap going on between Mirage, Playmates and Neca.
I agree, but I'd like to reiterate if they end up sucking complete dong, I'm not going to buy them because they're "ZOMG TURTLES!"

(This was not directed at you, it's just an addendum).
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